Advice on my grow! All comments welcomed!

Rhodes55

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Like I said, not very tall and not sure if they really are ready for flower yet. Any advice would be great.
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booms111

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@booms111 @HolyAngel @Teag I'd like to stick with LED they've always worked well for me. Is there a brand or a site that is 100% upfront with the wattage output, would love to purchase one to either throw in the flower stage of this grow or for the next run. (I don't have a problem spending money, just guide me kind friends)
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/all is who you want to deal with. best thing to do is buy the boards from HLG and buy a meanwell driver that matches boards from a company like Aarow and build your own rig but they do sell complete light packages but there way more pricey then building one if your handy
 

Rhodes55

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https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/all is who you want to deal with. best thing to do is buy the boards from HLG and buy a meanwell driver that matches boards from a company like Aarow and build your own rig but they do sell complete light packages but there way more pricey then building one if your handy
Not to familiar with HLG and boards and I wouldn’t know where to start. Did a lot of research through the night and found this link. Only LED I see that doesn’t have “actual wattage” or “only consumes x wattage” in description, looks like it might give out 510W and I would taken care of the spectrums for both veg and flower. Thoughts?
 

Rhodes55

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Rapidled has everything you need for a DIY build and they also have pre-built fixtures as well.
Thanks! I just checked them out and for a 2x4 space they don’t put out more than 315w and the 4x4 only 580w. If we go back to @booms111 math at 50w/sq.ft these wouldn’t be sufficient either. 2x4 needs 400w and 4x4 needs 800w. Am I missing something here?
 

booms111

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Not to familiar with HLG and boards and I wouldn’t know where to start. Did a lot of research through the night and found this link. Only LED I see that doesn’t have “actual wattage” or “only consumes x wattage” in description, looks like it might give out 510W and I would taken care of the spectrums for both veg and flower. Thoughts?
No, avoid anything that's putting off purple light. You want white led diodes. For that kind of money you can buy a nice setup from HLG. With newer white diode leds can run down to even 25w sqft and get really good results, I've done it. Here's what I'd reccomend you do, buy one of these for bloom.


Use your two blurples for veg cycle as you have done already with succes and then switch out to the Quantums for bloom. First time you light up the quantums you will see what's up! The QB setup at 260w will smash that blurple you linked putting out 510w with half the wattage. Dont get hung up on wattage so much. Quality of photons the light puts out that the plants absorb is important also. Shit a 65w quantum board probably hold it's own against a blurple running 2x more wattage because of the quality of light it produces.
 
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HolyAngel

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@booms111 @HolyAngel @Teag I'd like to stick with LED they've always worked well for me. Is there a brand or a site that is 100% upfront with the wattage output, would love to purchase one to either throw in the flower stage of this grow or for the next run. (I don't have a problem spending money, just guide me kind friends)
HLG, horticulturelightinggroup. Totally worth it. The qb288's are fantastic as well as the qb96's. You could save some money going with meijiu or kingbright on alibaba but good luck on warranty for those. All of these show accurate wattage and are good for the ~30w/sq.ft
 

Rhodes55

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No, avoid anything that's putting off purple light. You want white led diodes. For that kind of money you can buy a nice setup from HLG. With newer white diode leds can run down to even 25w sqft and get really good results, I've done it. Here's what I'd reccomend you do, buy one of these for bloom.


Use your two blurples for veg cycle as you have done already with succes and then switch out to the Quantums for bloom. First time you light up the quantums you will see what's up! The QB setup at 260w will smash that blurple you linked putting out 510w with half the wattage. Dont get hung up on wattage so much. Quality of photons the light puts out that the plants absorb is important also. Shit a 65w quantum board probably hold it's own against a blurple running 2x more wattage because of the quality of light it produces.
Wow great insight bro! I’m going to order that setup right now!
 

booms111

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Wow great insight bro! I’m going to order that setup right now!
SWEET! Keep your temps up alittle in bloom and start the light up really high in tent to not stress them with to much intensity. Your going to do great in 2x4 with that light!!!

Also on the led driver there will be a small rubber cap. under it you can adjust the wattage. I'd bet that driver will turn up to at least 280w. I'd recommend buying a Kil-a-watt meter that plugs into outlet then you plug light in to it to see the actual wattage being used. Here's one i have.

 
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Teag

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Thanks! I just checked them out and for a 2x4 space they don’t put out more than 315w and the 4x4 only 580w. If we go back to @booms111 math at 50w/sq.ft these wouldn’t be sufficient either. 2x4 needs 400w and 4x4 needs 800w. Am I missing something here?
We use watts because it is easy. But, watts don't take efficiency into account. The 2x4 figure puts out 40 w/sq.ft.(just using your numbers above). And 50 w/sq.ft. is kind of a max, so I would be happy with that light but really its up to you to figure out how much you want to spend. HLG is better. But it is more expensive. LED's last a long time but their output decreases over time making them not such a long term investment.
 
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