Advanced Nutrients "Kushie Kush" additive
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I swear there is more haters of advanced than people that like their product lol. Anyway i would like to say i have my grow dialed in after years of trial and error . My enviroment produces consistently and i only grow purple kush. It is a lighter yeilder but i have managed to get her tweaked in to produce a zip in a sog style which i am very happy with. I use and have been using the canna coco nutrient line in a coco only medium. I use liuid karma, sm-90, bud candy, pk 13-14, kushy kush, overdrive, silica. This is my secong grow using kushie kush and i notice a much more potent smell, gooey sticky resinous buds and sugar caked leaves like never before. I also notice a yeild increase but its not dramatic. One thing i should mention is if you decide to use it i recommend increasing the amount in the begining of flower and lowering your base nutes for about a week ( in a hydro set up) youll notice a very potent smell right after feeding. This is a quality product.
hooked.on.ponics
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Actually, that guy rants and raves about AN like it's his job. Considering how much time he spends EVERY day talking shit about AN it might actually be his job.
Wow, that's pretty petty. I guess if you can't counter what a guy says you just go straight to playground insults.
But I'm guessing you're rubber and I'm glue... right?
homebrewer
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This product is garbage. Plant nutrition is about balance as you cannot supply any one element in excess without locking out other competing elements. Look at the NPK ratios and ingredients and you can tell that this product will do nothing for resin production and could possibly lead to nitrogen, magnesium and calcium deficiencies. A 1-3-8 NPK is just plain wack. I love DynaGro but if they made something that out of balance, I'd be saying the same thing.
Learn to read the labels then you can decide whether a product is worth buying.
http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/kushie_kush/kushie_kush_faq_nutrient_facts.php
I do not understand all of the AN hatter, Most people have never used it. So how can you know it sucks! I believe people just dont have the money to use it, so they just hate cuz thats all they can do. Homebrewer I was always told that you needed more P and K during flower. Hens the p/k bloom nutes...I highly doubt that AN would put out a nute without testing it, and maybe that is the reason that they are coming out with another formula
homebrewer
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Do you need to actually drive a 4 cylinder, naturally aspirated, 5000 pound car in order to know it's going to be slow?
Fertilizers are the same way. An NPK ratio of 1-3-8 could work well if you were matching it up with base nutes that had a 4-9-0 NPK value. I highly doubt even AN would offer those base nute values but if they did, you can bet your @ss it would have a cool looking label with an even better name
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MrHowardMarks
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Sup... Havent been on here in awhile, was tryin to find some info on Kushie Kush, ya know the topic... LOL
Anyway.... if anyone actually reads this....
Advanced Nutrients make some great beneficial bacteria products...
If you dont understand the concept.... You add a crap load of sugars to the media to feed the beneficals that breaks down to feed the plant... Like a fatass kid in a candy store.
Im currently using Piranha, Tarantula, and VooDoo Juice... Feeding that is a mixture of Botanicare Sweet, AN Bud Candy, AN Carbo Load, Molasses, and Agave nectar...
To say the least the buds swell to twice as big as you use to grow with just adding these things.
----So any info on Kushie Kush as a product, what is in it?
I used to use a dedicated Advanced 2+ line, but have taped off that line, a lot of the products are overpriced hype.... Guessing this is too?
Anyway.... if anyone actually reads this....
Advanced Nutrients make some great beneficial bacteria products...
If you dont understand the concept.... You add a crap load of sugars to the media to feed the beneficals that breaks down to feed the plant... Like a fatass kid in a candy store.
Im currently using Piranha, Tarantula, and VooDoo Juice... Feeding that is a mixture of Botanicare Sweet, AN Bud Candy, AN Carbo Load, Molasses, and Agave nectar...
To say the least the buds swell to twice as big as you use to grow with just adding these things.
----So any info on Kushie Kush as a product, what is in it?
I used to use a dedicated Advanced 2+ line, but have taped off that line, a lot of the products are overpriced hype.... Guessing this is too?
aeroman
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That doesn't even make much sense. It's not just a question of the ratio (you at least got that right rather than just looking at the number itself). It's a question of the bio-availability of the nutrients that make it up. You could theoretically have a 100-0-0 fertilizer that contained absolutely nothing plants could use. Plants can't use every form of nitrogen (or any other nutrient for that matter.)Do you need to actually drive a 4 cylinder, naturally aspirated, 5000 pound car in order to know it's going to be slow?
Fertilizers are the same way. An NPK ratio of 1-3-8 could work well if you were matching it up with base nutes that had a 4-9-0 NPK value. I highly doubt even AN would offer those base nute values but if they did, you can bet your @ss it would have a cool looking label with an even better name
And there's a range of bio-availability with completely useless on one end and really, really useful on the other and most things fall somewhere in the middle.
So even if two things have exactly the same NPK it doesn't mean they're the same fertilizer. It doesn't even mean they're even close to being similar.
homebrewer
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Actually it is about the ratio. If you're feeding with a fertilizer like that, you'll affect the uptake of potassium and calcium.
Given the fact that nearly all growers burn their garden up using too much fertilizer, I don't think your 'bio-availability' concept is a concern for anyone using water soluble salts.
aeroman
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I didn't say ratio wasn't important. I said it wasn't the only thing to consider. If you actually read (and understand) what I wrote you'd realize that what I'm saying is that it's possible to create a fertilizer that looks good on paper, and tests at any particular NPK without actually being useful to a plant at that ratio. You can, for example, create a solution high in Nitrogen that provides absolutely no Nitrogen to plants. A good example is urine. It's high in Nitrogen but plants can't absorb it in the form present in urine. It's useful for plants in soil because the soil web breaks it down into useful forms, but that doesn't happen in hydroponics.
And a lot of hydroponic companies use urea-based sources for their Nitrogen.
True, that does happen. But don't forget that it's unlikely anyone built a fertilizer with identical levels of bio-availability (not my concept, btw) across all the nutrients. The plants get burnt but may simultaneously be getting insufficient levels of another nutrient - not counting lock-outs.
Also, the less available the nutrients are the more work the plants have to do to absorb any, meaning less energy available for growth.
Finally, the more nutrients there are left in solution because the plants can't absorb them, the more are going back into the environment with every reservoir change. Not everyone is environmentally conscious about how they dispose of old nutrient solution. The more bio-available the nutrients are the less gets wasted and the less impact it has on the environment.
cary schellie
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u young clowns go spend mommas money on a.n., all these guys are saying its all about n-p-k ratio not the picture on the bottle or the name. veg state high N low P low K. bloom low N high P and medium K. Avanced n. and other companies are out to make money the more differnet products they can sell people the better
HungryMan420
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I like Kushie kush It works wonders!! just my opinion
squarepush3r
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max316420
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Do You really expect anyone to believe that???