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Advice Please on my sick Widow and Indica.

Waggs

Waggs

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Im putting up some pictures of both plants.

The Lil Indica Aurora has brown tips on most every leaf. Not a new condition been that way for bout a month.

The White Widow scares me tho. Started a few days back with browning spots on the fan leaves. went from bottom and worked up to the next and then the next and gettin a lil worse every day.

7 weeks old, 5 days into 12/12 under a 400 w hps with a couple 2700 cfls for side lighting.

Fox farms ocean forest / perlite/ light warr soil mix 3 gal grow bags.

Gave her some big bloom tiger bloom mix 4 days ago. Not sure if I burnt her or if this is another problem. Runoff water ph was 6.4 today when I tested her.

Any help would sure be welcome on either problem, and thank you!

First three pictures are the Widow and the last 2 are of the Indica Aurora.
 

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nick88

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Waggs said:
Im putting up some pictures of both plants.

The Lil Indica Aurora has brown tips on most every leaf. Not a new condition been that way for bout a month.

The White Widow scares me tho. Started a few days back with browning spots on the fan leaves. went from bottom and worked up to the next and then the next and gettin a lil worse every day.

7 weeks old, 5 days into 12/12 under a 400 w hps with a couple 2700 cfls for side lighting.

Fox farms ocean forest / perlite/ light warr soil mix 3 gal grow bags.

Gave her some big bloom tiger bloom mix 4 days ago. Not sure if I burnt her or if this is another problem. Runoff water ph was 6.4 today when I tested her.

Any help would sure be welcome on either problem, and thank you!

First three pictures are the Widow and the last 2 are of the Indica Aurora.
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how much of a dose did you give them?
When was last time you fed them?
That ph is a lil low, you might want to give them a good flush. They could be having lock out due to the ph. So regardless what u feed' they're not getting any nutes. They really don't look that bad, like its anything that won't be easy to remedy.

You just need to try diff things til you figure out the prob

I would def do a good flush sdo at least then you know your starting with a clean slate, so to speak.
Hope thiss helps
 
nick88

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Just out of curiosity, the yellowing didn't start bout the time you hung the cfl's did it ?
 
Waggs

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nick88 said:
Just out of curiosity, the yellowing didn't start bout the time you hung the cfl's did it ?
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No, it was developing before I got those. Just put them in yesterday.

I gave her half strength mix of big bloom and tiger bloom 4 days ago. same to the other two plants I have. She takes bout half a gallon when I feed or water her. Yesterday I gave her bout half a gallon of just aged water. 6.4 is bad eh? I will have to fix that then. want to lower then number more? I feed every other watering btw.. and 4 days ago was the first time for the tiger bloom nutes.
 
Waggs

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3 gallon grow bags from HTG. I dont see roots gathering around any of the drain holes.
 
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Thestinker

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Im experiencing this exact problem on my widow 6 weeks on its 5th day of flower, just using canna bio flores for flowering nutes.
the effected areas are only on the bottom 4 fan leaves and doesnt seem to much of a problem, my only idea for the cause is ph although Im at loss of a tester atm so need to get on that :)
keep us updated im interested to see how yours pans out
 
nick88

nick88

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Waggs said:
No, it was developing before I got those. Just put them in yesterday.

I gave her half strength mix of big bloom and tiger bloom 4 days ago. same to the other two plants I have. She takes bout half a gallon when I feed or water her. Yesterday I gave her bout half a gallon of just aged water. 6.4 is bad eh? I will have to fix that then. want to lower then number more? I feed every other watering btw.. and 4 days ago was the first time for the tiger bloom nutes.
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actualy its a lil low. 6.5 is bout the lowest you want in a soil grow. Hydri grows run lower ph. While soil growers run a lil higher.
I noticed really only bad discoloration on 1 leaf. Any chance you may have got some nute solution on it during a feeding? If so an hid will burn the piss out of it if you do.
 
Waggs

Waggs

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Thestinker said:
Im experiencing this exact problem on my widow 6 weeks on its 5th day of flower, just using canna bio flores for flowering nutes.
the effected areas are only on the bottom 4 fan leaves and doesnt seem to much of a problem, my only idea for the cause is ph although Im at loss of a tester atm so need to get on that :)
keep us updated im interested to see how yours pans out
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This started a few days back on those lower leaves. Its slowly gotten worse and moved up. I just got my ph calibration fluid today, so this was my first time to be able to check my ph. it was 6.4 so I figured it was pretty close and probably not the problem. Im a noob tho so I really dont know. I have only fed with every other watering since about week 3, my big wonder woman looks fine. Been feeding all 3 same nute mixes each time in varying amounts depending on what they drank. More as they got bigger of course. I thought I had the pot weight thing down on when to water, dont feel like I overwatered.
 
Waggs

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nick88 said:
actualy its a lil low. 6.5 is bout the lowest you want in a soil grow. Hydri grows run lower ph. While soil growers run a lil higher.
I noticed really only bad discoloration on 1 leaf. Any chance you may have got some nute solution on it during a feeding? If so an hid will burn the piss out of it if you do.
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All the bottom fan leaves are starting to look that way, and the next row of fan leaves up are also showing the signs that the lower ones showed a few days ago.

I havent done a foilar feed in a week, and no major spillage of nutes that would have hit all the leaves that are affected. When I do feed or water, I raise my light, leave the tent open, and make sure its all dry before I lower the light and zip up the tent.
 
nick88

nick88

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Waggs said:
This started a few days back on those lower leaves. Its slowly gotten worse and moved up. I just got my ph calibration fluid today, so this was my first time to be able to check my ph. it was 6.4 so I figured it was pretty close and probably not the problem. Im a noob tho so I really dont know. I have only fed with every other watering since about week 3, my big wonder woman looks fine. Been feeding all 3 same nute mixes each time in varying amounts depending on what they drank. More as they got bigger of course. I thought I had the pot weight thing down on when to water, dont feel like I overwatered.
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what's the nitrogin level of your bloom nutes? When thewy go into there stretch the first couple weeeks of flowering they really use up the nit. That's why a lot of growers will run there veg nutes until the stretch starts to level out before they swirtch to flower nutes
 
Waggs

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nick88 said:
what's the nitrogin level of your bloom nutes? When thewy go into there stretch the first couple weeeks of flowering they really use up the nit. That's why a lot of growers will run there veg nutes until the stretch starts to level out before they swirtch to flower nutes
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I just learned that in the last couple days, They hadnt had any veg nutes for 5 days since I swiched them. I gave them all some veg nutes earlier today FF Grow Big, the indica and the wonderwoman a full watering, and the widow I gave only 300 m/l of cause she got half gallon of just water yesterday.

All good thoughts and tips, thanks!
 
nick88

nick88

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Waggs said:
I just learned that in the last couple days, They hadn't had any veg nutes for 5 days since I swiched them. I gave them all some veg nutes earlier today FF Grow Big, the indica and the wonderwoman a full watering, and the widow I gave only 300 m/l of cause she got half gallon of just water yesterday.

All good thoughts and tips, thanks!
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no prob, I know my girls can get finicky as hell sometimes and aggravate the shit out of me. But that's half the fun sometimes. I would def try to get that PH up a lil though.
Good luck and just think of the rewards for all your tender care your giving them. Lol
 
Punk

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Could be nitrogen, but no yellowing, anyway, I've been thru about 3 generations of WW clones and as I'm sure it's true of most cannabis, once you start budding, it's a lot harder to stabilize and fix the problem.

I'm using about the exact same setup, FF and all that...I find that if you give them a good healthy dose of a 20-20-20 water soluable nutes early on in their veg cycle, they won't have these problems when you start budding. Also, just a reminder when you treat water with nutes and balance out the ph, give the water a few days and check it again and rebalance the ph. At that point the nuted water is stable.
 
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