Advice needed! Tips on increasing BHO yield.

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dankillerbs

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"If (as the subject of this thread implies) your goal is to simply increase your yield, then run it like there's no tomorrow..."
-researchkitty

^thats there is more dangerous than grinding the material fine to start with, which achieves the same thing(increased yeild)... If your oil seems "dirtier" from doing that then you may not have a good enough filter. And thanks for the link with the idiots blowing up, never said it didnt happen, just said you were and idiot if it did!
 
Unnk

Unnk

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lol one time i had to bho 6 oz of old crispy buds goood amazing fucking great hazey shit but too airy to smoke nice gave me 34.8 grams of stellar crispy blonde

edit ps in hinde sight i should have enlisted help it took me a day of work with 1 tube


maybe 6 tubes woulda helped :D
 
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str8sativa

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lol you idiot i never said purge in freezer and that woould not work in first place. i said put the purged oil into the fridge. not a dish full of butane
 
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Dubdeuce

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dankillerbs said:
Well then you are willing to sacrifice quality for not much more quantity then...which im not willing to do. While butane is an excellent solvent for this purpose, it will still strip some non actives from the plant matter...Its not 100% actives your extracting. Your also making the process twice as dangerous and bad for the environment by evaporating more butane. With 20%-25% returns already with only one can, id rather be using that second can to make 6-7 more grams of wax than a few more little dabs and more time blasting and waiting:)
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If one can of extra butane is going to cause a ripple in global warming, then we better all keep it to 1 can per tube. LOL.

Let's get real.. One jet liner flight creates more pollution than any single human can create in 10 years and there's around 5,000 planes in the air at any given time.

And how exactly does the process become twice as dangerous when using a second can of butane? It doesn't appear as though anything has gotten more dangerous by running a second can of butane. The sheer of act of open-pouring butane into a dish is dangerous, yes, but doing a second can doesn't raise the danger?

I second using an extra $3 can of butane to make sure you get all your product. Yeah, you're not pulling 100% THC, but you never were in the first place.
 
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bhoguy

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Just a thought most people are making there bho through a pipe or glass tube while your weed is in the tube the butane under pressure tends to channel through the weed not really giving it an effective rinse restricting your yield . Try this Get a big mason jar with lid and ring in the lid poke three small holes. instead of putting your weed in the jar first unload a couple canisters of butane into the jar turning it into liquid butane then take the lid off and then add the weed until its almost right level with the butane not too much but still soupy. still allowing you to swish it around in a circle in the car then take the lid off and put a coffee filter over the top of the jar and the ring over the filter securing it. dump into a pyrex class dish in a hot water bath like usual... this way allowing the butane to better wash your weed also believe you save on butane this way.. Hope this helps
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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bhoguy said:
Just a thought most people are making there bho through a pipe or glass tube while your weed is in the tube the butane under pressure tends to channel through the weed not really giving it an effective rinse restricting your yield . Try this Get a big mason jar with lid and ring in the lid poke three small holes. instead of putting your weed in the jar first unload a couple canisters of butane into the jar turning it into liquid butane then take the lid off and then add the weed until its almost right level with the butane not too much but still soupy. still allowing you to swish it around in a circle in the car then take the lid off and put a coffee filter over the top of the jar and the ring over the filter securing it. dump into a pyrex class dish in a hot water bath like usual... this way allowing the butane to better wash your weed also believe you save on butane this way.. Hope this helps
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It works with a thermos for ya'll that don't live in cool climates.
 
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biglungs

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a big jar of pooled butane sound like a great idea...

if u want to make sure all your material gets rinsed try turning your tube at slight angle and rotating it constantly allowing the gas to flow thru all trims. as the tane starts to exit the tube i return it to an upright position
 
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yeti5508

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bhoguy, and fadedawg...

im interested in using the butane soak method, i was looking at other solvents to use for soaking because i never thought it was possible to use butane to soak..

whast the return rate? higher than a column method?

im going to be looking for the biggest thermos available now..

and theres no problem not having any force to push trichome goo threw the filter???

is the plastic inside the thermos going to get eaten by the butane?
 
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Fadedawg

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Return rate depends on the material, but mine is around 20% on our average bud. That is similar to what I got with a column after repacking it and running a second pass. About 16/18% on the first pass, and about 5% the second.

I don't use a filter on the thermos, but dump into a Chinoise wire strainer and then through a coffee filter. The butane then passes through the coffee filter rapidly.

Plastic can be an issue, depending on what kind it is. Polypropylene is suitable, but many others like styrene are not. You can check the different materials out at: http://www.coleparmer.com/Chemical-Resistance?referred_id=2531&GCID=S18582x241&KEYWORD=+cole++palmer+com&KEYWORD=+cole++palmer+com&WT.srch=1&creative=13855999479&mkwid=saxw866e6&pcrid=13855999479&gclid=CNmd-q7B0bUCFUeCQgodxnsA8w

I use an all stainless thermos, with no plastic exposed and that is what I recommend. Check your thrift stores, as I pick them up regularly for about $15.
 
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rory420420

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Somebodys not doing it right,cuz if I had all this bho laying around I wouldn't be able to find my computer...:-D
 
jdmay420

jdmay420

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PUSH IT TROUGH SLOWLY, put the butane can lightly on your extractor and press down very slowly until there is a slight flow of liquid, then hold it there for a while its slowly drips down the extractor, it is very important that you do it in one fluid motion that slowly fills up the extractor with liquid. as the liquid travels down slowly it will leak out of the bottom a yellow/greenish fluid that is exactly what you want. the slower you do it, the more time the butane has to extract the THC the more potent it will be, so make sure you grind your herb very finely, i use a coffee grinder then i pack my class extractor as tight as i can and i usually get about 1.5 grams of oil for 10 grams of shake.
 
Scroga

Scroga

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Whats the difference between double boiling and just putting your product straight on griddle?(after initial hot water purge)
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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Most electrically heated hotplates for cooking, work by having elements under a thick metal plate, which they heat by overheating in local spots and letting convection transfer and even out the temperature. The local hot spots may be too hot for our purposes.

Using a double boiler applies the heat evenly from the bottom and sides. That is why they use them for delicate sauces when cooking.
 
Scroga

Scroga

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Thanks for clarifying that for me mate, just a couple more things if I may..
When double boiling what is the lowest and what is the highest temp for effective purge? And how high should the high tide mark of the water be in relation to the butane?
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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Scroga said:
Thanks for clarifying that for me mate, just a couple more things if I may..
When double boiling what is the lowest and what is the highest temp for effective purge? And how high should the high tide mark of the water be in relation to the butane?
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I use 140F tap water when doing the initial catch and purge, and what I use next depends on what I'm going to do with the oil. I use a 250F oil bath for final purge and decarboxylation of oral meds. I usually purge vaporization meds in a thin film at 115F under vacuum, without a double boiler.

The containers catching the butane and oil mixture are typically floating in hot water, so the tide mark adjust itself as the volume goes up and down.
 
Scroga

Scroga

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Ok..i was assuming my pyrex bowl wouldn't float.. So my first attempt has to be ghetto style out in the bush...i will be taking a thermos filled with boiling water, 950ml-5.6inx2.5 inch pyrex bowl,usb cup warmer, solar charger (usb), queen bee extractor, parchment paper,esky with ice and of course butane and all the necessary safety gear!(including buddy with extinguisher lol)...wish me luck yall! Hopefully I catch a fish at the same time!
 
sacpirate

sacpirate

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jdmay420 said:
PUSH IT TROUGH SLOWLY, put the butane can lightly on your extractor and press down very slowly until there is a slight flow of liquid, then hold it there for a while its slowly drips down the extractor, it is very important that you do it in one fluid motion that slowly fills up the extractor with liquid. as the liquid travels down slowly it will leak out of the bottom a yellow/greenish fluid that is exactly what you want. the slower you do it, the more time the butane has to extract the THC the more potent it will be, so make sure you grind your herb very finely, i use a coffee grinder then i pack my class extractor as tight as i can and i usually get about 1.5 grams of oil for 10 grams of shake.
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i pack mine as tight as i cAn. i think i forces the tane to work its way thru slower. i also think if not packed tightly the ne wl choose the path of least resistance as it escapes. tamiziums work on a tightly packed chamber and thats where i based my decision. the tamizium(t175) also runs about 700ml over 50-60 grams. also why i decided to run 3+ thru my 100g tube. bout 1/3 way thru the 4th it feels clean. ive only done a few runs but my last yielded 23g of wax from 180ish of old ass trim2013-04-03_21-20-47_991 (1).jpg
 
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dgp

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I use lucienne gas. Tastes the same as vector for a lot less. Also..I don't recommend too tightly packed. If too much tane goes in and freezes/expands, you can blow your tube up. Usually it would just shoot the weed out but it can break your tube, injure you, or worst of all.....get glass and trim in your bho. I only run one can per tube to keep costs down and then make bubble or iso out of the trim to salvage any leftover glands
 
H338

H338

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jdmay420 said:
PUSH IT TROUGH SLOWLY, put the butane can lightly on your extractor and press down very slowly until there is a slight flow of liquid, then hold it there for a while its slowly drips down the extractor, it is very important that you do it in one fluid motion that slowly fills up the extractor with liquid. as the liquid travels down slowly it will leak out of the bottom a yellow/greenish fluid that is exactly what you want. the slower you do it, the more time the butane has to extract the THC the more potent it will be, so make sure you grind your herb very finely, i use a coffee grinder then i pack my class extractor as tight as i can and i usually get about 1.5 grams of oil for 10 grams of shake.
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Glad to hear someone does that little "fill 'n' hold method. I don't pack very tightly though, I just smack the shit out of the sides of the extractor. My thinking is that fluid is gonna have a hard-ass time making it through. While at first thought it sounded good to me but I think there might be spots not getting hit.
 
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