UncleBuck
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simply horrible analysis.
everyone knows that getting drunk and high and behind the wheel is a great way to kill someone (or four people).
"i was drunk" is not a good legal excuse.
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everyone knows that getting drunk and high and behind the wheel is a great way to kill someone (or four people).
"i was drunk" is not a good legal excuse.
abandonconflict
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Innocent until proven privileged.
SnapsProvolone
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What I find ludricrous, alcohol kills, proven fact, however it's cannabis that is illegal. Now THAT'S fucked up.
ChesusRice
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We are talking about children and vehicle accidents involving a drunk person. Not just any kind of killing, so don't get your panties in a bunch there fella.
What are you talking about? People use it very successfully and many never go to prison ever.
ChesusRice
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UncleBuck
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in pure logic, there is no difference. they both mean 'there exists an X'.
in human logic, "many" can mean many things and "most" denotes X>50%.
i'd like to see him cite that "Most*people who killed another while drunk never go to prison for it, because they were not in control due to the alcohol".
quite the interesting legal defense, it may work for rob ford.
Canna Sylvan
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Nice try. Most makes limits such as, "at most," or your example, "most of." Many means some amount that happened more than once, or a prediction, based on some observation. The two words mean drastically different concepts. You need to appologize to Cheesy for being a troll, or admit you're a loser who knows nothing. I'm not going to comment on your other bullshit statements.
With regard to the black kid, that's sad, however, you take your victim as you find them. More than being black, he was likely poor and therefor had no chance in our legal system, it's all about money. The state has unlimited resources with which to prosecute a defendant. The state provides very little resources for the public defender.
The rich don't get special treatment from the legal system by and large, but they can afford to put up a defense, which more often than you might think can get a guilty person off of the charges they face.
I don't disagree with the judges decision. I have more of a problem with the sentence she handed to the black kid than her allowing this white drunk kid to walk.
Sending this kid to prison will do nothing to help the victims or their families. Our system has decided to call itself the "correctional system."
What exactly would sending this kid to prison for years correct? If anything needs correcting, it is more likely to get corrected at a rehab than a state prison.
Intent matters, though. While on the face of it what the white kid did seems worse, but legally it isn't. The white kid was drunk, and acting with no intent to harm 4 people died from his actions.
The black kid, although "only punching" someone, took an action that intended to harm another human being, the results of his volitional act was the death of his victim.
Under law, a volitional act with intent to harm which results in death is worse than an accident, regardless of the results of that accident.
We don't know if that black kid was an honor roll student who had never been in trouble, or maybe he was a violent, gang-affiliated inner city youth with a record of trouble. We just don't know, but the judge who handed down the sentence did.
The rich don't get special treatment from the legal system by and large, but they can afford to put up a defense, which more often than you might think can get a guilty person off of the charges they face.
I don't disagree with the judges decision. I have more of a problem with the sentence she handed to the black kid than her allowing this white drunk kid to walk.
Sending this kid to prison will do nothing to help the victims or their families. Our system has decided to call itself the "correctional system."
What exactly would sending this kid to prison for years correct? If anything needs correcting, it is more likely to get corrected at a rehab than a state prison.
Intent matters, though. While on the face of it what the white kid did seems worse, but legally it isn't. The white kid was drunk, and acting with no intent to harm 4 people died from his actions.
The black kid, although "only punching" someone, took an action that intended to harm another human being, the results of his volitional act was the death of his victim.
Under law, a volitional act with intent to harm which results in death is worse than an accident, regardless of the results of that accident.
We don't know if that black kid was an honor roll student who had never been in trouble, or maybe he was a violent, gang-affiliated inner city youth with a record of trouble. We just don't know, but the judge who handed down the sentence did.
Kanaplya
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People get stoned to death in the Middle East all the time...
UncleBuck
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the white supremacist weighs in again, proving his stupidity beyond all doubts.
ASMALLVOICE
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Just between you and me, I think you get sexually stimulated every time you call someone a supremacist or for that matter, type the word racist.
Or.......maybe you and cheesy have an on going bet to see who can call the most users a racist in a certain time frame, hell I have no idea.
Your lack of vision is some entertaining shit to watch. If the politics section is a village, then you are damn sure the idiot to represent said village.
Congratulations....I guess......
Peace
Asmallvoice
UncleBuck
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eloquent defense of white supremacists. you must be proud of yourself, sticking up for the white supremacists and all.Just between you and me, I think you get sexually stimulated every time you call someone a supremacist or for that matter, type the word racist.
Or.......maybe you and cheesy have an on going bet to see who can call the most users a racist in a certain time frame, hell I have no idea.
Your lack of vision is some entertaining shit to watch. If the politics section is a village, then you are damn sure the idiot to represent said village.
Congratulations....I guess......
Peace
Asmallvoice
ASMALLVOICE
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LMAO, did you have a multiple whilst typing that............................what a complete and utter lame duck you are. Keep up this pace and they will make you captain of the Olympic underwater bb stacking team.
Peace
Asmallvoice
UncleBuck
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just pointing out that you felt the need to come to the defense of an admitted white supremacist for some reason.
sorry that makes you so angry.