UncleBuck
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in each one of the stabbing incidents he refers to, no one died and the perp got caught.
those three lies came within 20 minutes of each other.
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those three lies came within 20 minutes of each other.
ginwilly
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Blaming Bush for something that is directly related to the FDA is not really an answer though. It's just partisan idiocy.
Now if Bush had created the FDA, you would have a point. Why didn't the ACA take care of the Bush stink in your opinion? Because... republicans!!?
UncleBuck
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you poor little partisan. when will we just learn to leave your beloved hero alone?
Rob Roy
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you do it to yourself by insisting we need to return to a time before civil rights existed where black people were very harmed by the practices of backwards racists like you.
Wrong again. I'm not saying people should do anything, but leave each other alone and associate with each other on a peaceful and voluntary basis if all parties agree or avoid each other if they cannot.
YOU are the one advocating forced non-consensual associations and thinking you are on the moral high ground.
UncleBuck
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no one is forced to open a store that is open to the public, racist roy.
that is completely voluntary.
you advocate relegalizing discrimination on the basis of skin color. that is not peaceful.
Rob Roy
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Is anybody forced to associate in your model? Why yes they are. THAT is not peaceful. If it is, please explain how.
No, I advocate consensual interactions if all parties agree. If they don't , I don't advocate one party making another person interact with them, rapists do though don't they?
Legal means nothing to me. It was once legal to own other people, obviously that was a dumb idea in my book. What you are advocating has aspects that LESSEN a persons self ownership rather than increasing it. You are advancing to some degree a slavery argument. I am not.
I'll have to bow out now, but please do continue to be irrational and illogical in your special way without me. Nighty night Poopy Pants.
UncleBuck
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no, because no one is ever forced to open a business that serves the public.
declare victory now.
ChesusRice
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The Bush administration and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) have blocked action on import legislation, even as 77 percent of Americans surveyed in a poll released yesterday said they support changing the law.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2434-2005Apr19.html?nav=rss_politics/congress
ginwilly
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You post an article from 9 years ago as your proof that drugs cost more because of Bush? Wow, even for you wow.
Can you think of any laws passed since then regarding health care and pharmaceuticals that could have changed it?
NLXSK1
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No, you explained why it couldnt be imported. If it can be manufactured somewhere else for $100 how much could it cost to manufacture here?
One of the problems is the monopoly system in medicine and no competition in pricing.
ginwilly
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We have big pharma execs sitting on the FDA. We have politicians lining pockets with pharma stock. What we end up getting is laws that state;
You are not allowed to purchase medicine from foreign third world countries like Canada even though they are just as effective at a fraction of the cost. You must instead purchase drugs from an American company (made in Malaysia).
In fact, it's not just that insurance won't cover them, we've actually made it illegal. But the FDA has our best interests at heart.
ChesusRice
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It's manufactured here and exported to other countries. Were it is sold for less. But we cannot reimport it here at the cheaper price thanks to Bush Et al
July 26, 2003|By Nick Anderson | Nick Anderson,LOS ANGELES TIMES
WASHINGTON - Despite the House's surprisingly easy passage early yesterday of a bill to let U.S. consumers buy lower-cost prescription drugs from other countries, the measure's opponents - including the Bush administration - seem to have built a solid bipartisan wall in the Senate to thwart it.
NLXSK1
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The first 2 years of the Obama presidency also had the house and senate majority as Democrats.
Why didnt they solve this?
And why do you think I care what the Republican party does or doesnt do?
I want healthcare to be treated like any other commodity. Which means if you want insurance you have to pay for it yourself.
UncleBuck
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because you whine and cry constantly if anyone dares to criticize your darling republican heroes.
ChesusRice
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They had 76 days of full control
Why do you continuosly spew this lie over and over again?
You are retarded arent you
ChesusRice
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Healthcare is not like any other commodity
To treat it as such would mean only those with means would be able to have health care and the others would simply not.
A country is only as good as it's citizens are healthy. National Security relies on a healthy populace
ginwilly
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Let's state for the sake of argument that it was all Bush's fault even though it's been that way long before he came along.
Why do you support the ACA when it clearly entrenches these idiotic cost increasing measures?
NLXSK1
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Really?
A car is a commodity. The wealthy can own mazzerati's and Ferrari's. The poor can afford Hundai's or use mass transportation.
A house is a commodity. The wealthy can own multi-million dollar mansions but the middle class can still afford housing and the poor can get subsidies or free housing.
Why do we suddenly believe that everyone can have top level healthcare for free?? Where does all the money come from??
Healthcare is a commodity. You can spend millions upon millions of dollars upon it if you choose to... But not everyone can.
NLXSK1
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Why didnt the Democrats fix it?? They had control of the house, senate and presidency for two years.
You seem to think it was important so why didnt Obama?
ChesusRice
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They seem to do it in the rest of the industrial world just fine