(Advanced Nutrients) I’m using almost all of their products and loving the results just trying to figur out why people on here hate AN so much

VincenzioVonHook

VincenzioVonHook

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T-ronik said:
Probably because they just got taken for a sucker in the grow shop and forked out $$$$ for snake oil. So now they need tell everybody how much better their nutes are and justify the money they just pissed away
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Yep, I thought I was going over the top using Canna base nutes (Vega and Flores) and Cannazym...when I started added zym I thought I was a gluttonous high roller....and then I looked at what Canna expects you to run. Was always wondering why my ppm was so much less than they claim until I realised they want you to use 5ml/l base nutes, 2.5ml/L zym, 2-4ml/l of boost, 1.5ml/l of pk boost and 1.5ml/l of rhizotonic three to seven times a week to get the 1100ppm for flower.

I then saw lines that had 12-15 products and decided to remove myself from the equation all together. Sounds like a load of crap to me.
 
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VincenzioVonHook said:
Yep, I thought I was going over the top using Canna base nutes (Vega and Flores) and Cannazym...when I started added zym I thought I was a gluttonous high roller....and then I looked at what Canna expects you to run. Was always wondering why my ppm was so much less than they claim until I realised they want you to use 5ml/l base nutes, 2.5ml/L zym, 2-4ml/l of boost, 1.5ml/l of pk boost and 1.5ml/l of rhizotonic three to seven times a week to get the 1100ppm for flower.

I then saw lines that had 12-15 products and decided to remove myself from the equation all together. Sounds like a load of crap to me.
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I'd like to see any idiot that works at Canna run that feed chart and then stick photos of the finished plant on their website.
 
VincenzioVonHook

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I love watching my housemate mix up his potions. Rhizofuel, Procal, Cannazym, sensei bloom, cannaboost, molasses, and guano phosphorus. Looks like a bloody mad scientist trying to mix up a feed...by the time he's done the pH is like 4. Has to then add a shit ton of pH up. After all that it's only 1000ppm, and there is no way a basic being can figure out what the NPK of the slurry he has just fed his plants.
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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VincenzioVonHook said:
I just found it funny how upset everyone gets everytime some deluded nutrient fanboy comes in trying to sell something like the bible..
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Some of us don't want new growers to be misinformed and hope they can avoid mistakes some of us made when we started.

I made plenty of mistakes when I first started, from buying a grow kit to listening to YouTube growers as a base of knowledge. Thankfully I continued to read a TON, mostly on here and gained some real truthful information. There was still a bunch of wrong information on here that I had to figure out how to filter through.
 
Psyphish

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I use AN's pH-perfect Sensi as base nutrients, I add some Bud Factor X and Nirvana in flower for the chitosan and Triacontanol. The most common dry nutrients aren't available in Finland and I have better results with AN than GHE/Terra Aquatica. Not having to think about pH is just a plus.

My tomatoes and peppers liked Megacrop though, it's too bad Brexit prevents me from buying more.
 
jondamon

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VincenzioVonHook said:
I love watching my housemate mix up his potions. Rhizofuel, Procal, Cannazym, sensei bloom, cannaboost, molasses, and guano phosphorus. Looks like a bloody mad scientist trying to mix up a feed...by the time he's done the pH is like 4. Has to then add a shit ton of pH up. After all that it's only 1000ppm, and there is no way a basic being can figure out what the NPK of the slurry he has just fed his plants.
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He will need to be careful as nutrients reaching pH ranges of 4 or below and 8 and above can find that precipitates can fall out of suspension due to the pH of the solution and you can get sediment of unusable nutrient ions that fall out of suspension.
 
VincenzioVonHook

VincenzioVonHook

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twentyeight.threefive said:
Some of us don't want new growers to be misinformed and hope they can avoid mistakes some of us made when we started.

I made plenty of mistakes when I first started, from buying a grow kit to listening to YouTube growers as a base of knowledge. Thankfully I continued to read a TON, mostly on here and gained some real truthful information. There was still a bunch of wrong information on here that I had to figure out how to filter through.
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You would have made far less mistakes of you didn't research at all. These plants literally grow in the wild...i swear most mistakes are the result of trying to hard and loving too much. Good.intentions for sure.
jondamon said:
He will need to be careful as nutrients reaching pH ranges of 4 or below and 8 and above can find that precipitates can fall out of suspension due to the pH of the solution and you can get sediment of unusable nutrient ions that fall out of suspension.
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He has to flush his plants every week lol...so many salts build up, but he still believes he needs all that in every watering...it's a weekly cycle of flushing with plain water, and then loading it with everything under the sun until the runoff is 2500ppm after a few days, then it's rinse and repeat...literally. When he flushes once a week he's always like "I'm just Gunna give it base nutes for a few days" and within an hour or two I see him adding something...
 
jondamon

jondamon

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VincenzioVonHook said:
You would have made far less mistakes of you didn't research at all. These plants literally grow in the wild...i swear most mistakes are the result of trying to hard and loving too much. Good.intentions for sure.

He has to flush his plants every week lol...so many salts build up, but he still believes he needs all that in every watering...it's a weekly cycle of flushing with plain water, and then loading it with everything under the sun until the runoff is 2500ppm after a few days, then it's rinse and repeat...literally. When he flushes once a week he's always like "I'm just Gunna give it base nutes for a few days" and within an hour or two I see him adding something...
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And round and round it goes lol.

As for your earlier comment to 2835 don’t forget in nature there is natural organic nutrients in the earth you planted in that has been sustaining life for millennia.

indoors we have to simulate every aspect.
 
VincenzioVonHook

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jondamon said:
And round and round it goes lol.

As for your earlier comment to 2835 don’t forget in nature there is natural organic nutrients in the earth you planted in that has been sustaining life for millennia.

indoors we have to simulate every aspect.
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It's definately easier to grow outside feeding wise. On the "less research" part I was mainly using my own experience overcomplicating through excessive research. The first two years outdoors I did really well doing nothing and planting straight into dirt, and the third year i started researching different techniques, did proper seeding and transplanting, defoliation, top dressing nutirents at peoples advice and ended up with the worst crop in three years lol. Spent all this time and money overthinking it to end up with worse plants lol.

I have suffered the over complicating bug myself haha and I swear its the plague. I didn't mean any offence to him at all. It's been the same for most of my mates indoors as well. First grow goes pretty well and then second grow they over complicate it and run into problems.
 
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jondamon

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VincenzioVonHook said:
It's definately easier to grow outside feeding wise. On the "less research" part I was mainly using my own experience overcomplicating through excessive research. The first two years outdoors I did really well doing nothing and planting straight into dirt, and the third year i started researching different techniques, did proper seeding and transplanting, defoliation, top dressing nutirents at peoples advice and ended up with the worst crop in three years lol. Spent all this time and money overthinking it to end up with worse plants lol.

I have suffered the over complicating bug myself haha and I swear its the plague. I didn't mean any offence to him at all. It's been the same for most of my mates indoors as well. First grow goes pretty well and then second grow they over complicate it and run into problems.
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I think we’ve all suffered that. Lol.

Personally I read about indoor growing rather than cannabis growing.

I found the better information when I was learning about tomatoes grown using HID and the training techniques used by commercial hydroponic tomato growers to achieve the best for their lighting footprints.
 
bk78

bk78

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VincenzioVonHook said:
I dont understand why you guys all go cult like when it comes to nutrient lines. I constantly see posts here and it's basically "I have an obsession with said nutirents line and want to defend it vigorously, everyone else with a different brand bias please attack me so we can argue about absolute nonsense forever"

To simplify even more, these threads go straight to "my dicks bigger than yours, here's a photo to prove it". Bunch of bloody children.

Just use what your happy with and stop worrying about what makes others happy, and why they think differently.

Actually I shouldn't complain. It's hilarious to see how snide people get the second these threads start and someone posts a picture of their plant.
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Dude came on here swinging his little baby dick around

use whatever you want to use for nutes

don’t come on here saying we’re poor because we can’t afford 16 bottles of salt water

Don’t come on here saying because of said 16 bottles of salt water your product will be better

he’s gone now so let’s let this trash post die in the RIU abyss
 
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I'm getting over salt fed growing all together. These days there's growers out there throwing down big healthy dank plants with super soils and water only. Let the microbes do the work for you. It's another learning curve to conquer but who wouldn't want to ditch all the nutes and replace it with just plain water. Plus once you build the soil you just keep running it. Very little ongoing cost
 
bk78

bk78

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T-ronik said:
I'm getting over salt fed growing all together. These days there's growers out there throwing down big healthy dank plants with super soils and water only. Let the microbes do the work for you. It's another learning curve to conquer but who wouldn't want to ditch all the nutes and replace it with just plain water. Plus once you build the soil you just keep running it. Very little ongoing cost
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Why would I want slow growth?
 
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