Advanced Nutrients Sensi Bloom A&B Help

Im using advanced nutrients sensi grow and bloom im going to switch to bloom in a day or two wanted to see if some one could help me out with a feeding chart i looked on advanced site and its really crapy and does not have all the info i need im using
Sensi Bloom A&B
Big Bud
Bud Candy
B52
Bud Blood
Final Phase
Bush Master
OverDrive
Cha Ching
Phosphoload
Bat GuanO Mexican
and i mite pick up some
Nirvana
Rhino Skin
Bud Ignitor
VooDoo Juice
if you think i should add something or not use something all input welcome thank you

looks like overkill

WAY to much stuff bro! You should never need anymore than 2-4 additives in flower; and only that many when you actually know what you are doing. additives are meant to compliment the base nute and any issues or shortcomings it may have in relation to the strain. my suggestion would be to run you plants on just the sensi 2 part. then try out some of the additives on seperate plants or seperate grows and see how they affect your plants. by experimenting you will learn how your plants react to certain additives and which ones work well together.

kbolden50 said:

Im using advanced nutrients sensi grow and bloom im going to switch to bloom in a day or two wanted to see if some one could help me out with a feeding chart i looked on advanced site and its really crapy and does not have all the info i need im using
Sensi Bloom A&B
Big Bud
Bud Candy
B52
Bud Blood
Final Phase
Bush Master
OverDrive
Cha Ching
Phosphoload
Bat GuanO Mexican
and i mite pick up some
Nirvana
Rhino Skin
Bud Ignitor
VooDoo Juice
if you think i should add something or not use something all input welcome thank you

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Something to add? Is there anything left to add?

Lol I shoulda started a nute company and specialized in voddoo and magic so people buy my stuff.

BigBuddahCheese said:

Lol I shoulda started a nute company and specialized in voddoo and magic so people buy my stuff.

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I'm telling you! Ever heard of Soapy Smith? Gold rush, Alaska, scams?

You don't give us a clue to your experience level or whether you're familiar with any of these products already but your question suggests you're pretty new to growing.
So I'll just start from that perspective. Let's have a look at your list:

kbolden50 said:

Sensi Bloom A&B
Big Bud
Bud Candy
B52
Bud Blood
Final Phase
Bush Master
OverDrive
Cha Ching
Phosphoload
Bat GuanO Mexican

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Okay, the Sensi Bloom, Big Bud, B-52 and Overdrive are all part of the Hobbyist grower bundle so I would consider that good for starting out. Voodoo Juice is also in that bundle but if you don't already have it there's no sense in spending more money just to get it. You already have more bottles than you need to just to grow and your question suggests you need a lot more experience before you start adding a lot of products.

The Bud Candy and Final Phase are nice. I'd recommend to just keep the Bud Candy on the shelf for now, wait for the next grow or the one after that to add it. For now just get comfortable growing.

You never said what method of growing you're using, but since you've got Guano on your list I hope it's soil. Otherwise that's pretty much useless unless you want to get into making teas, which again isn't really beginner level stuff for most people.

kbolden50 said:

and i mite pick up some...

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Just don't.

Don't.

Learn to grow first and by that I don't mean to say you don't know what you're doing, simply that you don't have enough experience to have the confidence needed to not ask this question on the forum. Build some experience. Build some confidence. Start simply, develop from there - don't try to start at a high level of complexity because that's a recipe for problems you won't be ready to face. Lots of growers try to start really complicated and end up discouraged and quitting before they really have a chance to learn anything.

yes it is soil drip system and i want to know if some of the nutrients do the same thing and i asked for a feeding chart i have growin before and got over 1/2 a pound off 6 plants indoor tallest one like 6.5ft smallest like 5.4ft under one 1000w so i think i know what im doing some what not saying i cant be better there is alway room for improvement i want to no why does everyone say its over kill how about you say what you think is over kill and why is it over kill i was looking for some nutrients info like around when do you use them how much in soil i should have said soil in the 1st place each different nutrient has its job inless they have the samething in them right or no thanks for the replys

sensei a &b some guano or worm casting in bottom of pot wouldnt be bad.. and big bud. fucking scrap the rest.

hotrodharley said:

Something to add? Is there anything left to add?

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lol too funny!

kbolden50 said:

yes it is soil drip system and i want to know if some of the nutrients do the same thing and i asked for a feeding chart i have growin before and got over 1/2 a pound off 6 plants indoor tallest one like 6.5ft smallest like 5.4ft under one 1000w so i think i know what im doing some what not saying i cant be better there is alway room for improvement i want to no why does everyone say its over kill how about you say what you think is over kill and why is it over kill i was looking for some nutrients info like around when do you use them how much in soil i should have said soil in the 1st place each different nutrient has its job inless they have the samething in them right or no thanks for the replys

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i've got some time to kill so i'll take a shot at this one.

first off; people are giving you good advice; you are just to stubborn to see it. you come in here listing 15 additives of which the majority are the same 3 things. who in their right mind would even think of using 15 additives? it would cost you more to grow the shit than it would be to buy it. 15 ADDITIVES!!!???!!! sorry, but i'm literally rolling on the floor. anyone with a basic (using that term very loosely) growing knowledge would know that isn't right. common sense should tell you that's not right. a little research would tell you that's not right. if you don't know this then you have never grown before. if common sense doesn't tell you that is way to many additives then you probably need to just keep buying your weed or find another "get rich quick" scam.

now to the fun part. i love it when guys pull grow numbers out of their assholes. you had 6 plants that were 6' tall on average and they were all under a 1000w light? and you got 8 ounces of bud? please tell me that's not total. cause the way you worded it; kinda sounds like you got 8oz. total. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt though and say you got 8 per plant. so you are bragging about pulling 8oz. off a 6' tall plant? come on man...i get 6 ounces off a 3'-4' tall plant. and how in the hell are you fitting 6 plants that are 6' tall under a 1000w light? not possible. you growing 1 cola and that's it?

there really was no reason to get all butthurt. and then to lie about your previous grows just to try and be cool? come on dude...get real. you do realize this is an mj forum? people gonna read through your bullshit pretty quickly here. i mean, it took me 10 seconds to spot it. as soon as i read the first paragraph and say the 15 additives you had listed.

kbolden50 said:

Im using advanced nutrients sensi grow and bloom im going to switch to bloom in a day or two wanted to see if some one could help me out with a feeding chart i looked on advanced site and its really crapy and does not have all the info i need im using
Sensi Bloom A&B
Big Bud
Bud Candy
B52
Bud Blood
Final Phase
Bush Master
OverDrive
Cha Ching
Phosphoload
Bat GuanO Mexican
and i mite pick up some
Nirvana
Rhino Skin
Bud Ignitor
VooDoo Juice
if you think i should add something or not use something all input welcome thank you

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Yes, you have a little of everything in there and some dupicates.

Overdrive, and cha ching are in the same ball park. Pick one, not both.

Phospho, bushmaster are the same thing basically. Bud Blood is not the same but it tries to do the same sort of thing.. kind of . Pick one or drop them all. Bud Ignitor is in the same ball park also.

Mexican is high N so you might not go with much grow when you use that.

Don't buy anything else. You have more then enough to get a grow out to see where you want to go next.

Just out of curiosity how did you end up with all this stuff?

kbolden50 said:

yes it is soil drip system and i want to know if some of the nutrients do the same thing and i asked for a feeding chart i have growin before and got over 1/2 a pound off 6 plants indoor tallest one like 6.5ft smallest like 5.4ft under one 1000w so i think i know what im doing some what not saying i cant be better there is alway room for improvement i want to no why does everyone say its over kill how about you say what you think is over kill and why is it over kill i was looking for some nutrients info like around when do you use them how much in soil i should have said soil in the 1st place each different nutrient has its job inless they have the samething in them right or no thanks for the replys

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For soil u need even less IMO, somebody soaked you at the nute store $$$$, but that's ok your starting out and mistakes are expected.. You wont find many AN (advanced nutrients) fans here including myself. If i were you i'd go small hydro and use them on that system, soil isn't going to need much tampering with i don't think but I don't do soil except for mothers. If your growing soil why didn't you go with worm castings, Bat Guanno ect ? If you go hydro pm me and I'll get you setup, I tried AN (worked good) in hydro and quickly went to mixing my own. BTW can anyone send me an analysis of AN Sensi Bloom A/B that is accurate, I remember Fatman stating the percentages they put on their label is not what is in the bottle. does anyone have his analysis? If so i'd really appreciate it.

AN parts out so much of what the plants really need, look at most of those additives (that cost a fortune) any you will see additional potassium, that should have been added to the base A B. Your paying out the arse for verry little besides water in those bottles. AN is doing what everyone else is 3-1-2 to 3-1-4 NPK plus micro nutrients, only difference is you have to buy way more jugs of water to get the full amount of nutrients. What is in your soil to begin with? hydro you know exactly what you start with and that is 0 or near 0 ppm RO. That line would do best on Hydro IMO, just cost you a lot more. Rear up on some AN threads here, particularly Fatmans DIY nutes, a lot of info there on AN

OP shoot me a PM with your email and I can send you my schedule which basically uses a bunch of those nutrients. Obviously not all every feeding and not a lot (20-30ml/5gal) and some stuff only gets used a couple times. My last grow was my first time using the schedule and I doubled my average per lady. It's pretty much a nutrients for dummies schedule but like I said it worked for me and I'll continue using it going forward. I also gave the schedule to two noobs who are doing their first grow and both are over halfway through the grow and havent ran into any issues so it works well. Below is everything in the schedule...

Sensi A/B Bloom
Roots oregon
tarantula
piranha
vodoo
sweet
bud candy
carbload
humbolt honey
bud factor x
overdrive
silica blast
sensizyme
nirvana
b52
cal mag
hygrozome

The Count said:

OP shoot me a PM with your email and I can send you my schedule which basically uses a bunch of those nutrients. Obviously not all every feeding and not a lot (20-30ml/5gal) and some stuff only gets used a couple times. My last grow was my first time using the schedule and I doubled my average per lady. It's pretty much a nutrients for dummies schedule but like I said it worked for me and I'll continue using it going forward. I also gave the schedule to two noobs who are doing their first grow and both are over halfway through the grow and havent ran into any issues so it works well. Below is everything in the schedule...

Sensi A/B Bloom
Roots oregon
tarantula
piranha
vodoo
sweet
bud candy
carbload
humbolt honey
bud factor x
overdrive
silica blast
sensizyme
nirvana
b52
cal mag
hygrozome

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you do realize that there is NOTHING "nutrients for dummies" about this lineup. that is insane that you use so many additives. half that stuff is the exact same thing as the other half. and a lot of that stuff doesn't need to be used in certain mediums. you really need to cut out about 12 of those additives and you'll probably get better plants.

Averaged 3-4zips per lady so not sure how much better it can get. The point of this schedule is to not feed it the same type of sugars or bloom boosters to keep the plant guessing so to speak ... Similar to a human not eating the same foods everyday. The guy who developed this schedule with 5 of his friends has been growing for 15+ yrs so no offense but I'll take his word for it.

Id say the schedule is pretty much nutes for dummies since the two people who are now using it have never grown before... So if they pull 3-4 zips per lady on their first grow you don't think this shit works? I averaged about a zip so my experiences tells me it works

The Count said:

Averaged 3-4zips per lady so not sure how much better it can get. The point of this schedule is to not feed it the same type of sugars or bloom boosters to keep the plant guessing so to speak ... Similar to a human not eating the same foods everyday. The guy who developed this schedule with 5 of his friends has been growing for 15+ yrs so no offense but I'll take his word for it.

Id say the schedule is pretty much nutes for dummies since the two people who are now using it have never grown before... So if they pull 3-4 zips per lady on their first grow you don't think this shit works? I averaged about a zip so my experiences tells me it works

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no offense dude, but anyone that says you need 16 additives is a complee fucking moron. even worse is that you don't say if it's for soil or hydro. anyone who has been growing for 15+ years and uses 16 additives should be shot in my opinion. there are 5 things on that list that are the EXACT same thing as something else on that list...just made by a different company. anyone who says you automatically need Cal/Mag even if you are using RO water is a dumbass. 3-4 zips per plant means nothing without talking about veg times, training techniques, lighting, medium, etc... yippee...you got 4 zips off a plant. doesn't mean dick if they were vegged for 8 weeks and then flowered under a single 600w light each. got to give some context or those numbers are worthless. i don't care how long someone has been growing...stupid is stupid.

please post pics of your plants or it doesn't really matter. you've seen my pics...let's see yours. i wanna see some healthy plants with fat colas on them that you grew. this advice is fucking dangerous and is exactly why so many growers fry their crops.

p.s. 3-4 zips off a single plant and you are "not sure how you can do much better."? i get 6 ounces off plants that are 3' tall at harvest. if you aren't getting 1.0-1.25 grams per watt then there is a LOT of room for improvement. a quick search of your recent posts and started threads will show almost anyone that you are the LAST person that whould be giving advice on growing to anyone. you haven't been able to get your nutes or rooms dialed in and some of the questions you post are beginner shit so maybe you need to get a few harvests under your belt before you start trying to convince people they need 16 additives.

Have you seen my schedule ass wipe? So how the fuck do you know if my advice is dangerous? I told him to send me his email if he wanted it. I'll be glad to post some pics when my current batch gets underway(just sprouted a week ago) to show u 4 week veg and 3-4 ft plants with big colas. Again you seem to be dancing around it...I have two friends who've NEVER GROWN ... And when they pull 3-4 per off their first go around its pretty obvious the schedule works. Just because people don't do shit the way you do doesn't mean it doesn't work. I originally thought u were a cool dude but its pretty evident you're just an arrogant asshole.

Id say averaging 3-4 zips with 29 ladies is pretty fucking good for my 3rd grow. I sure hope u can pull more than that since you probably have been doing this much longer. Just like I'm sure my next round will be better than my last. Maybe everyone should just abandon what's worked for them and go with ur almighty method douchebag

The Count said:

Have you seen my schedule ass wipe? So how the fuck do you know if my advice is dangerous? I told him to send me his email if he wanted it. I'll be glad to post some pics when my current batch gets underway(just sprouted a week ago) to show u 4 week veg and 3-4 ft plants with big colas. Again you seem to be dancing around it...I have two friends who've NEVER GROWN ... And when they pull 3-4 per off their first go around its pretty obvious the schedule works. Just because people don't do shit the way you do doesn't mean it doesn't work. I originally thought u were a cool dude but its pretty evident you're just an arrogant asshole.

Id say averaging 3-4 zips with 29 ladies is pretty fucking good for my 3rd grow. I sure hope u can pull more than that since you probably have been doing this much longer. Just like I'm sure my next round will be better than my last. Maybe everyone should just abandon what's worked for them and go with ur almighty method douchebag

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i don't need to see your schedule. you have 16 ADDITIVES. i already know you are clueless. it's like taking driving advice from Stevie Wonder. no offense to Stevie, but i know he has no clue how to drive. your advice is dangerous. if you had any grows under your belt you would have pics of them. instead, you come on here regurjitating some BS recipe that you probably got from the only person you talk to about growing; the guy at the hydro store. try and actually learn about base and micro nutrients and what they provide to your plants. you claim to be on your 3rd grow...i doubt even that. either way, you shouldn't be giving this advice to anyone. go find me someone else on this forum with some actual growing experience that uses 16 additives. please do. you won't. wanna know why? cause only newbs are that fucking stupid. only retards who get "sold" by the guy at the hydro store are that ignorant. 4 week veg and you get 3 zips? i'm laughing my ass off right now.

i'll make you a bet. i'll send you $1000 if you can actually grow 1 healthy plant all the way through harvest on your system. i feel bad for the 2 guys you convinced to try it. they got punked by you. i can grow better plants with some compost and water than that shit for brains schedule you have. 16 FUCKING ADDITIVES!!! are you kidding me?

like i said before...post pictures of your plants so i can have a good laugh or shut the fuck up and go back to figuring out if you need a carbon filter (https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/554598-carbon-air-filter-needed-closed.html); complaining about an RO system that is working just fine (https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/555109-hydrologic-evolution-ro100.html); or trying to figure out what is wrong with these beauties you posted 4 days ago:



i don't see 3-4 zips there buddy...