Advanced Nutrients Feeds ? can enyone help here

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az2000

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Chuck, why can't AN users discuss their nutrients? Why do AN threads always have to turn into a circus? You guys created a "why I hate AN" thread. Why isn't that enough?

You joined a community which encompasses a variety of practices, philosophies, etc. You guys aren't just disagreeing, you're denying the existence of this particular segment.

When that's pointed out, you get all entitlement about it, bullying people that they shouldn't expect that the TOS exists for their benefit as well as yours.

But, I agree. It's up to AN users to report these things as they start. (I fault @BROBIE for contributing to the very predictable spin-out of AN threads. I.e., doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome ...). I don't use AN. There's no reason for me to care about it more than they do.

It's just disturbing to see AN threads not allowed to exist. (And then you imply that the forum and its owners/moderators are to be opposed. "Us versus them.").
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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az2000 said:
Chuck, why can't AN users discuss their nutrients? Why do AN threads always have to turn into a circus? You guys created a "why I hate AN" thread. Why isn't that enough?

You joined a community which encompasses a variety of practices, philosophies, etc. You guys aren't just disagreeing, you're denying the existence of this particular segment.

When that's pointed out, you get all entitlement about it, bullying people that they shouldn't expect that the TOS exists for their benefit as well as yours.

But, I agree. It's up to AN users to report these things as they start. (I fault @BROBIE for contributing to the very predictable spin-out of AN threads. I.e., doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome ...). I don't use AN. There's no reason for me to care about it more than they do.

It's just disturbing to see AN threads not allowed to exist. (And then you imply that the forum and its owners/moderators are to be opposed. "Us versus them.").
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please show me where I spun this thread into picking on AN narc.

then show me where I created ANY AN thread
 
GroErr

GroErr

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CheeseKing said:
Sup y'all i reacently purchased AN Micro , Grow, Bloom i got deliverd part a part b grow , and part a part b bloom , im one week into flower what feeds of them will i use and how many ML of feeds into my 10 L bucket ? and is ther other feeds i could be using to get higher yeilds i used to use Canna A and B with Green Fuse Bloom throughout my flowering cycle and got good return but advance seems to be the way forward with a lot of people so im going to use advanced.... thanks if yous get back guys !
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I was going to just pass but will answer your original question and ignore all the AN bashing.

My formula, I use AN A&B Grow and A&B Bloom as a supplement to a mix of 50% Pro-Mix and 50% Triple Mix from clone/seed and through to flowering. I've tried a bunch of different things and yes, some strains will behave differently and you'll eventually need to learn to read the plants. But these numbers carry through 90% of the strains/phenos I run. The odd strain or pheno needs a bit more or less of one nutrient or another.

Clones:
Once they've been transferred from my cloner (rooted) I give them a good soaking of just water. I let it dry out, then feed grow @300ppm (that's 30ml total A&B in a 10L container) for a week or two depending on how they're responding. After 2 feedings I give them water-only, then repeat as needed. Some strains get early cal-mag defs, I don't use cal-mag, I simply give them more A than B for a week or two and then back to 50/50 A&B. e.g. If I see a def I go 20ml A/10ml B to get my 300 ppm.

Seedlings:
Water-Only 2-3 times, letting them dry well in between. Then see clones above.

Vegging:
Once they're established and usually go into a 1gal pot. I feed them @400 ppm for 2-3 weeks EVRY OTHER WATERING, just water in between. Beyond 3 weeks, if I continue to veg I go to 500 ppm every other watering.

Flowering:
For the first 2 weeks, I mix 50/50 Grow & Bloom @600 ppm
After that I use 100% Bloom, then FEED-FEED-WATER and repeat that cycle throughout flowering
For the last 2-3 waterings which is 6-10 days I give them water only

The results are repeatable and work well 90% of the time with almost any strain

Here's the last batch which I'm just starting to trim, Day 50 at the front, Day 7 at the back:
All-Day50-Day7-1.JPG

Here's the current batch (Day 20/Day 6, 2 batches) in case there are any doubters as to whether it's consistent/repeatable:
All-Day20-Day6-1.JPG
 
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az2000

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BROBIE said:
I'm insane !!!
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The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. :)

Seriously, don't sink to their level. It's so obvious how they bait every AN thread, and it turns out the same way. And then they claim they had nothing but good intentions and they were drug into hijacking and flaming because *you* guys argued with them.

Just report it when it starts. Rise to a higher level. Don't give them an excuse to participate at the level they want to participate.

It doesn't matter to me. I think AN is expensive and gimmicky. But, everyone has different tastes. You guys should be able to discuss it without being heckled (or provoked into flame fests).
 
budman111

budman111

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GroErr said:
I was going to just pass but will answer your original question and ignore all the AN bashing.

My formula, I use AN A&B Grow and A&B Bloom as a supplement to a mix of 50% Pro-Mix and 50% Triple Mix from clone/seed and through to flowering. I've tried a bunch of different things and yes, some strains will behave differently and you'll eventually need to learn to read the plants. But these numbers carry through 90% of the strains/phenos I run. The odd strain or pheno needs a bit more or less of one nutrient or another.

Clones:
Once they've been transferred from my cloner (rooted) I give them a good soaking of just water. I let it dry out, then feed grow @300ppm (that's 30ml total A&B in a 10L container) for a week or two depending on how they're responding. After 2 feedings I give them water-only, then repeat as needed. Some strains get early cal-mag defs, I don't use cal-mag, I simply give them more A than B for a week or two and then back to 50/50 A&B. e.g. If I see a def I go 20ml A/10ml B to get my 300 ppm.

Seedlings:
Water-Only 2-3 times, letting them dry well in between. Then see clones above.

Vegging:
Once they're established and usually go into a 1gal pot. I feed them @400 ppm for 2-3 weeks EVRY OTHER WATERING, just water in between. Beyond 3 weeks, if I continue to veg I go to 500 ppm every other watering.

Flowering:
For the first 2 weeks, I mix 50/50 Grow & Bloom @600 ppm
After that I use 100% Bloom, then FEED-FEED-WATER and repeat that cycle throughout flowering
For the last 2-3 waterings which is 6-10 days I give them water only

The results are repeatable and work well 90% of the time with almost any strain

Here's the last batch which I'm just starting to trim, Day 50 at the front, Day 7 at the back:
View attachment 3373504

Here's the current batch (Day 20/Day 6, 2 batches) in case there are any doubters as to whether it's consistent/repeatable:
View attachment 3373505
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Someone has been defoliating...:D
 
budman111

budman111

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GroErr said:
I'll do a bit here & there if they're too dense, nothing crazy but I tend to bring them in short/stocky/dense (veg w/LED's) so depending on how dense they are they get a mild haircut during stretch. Lets not start "discussing" that subject - lol ;)
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I got LED too and a mild prune can be necessary with the tight nodes that LED bring, but yep, that's another thread totally lol
 
BROBIE

BROBIE

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az2000 said:
I think AN is expensive and gimmicky. But, everyone has different tastes. You guys should be able to discuss it without being heckled (or provoked into flame fests).
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heheheheheheheh - notice the little one is trying to be accepted ----

A shmoke und a pancake. You know, a flapjack und a shigarette? No? Shigar und a waffle? No? Pipe und a crepe? No? Bong und a blintz? No? Well, then there ish no pleashing you.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

Well-Known Member
az2000 said:
The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. :)

Seriously, don't sink to their level. It's so obvious how they bait every AN thread, and it turns out the same way. And then they claim they had nothing but good intentions and they were drug into hijacking and flaming because *you* guys argued with them.

Just report it when it starts. Rise to a higher level. Don't give them an excuse to participate at the level they want to participate.

It doesn't matter to me. I think AN is expensive and gimmicky. But, everyone has different tastes. You guys should be able to discuss it without being heckled (or provoked into flame fests).
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yes it does, why you keep coming back trying to recruit more NARCS, Didn't your parents teach you not to tattle like a little bitch. I never baited anyone. Still waiting for you to show where I said anything negative about AN in this thread.
 
GroErr

GroErr

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budman111 said:
I got LED too and a mild prune can be necessary with the tight nodes that LED bring, but yep, that's another thread totally lol
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Yeah, find the same thing with LED's for veg, very tight nodes. It's a choice between potential mold or PM, or defoliate a bit for some strains. Some like the Blue Pyramids I'm running are fine on their own as they spread out and have very few leaves to begin with. But some are so dense/tight it's an invitation for mold or PM to form, in that case some light defoliation is the lesser of the two evils.
 
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buddy69

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CheeseKing said:
why say its backwards and not even telling me why lol ? i wouldnt spend money on rhino skin over drive enything like that enyways just grow and bloon jungle juice and green fuse bloom im using seems to be working fine
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There is nothing wrong with overdrive. Its awesome I use armour si instead of rhino skin and hi brix instead of bud candy plant success instead of voodoo juice bud I do use sensi grow A&B and bloom A&B .as base nute.bud igniter.big bud ,nirvana.bud factor X sensizyme for bloom and quality and yield is amazing
 
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