Advanced Nutrients = waste of money.

Clown Baby

Clown Baby

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AimAim said:
This is true. There are 2 forms of N available to plants one Urea and Ammonia form, P is only available as P2O5, and K as only K20. Nobodies fertilizer is that much better. This is pretty much the only forms that plants can utilize and they are simply specific chem compounds. Nitrogen is produced by extracting N from atmospheric air, in North America most Phosphorus is mined in Florida, and most Potassium comes from Canada. This is from memory from a college class 30 years ago. Anyway as best I remember the Prof said fertilizer was kind of like asprin, a generic was as good as top shelf
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just gonna put it out there that p2o5 (phosphorus oxide) and k2o (potassium oxide) are just the forms listed on npk ratings. plants dont uptake p205 or k2o.

the rest of what you said is pretty solid. oh you did neglect to mention nitrate nitrogen, which is the form that doesnt need to be broken down with nitrification. im a couple rum and cokes deep but im pretty sure on that.

so everything you mentioned after the first three sentences is solid
 
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kiwiseed45

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Sorry truly...so on guard on these forums...people are amazingly dick to everyone...shocking sometimes. just bored waiting on grow so peruse the forums, but people are like almost impossible to talk to much less your thread be noticed...haha shit crazy!
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

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kiwiseed45 said:
Sorry truly...so on guard on these forums...people are amazingly dick to everyone...shocking sometimes. just bored waiting on grow so peruse the forums, but people are like almost impossible to talk to much less your thread be noticed...haha shit crazy!
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Dont be a dick is what i say, be the change you want to see in the world ~ Gandhi :):):)
 
decrimCA

decrimCA

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ChroniSuierkush said:
I just recently finished my first cycle with my new line of advanced nutrients that were so GRACIOUSLY RECOMMENDED to me. And I have to say... The cost (500 us dollars+) , plus intensive labor of having too add so much to my water on a constant basis was way not worth it. This is the LOWEST yield i have ever got, although it is of good quality. Takin it simple this time. ( dyna-gro grow, bloom, pro-tek, mag-pro, k-l-n, and some gravity)

beginning to think less is definitely more.
Its just a weed
i would never put myself on a feeding schedule like the crazy people at advanced nutrients recommend to our GIRLS, and i am beginning to think A N are just a huge money plot with fancy names and advertising, and shitty product. I just wanna grow!
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Yes, less is more.

I hate it when people oversell stuff. You have to be suspicious about that when anyone tries to sell you more and more things. But...really, it's your fault if you pull out your cash. But, come on, it's not AN's fault - it's just a salesperson who knows they're going to get a big commission in return.

Just wanted to point that one out.
 
waterdawg

waterdawg

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How is having bunk products on the shelf that do nothing, not AN's fault? It's the customer's fault for trusting? I don't think so.
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I work for an HVAC company and take great pride in givivg people what they need, not what will line my pocket with profit (although I do need that as well lol). Companies are there to make a profit yes but also to provide a service in an ethical and honest way. Its not enough to say buyer beware IMO. The guys at the hydro store I used to go to were willing to sell anything that had a price on it even if it was bull crap. I saw a poor guy walk out with a full line of organics and beneficials, and in the same bag they sold him a synthetic booster, poor guy just wasted all his money on organics. only to kill any microbes when he added the booster. Oh and they also sold him a TDS meter for measuring the organic nutes lol. Last time in that store BTW.
 
Malevolence

Malevolence

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Bloom boosters don't kill benes I run hydroplex and koolbloom with pondzyme and aquashield in dwc np. H2o2, bleach, and chlorine will kill benes. Synthetic nutes and silica will not.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Malevolence said:
Bloom boosters don't kill benes I run hydroplex and koolbloom with pondzyme and aquashield in dwc np. H2o2, bleach, and chlorine will kill benes. Synthetic nutes and silica will not.
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I invite you to read the very first paragraph of the book, Teaming with microbes.

Smart gardeners know that soil is anything but an inert substance. Healthy soil is teeming with life – not just earthworms and insects, but a staggering multitude of bacteria, fungi, and other microorganisms. When we use chemical fertilizers, we injure the microbial life that sustains healthy plants and become increasingly dependent on an arsenal of artificial, often toxic, substances.
 
Alexander Supertramp

Alexander Supertramp

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Malevolence said:
Bloom boosters don't kill benes I run hydroplex and koolbloom with pondzyme and aquashield in dwc np. H2o2, bleach, and chlorine will kill benes. Synthetic nutes and silica will not.
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chuck estevez said:
I invite you to read the very first paragraph of the book, Teaming with microbes.

Smart gardeners know that soil is anything but an inert substance. Healthy soil is teeming with life – not just earthworms and insects, but a staggering multitude of bacteria, fungi, and other microorganisms. When we use chemical fertilizers, we injure the microbial life that sustains healthy plants and become increasingly dependent on an arsenal of artificial, often toxic, substances.
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You both are correct. There is a meeting place in the middle where active soil biology and so called synthetic nutes can live in harmony. The misuse of pesticides have a far greater impact on soil biology.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Alexander Supertramp said:
You both are correct. There is a meeting place in the middle where active soil biology and so called synthetic nutes can live in harmony. The misuse of pesticides have a far greater impact on soil biology.
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what up alex? Yeah, I understand what your saying, Ultimately, you want to provide an environment for your beneies to thrive, using chems. does not provide for the optimal environment. and usually,people are finishing there run before any beneies even become useful.
 
ProfessorPotSnob

ProfessorPotSnob

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The whole argument on Synthetics killing off biological life stems from a long term impact on native soils in general and I dont find it to be applicable to indoor growing , unless your into the TLO or other Organic methods that reuse soil ..
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Here - let me say this to the genius AN haters: you're so frigging smart and it is all so simple then STFU and start making your own super nutes. Otherwise all your blowing is like so much fart gas. A bunch of know-it-alls that don't know shit. You go on about how cheap the salts are and how common and . . . .. But you keep buying some product.
 
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