The title of this thread reads Advanced Nutrients Vs House and Garden Vs GH : RESULTS ARE IN ! .... I pointed out that it wasn't a true brand comparison because the only thing changed was the base. Never said go spend the money and buy a full line up to do a true comparison. That's just crazy.
" Obviously the implication is the base nute is a representative of a particular brand and an enitre brand can be judged by just the base...That's just wrong man...
Looks like he specifically lists what he used. That would be a big title if he listed it all out there...
So just because you can't understand a simple side-by-side-by side comparison, I'm the dick?
It's simple and straight forward and if you don't agree with the method, there is plenty of room on this board to post your own. Get to it!
Dude, come on, no need to be a dick. At least hes trying, running experiments, what are you doing? Jumping onto his thread being a dick. How about you lay off and try improve on it yourself? That is how science works.
Well put. I switched from soil to hydro only about a year ago. I was sold on AN only because it was supposed to have this PH perfect etc etc. Turns out despite all their ads in mags and the net that it isnt out even now a year later. I wanted to avoid PH meters PPM meters etc and just have it be very easy. Used thier entire line up and spent tons of $$. I then found that H&G was almost half the cost for their A & B and thought I would compare those. Then a kid that works at the local hydro shop turned me on to the GH Maxibloom and said it worked better then anything else they had in the shop when used full strength and with Floralicous plus. I didnt beleive it but he swore up and down so I added this to my comparisons. Been running all three at the same time for a long time. Still am in fact. They all work great but the fact that the GH powder is the cheapest PLUS it gives me the best results make it a clear winner for me. Tired of paying for the water they mix their nutes in and fancy labels. These powders work !! FYI funny thing is AN even admits you are paying way more for water with their Big Bud. I called them and they flat o0ut told me the BB Powder worked exactly the same as their liquid that costs twice as much. Same exact thing but pre-diluted . Mileage may vary but for me it is an easy choice right now. I am not buying any more H&G or AN. In fact I have half of two 5 gallon jugs left of the H&G I dont think I am even going to use because the Maxibloom is giving me a noticeable improvement over it. Already gave my last packet of Shooting powder to a friend.
Yes each has its own light centered. Rotated nutes from each tray each round just to make sure the air wasnt better or that one ballast wasnt better then another. Removed the variables in other words.
How am I being a dick to Dlively? I think it was cool he took the time to run an experiment. I think it was great he posted his results. I think more people should do stuff like that. Only thing I disagreed with about the experiment is that it wasn't really AN vs H&G vs GH but that it was the bases of those 3 nutes being compared. My back and forth is with Homebrewer and no one else. Go back and read Post#22 and it might make more sense.Dude, come on, no need to be a dick. At least hes trying, running experiments, what are you doing? Jumping onto his thread being a dick. How about you lay off and try improve on it yourself? That is how science works.
You might have missed it in a previous post but I did in fact use the entire AN and H&G lineup for a full round or two each as well. They simply did not perform any better then the cheapo route I am running now. In fact they didnt perform as well. Saying the base nutes arent a fair representation of a product line , to me, is like saying you tried racing three different cars from three different car companies all with the same aftermarket supercharger added to them but it isnt a fair comparison of the brands. The base nute is the engine the additives are the power adders IE supercharger. Hope that makes sense, I am a car guy too =)
Highly untrue. I use products from all different lines because they all have their better products... just because AN's base isn't as good isn't to say when u start adding their bud blood and big bud and overdrive you arn't going to get better results then the gh equivilent. I actually mix and match my products which ultimately proves my point. (bud blood & big bud are great products from AN. House and Garden has shooting powerder and bud XL which are really good also so why would i use overdrive when i can get a better product from a different company?) I mix and match a lot of products to get the best results. Ever get a chance to try some house and garden's root excelurator I suggest you do its the best on the market.If a base nute line isn't representative of particular brand, then I don't know what is.
Why do people keep posting this? It's obvious to anyone that actually bothers to READ it that it's simply not registered there.
I agree, it's not a true test of the lines, just specific products of the lines. And I've seen other people get different results. Truly scientific results are repeatable.
. The over-priced nutes will lose every time.The products are suposed to be used in a set that's what you guys fail to realize. YES IT COSTS MORE. But it gets better results... Everyone knows you cant grow plants on additive alone but when they are meant to be used with a set and u don't use them of course you are not going to get the results expected. I've gone through tons of nutrients and i think the gh base nutes are just fine and i do use them for my outdoor (cause they are cheap and effective) but to base ur experiment solely on that and to write off AN and House and Garden is stupid. Use the whole sets and compare them then we will see who comes out on top. As a base nutrient line comparison ok... as a nutrient line comparison this doesn't work..You people that are criticizing this experiment make me laugh. You cannot grow healthy plants on 'additives' alone, you need the base nutes. No one is arguing against that point but that just goes to show how critical the base nutes are. Why are the base nutes so critical? Because those base nutes will contain 90-95% of the essentials and if your 'line' requires you to buy 10 more products in order to get good results, well your base nutes suck.
For those of you who want to expand on this experiment to encompass nute lines, then challenge me and start your own thread. I'll use a DynaGro line or a GH line, it doesn't really matter either way