Advice please on how long to veg.... Pics included

Thundercat said:

Sturdy up those critical jacks for sure, the less work the plant has to do to keep form falling over the more work it will put into the buds. Its very possible the Ice could be done sooner then the CJ, have you checked the trichomes on the Ice plant. That is gonna show you how mature it is, I always harvest once they are all cloudy, and I just notice a few ambers. They will continue to mature as they dry and get cured. Some people harvest with as much as 50% amber trichomes, but as far as I'm concerned that is waaay to late. The amber is a sign that the cannabinoids are degrading, cloudy is supposed to give peak THC content. I'd check the trichs on the Ice, and then make the call on pulling it, its gotta be around 8 weeks now so it very well may be done.

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Lights are off right now , I will go in there and check the trichs more thoroughly in the morning. If indeed there are some amber trichs does that mean I need to pull it now or begin my rinse?

I personally don't flush plants, I have tried it both ways and don't bother any more I couldn't notice the diifference. If you want to flush then I would flush now either way. If its that close to the end then its time to flush any ways. If its got many amber trichs, I'd flush it a few days and pull it personally.

Thundercat said:

I personally don't flush plants, I have tried it both ways and don't bother any more I couldn't notice the diifference. If you want to flush then I would flush now either way. If its that close to the end then its time to flush any ways. If its got many amber trichs, I'd flush it a few days and pull it personally.

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Nope actually all the trichs are still white .. I thought I saw amber but realized that it was the color of the HPS lamp . So i took her out of the grow room and inspected her more and all trichs are still white .

Oh and another question if you will . About these trichs . I often get medicine from the dispensary , Top Shelf stuff like Pinnapple Express , Xj13 , Big Berry OG , and it's always top shelf top notch stuff .... But when I examine the trichs on the stuff I buy from the dispensary the trichs are always white or clear not Amber ..... Does this mean that they are harvesting too soon the weed for the dispensary? Because everything I get from them has no amber trichs on them , and it's cured of course .

No not nessesarly, it is very possible as they are producing commercially, but I harvest my plants when they are white, not with a significant amount of amber any way. They are supposed to be at their peak when they are white like I said before. Some people feel that if you let them get amber it will change the effects, but to the contrary others feel the opposite. I think effects are mostly determined by the strain and how well its grown, and that most strains have a wider harvest window then some people give them. I've tried leaving plants an extra 2-3 weeks and seeing what difference there was, and honestly I never noticed one. I smoke alot though, perhaps someone that doesn't might feel it, or it could be visible on a test. Any way if cloudy is an up high, and amber is a couchlock high and it does make a big difference, I still like an up high most of the time so I harvest when they are cloudy/white. This harvest I am going to be toying with leaving different clones of the same strain long then others since its the first time I'm running them. I'm hoping to determine what is best for the strains.

So anyway its all up to you now, harvest white, or wait for ambers, and if you wait how long? Personally if its been a good 7-9 weeks and they are all white I'd pull it. Maybe give it 72 hours of dark time to maximize the THC content and then chop her.

I've revegged a few times and almost doubled my original harvest. I think revegging is good for a one time deal. I've tried revegging a plant the second time and though, there were plenty of buds they were a third smaller than the time before. It sounds like you know what to do if you do decide to reveg. Remember to leave plenty of small buds on the bottom. I leave 8-10 buds. Trim up the rootball put in new soil with a shot of N. I like to keep mine off to the side of my growroom until new growth appears. Then I put them right under the light. Careful watering because they don't need much when first starting. Your plants look awesome. Enjoy! rep to ya

Ok so I am planning on harvesting the ice in the next few days and the CJ's in about a week and half . they have red hairs on them now about 1 out of 5 are reddish in color ... would it be beneficial for me to not water them anymore and then harvest them once the leaves start to wilt? That way there is less moisture in the plant to dry out and perhaps drying will be quicker?

Any thoughts on this?

I like to do that. I've pulled my plants out of my tray 3-4 days early in order to do the same thing and eliminate the water the last several days. I'm sure there is differing opinions on this, but I like a long slow drying process, and starting to dry on the plant seems like a very natural thing to me.

Thundercat said:

I like to do that. I've pulled my plants out of my tray 3-4 days early in order to do the same thing and eliminate the water the last several days. I'm sure there is differing opinions on this, but I like a long slow drying process, and starting to dry on the plant seems like a very natural thing to me.

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Well after further inspection I noticed about 1/2 of my trichs were cloudy on the CJ's a few ambers on the Ice . Also I noticed that the CJ's had gone herme on the lower branches and there were a few ball sacks and I think even seeds , they are soft and green little balls nestled in the base of the buds but only on the lower small popcorn buds, didn't notice any on the big buds at the canopy. So I am putting all 4 of the plants starting 2pm today under 72 hours of dark , I am putting a small radiator style heater in there and keep it on low so the temp stays between 70 and 75 during the dark period . From the looks of things I expect to yield maybe a pound off all 4 plants after drying . I guess I could have done better but this is my first grow and I assume I will have enough smoke to last several months...... We are moving to new house soon so I am going to wait on another grow until we move. I will post pics once the harvest is complete.

Sounds good man, sorry to here about the hermie atleast it wasn't real early on.

Thundercat said:

Sounds good man, sorry to here about the hermie atleast it wasn't real early on.

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Yeah thanks for the advice , I think there may be more than a pound but I really can't tell until it dries. I have about 12 big fat cola buds and about 10 medium sized side branch buds and at least 20 small under growth branches with pop corn buds all over them . So it may be more than a pound. The hermies I don't think effected anything but a few bottom branches and the seeds are soft and green , so I don't think that will much of a problem ... I trimmed all the big fans leaves off before I turned the lights off for good on them today at 2 Pm , hopefully that will cause the remaining moisture to go to making last minute trichs during the 72 hour dark period . It's kind of sad to think in about 70 Hours I will be reaping them ... I have been procrastinating it but I feel it's time.

Looking forward to my next grow. I hope in the new house I will have a larger grow space and more equipment . I think I may try doing Hydro in Perlite next time , i read it's pretty easy to do it that way in a hempy bucket system with auto watering containers .

I am going to try to reveg the Ice plant though and see if it will grow outdoors for the summer , I can easily transport that one plant to my new home .

Well thanks again everybody for your advice . I will post pictures of the buds I reap after they are hanging to dry .

Peace Out

Well here they are in all their glory , hangin out to dry .... I got the ICE under a CFL tyring to veg .



Plus I have a box full of trimmings and stems for Hash and I have a Quart Jar full of pop corn buds that I already dried out . (gonna use those to make butter)

Are those big fat purpley white colas the ice plant? They look very pretty man!

Thundercat said:

Are those big fat purpley white colas the ice plant? They look very pretty man!

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Yeah i cut them off the plant so i could re veg it ... I really like the way the Ice grew . It didn't have a lot of fan leaves . It grew up like one big fat cola with sugar leaves and buds all intertwined ... That's why I WANT to salvage it .. It makes a great strain for limited space . And it smells heavenly . Sticky as shit

Well here is my harvest , one big jar is full of the Ice Buds , the other big Jar and small jar are full of the Best Buds from the CJ's , then the pile of loose weed on the tray is just some pop corn buds that I am cutting up with sizzors ,, That's gonna be my joint and blunt weed . I also I have another Jar of Full of the popcorn buds but it's in my mancave upstairs and I didn't feel like going to get it . How much weed do you guys reckon this is? I don't have a scale and not really concerned with buying one.

Great job man! Looks like some good bud for yourself.

Just ordered Ice seeds myself so it was really nice to accidentally find this thread. Nice job on those. They really look great.
BTW, Re-vegging is also referred to as re-generation. It's done mostly if you want to keep a strain going after flowering out once. I would consider making a mother from regenerated plant and taking clones. Re-generating a plant each time takes what seems like forever.

Know One said:

Just ordered Ice seeds myself so it was really nice to accidentally find this thread. Nice job on those. They really look great.
BTW, Re-vegging is also referred to as re-generation. It's done mostly if you want to keep a strain going after flowering out once. I would consider making a mother from regenerated plant and taking clones. Re-generating a plant each time takes what seems like forever.

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How did that ICE turn out?

I would consider flowering now.Usually i start them on 12/12 when there about 6-8 inches tall and they usually get 3-4 feet after strech.
Hope this helps.