AG Garland appoints special counsel

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It ain't like Jack is gonna be burning shoe leather and grilling congress people under lights personally FFS, he can do his administrative job anywhere there is a secure phone and internet connection, even from home recovering from a broken leg. The J6 investigation is still largely in the FBI's ballpark with grand jury testimony, jack sits at the top of a pyramid with lot's of supervisors, teams and prosecutors under him. The Mar a Largo case might be ready to go soon however and I imagine he would want to be around personally before the indictments drop on king shit for the documents and obstruction.

I wonder how that will play out in the GOP house as Donald reaches out for support from that bunch of nervous cutthroats in his hour of need... Donald will go down screaming and freaking out, but he might not do much of it in public if the judge jails him on indictment pending trial. At least the republicans will hope they do, because Donald will expect their support and the worse the magats in congress are the more they count on Donald's backing. However there's the problem of Jack and J6, where most of them may have crossed the line already.

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Special Counsel Jack Smith returns to U.S. following recovery.

MSNBC talking head just said Special Counsel Jack Smith has got to get to know his staff and who he can count on (trust). Does this mean he’s not even met his staff. Too many questions about how the DOJ is managing the investigations into tfg. This is...
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Documents and obstruction first, it's the low hanging fruit and will scare the living shit out of the rest of the magats before they are indicted. I can't see J6 indictments soon, but the documents case seems ready to go.


Jack Smith ARRIVES in Washington DC

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Special Counsel Jack Smith arriving in Washington DC and what impact that will have on the timing of his charging decisions.
 
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Special Counsel Jack Smith puts together aggressive & experienced Trump prosecution team

39,770 views Jan 6, 2023 #TeamJustice
New reporting from CNN trumpets, "Two years after US Capitol attack, investigation into Trump and insurrection enters new phase." Reporting by Bloomberg assures us that, "Trump's Troubles Mount as Special Counsel Gets New 2020 Evidence." Though the skeptical among us can rightly ask, 'haven't we heard claims like this before?'

Americans have hero fatigue. First, Special Counsel Robert Mueller was going to be the one to hold Trump accountable for his crimes. When that didn't happen, those who cared about the rule of law and the health of our democracy were counting on Attorney General Merrick Garland to indict Trump for his obvious and provable crimes. Still, no charges were forthcoming.

Now, the American people are being assured that newly appointed Special Counsel Jack Smith is the right person to hold Trump accountable. Skepticism and discontent grow as month-after-month, neither Trump nor a single member of the ruling class criminals have suffered a single, solitary minute of accountability.

This video discusses where we have been, why there have been no indictments to date of the command structure of the insurrection, and why, just because indictments haven't come yet is not a sufficient reasons to conclude that indictments will never come for Trump and his coconspirators.
 
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Trump indictment for Mar-a-Lago documents coming "soon," attorney predicts

Former federal prosecutor Cynthia Alksne said Saturday that the classified documents case is "easy prosecution" for the DOJ.
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Trump Indictment for Mar-a-Lago Documents Coming 'Soon,' Attorney Predicts
Donald Trump may "soon" be indicted in the Department of Justice's (DOJ) probe into whether or not he improperly stored classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago residence, according to former federal prosecutor Cynthia Alksne.

The former president has been accused of improperly removing dozens of classified documents from the White House before leaving office in 2021. Last August, the FBI seized the documents from Mar-a-Lago, turning the investigation public, though many details remain limited. Trump, however, has maintained his innocence.

Trump, who is again running in the 2024 presidential race, is facing several investigations into his conduct as president—including his business dealings and actions surrounding the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot—he is yet to face any formal charges or indictments as investigators work to solidify their cases.

However, Alksne, who works as an MSNBC legal analyst, suggested that could soon change during an appearance on The Katie Phang Show on Saturday. She said she believes the DOJ could indict the former president "soon," saying she hopes this would happen before the spring.

"Well, I would guess that one is going to come pretty soon. I mean, let's face it—that's an easy prosecution," she said. "You stole the documents. We're asking for them. We ask you 'pretty please.' You said 'no.' You lied about it. You move them, and then we found them."

Alksne said the case could likely be prosecuted "at any time," but the DOJ still has work to do to craft its strongest argument, including fully identifying obstruction allegedly committed by Trump's team.

"They also have to figure out, now that they have the documents, were they shared with anybody and what exactly happened with them," Alksne added. "And that may take some time."

Gene Rossi, also a former federal prosecutor, told Newsweek on Saturday that while he believes the Mar-a-Lago investigation is the most likely Trump probe to yield an indictment "relatively soon," he said he's not sure exactly when that would be.

"Although a mere mortal and average citizen would have been justly charged last summer, I do not believe that the alleged Mar-a-Lago charges will be revealed so quickly after Jack Smith arrived physically in the States. However, those charges will highly likely be presented this year to a grand jury," Rossi said.

He agreed that the Mar-a-Lago investigation has the potential to be an easy win for prosecutors, adding that Trump handled top secret documents "like a lottery ticket."

"I think it would be a prosecutor's dream to present that to a trial jury," he said. "I think the evidence is very strong about his willfulness, his recklessness and his deliberate ignorance."

Latest Updates in Trump Mar-a-Lago Investigation
A federal judge sided with the DOJ this week, ordering Trump to turn over the names of private investigators he hired to search for classified documents across his properties, according to a report from The New York Times.

Last month, Trump faced more legal pressure in the case after investigators alleged he was in possession of more classified documents that were found in a Florida storage unit. Former U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said at the time that he opened the country to "grave harm" by allegedly not turning over every document.

Trump has said he did not need to go through a formal declassification process and that he could declassify documents by just thinking about it, though experts view this claim as legally dubious.

Newsweek reached out to Alksne and Trump's office for further comment.
 
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Mark's main problem with the burnt documents is that most of them were created using computers and unless you use special security software, it is difficult to remove data from a hard drive, a solid state drive is even harder. To do so would have been a deliberate act and to do it after J6 could be obstruction of justice. For instance that coup plan document the my pillow guy was photographed carrying at the WH, where is it? So it is reasonable to assume that the FBI has or can recover many deleted files and messages from phones and computers, or fragments of them. Some of the documents were created on government computers and there are off site back ups that can't be deleted and any IT professional would know they would end up in prison if they tried.

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How many times did Meadows burn docs in a White House fireplace?

Documents from the Trump White House are already damning on a historic scale. But what about the materials that Mark Meadows literally set on fire?
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Special Counsel Jack Smith puts together aggressive & experienced Trump prosecution team

39,770 views Jan 6, 2023 #TeamJustice
New reporting from CNN trumpets, "Two years after US Capitol attack, investigation into Trump and insurrection enters new phase." Reporting by Bloomberg assures us that, "Trump's Troubles Mount as Special Counsel Gets New 2020 Evidence." Though the skeptical among us can rightly ask, 'haven't we heard claims like this before?'

Americans have hero fatigue. First, Special Counsel Robert Mueller was going to be the one to hold Trump accountable for his crimes. When that didn't happen, those who cared about the rule of law and the health of our democracy were counting on Attorney General Merrick Garland to indict Trump for his obvious and provable crimes. Still, no charges were forthcoming.

Now, the American people are being assured that newly appointed Special Counsel Jack Smith is the right person to hold Trump accountable. Skepticism and discontent grow as month-after-month, neither Trump nor a single member of the ruling class criminals have suffered a single, solitary minute of accountability.

This video discusses where we have been, why there have been no indictments to date of the command structure of the insurrection, and why, just because indictments haven't come yet is not a sufficient reasons to conclude that indictments will never come for Trump and his coconspirators.
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When I hear him say “it HAS to happen!” what that tells me is that it’s not happening, and its happening is very much not assured. Fuck hero fatigue with a rock drill. I’ve got horizon fatigue. It’s been on the horizon fifty times, like practical fusion or a cancer cure.

Why hasn’t even a lieutenant been indicted? (and not made a deal for mama-hugging immunity)

If the Mueller report really does contain the stuff of conviction, why wasn’t it brought to bear once DOJ was disBarred? Something rotten in Denmark.

I wanna stop hearing about an endless convergent series of suggestive increment. It’s embarrassing.

They haven’t even searched that man’s other properties when probable cause is beyond any question. Someone is obstructing. Who, and how?

Was Garland’s impassioned speech about the primacy of the rule of law a decoy?

where is Fani Willis’s indictment on a sure thing of more manageable scope? It can’t be this hard.

It’s been over two years of inaction in a situation where any ordinary citizen would already be serving consecutive life sentences.

Harumph and sulfurous invective.
 
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When I hear him say “it HAS to happen!” what that tells me is that it’s not happening, and its happening is very much not assured. Fuck hero fatigue with a rock drill. I’ve got horizon fatigue. It’s been on the horizon fifty times, like practical fusion or a cancer cure.

Why hasn’t even a lieutenant been indicted? (and not made a deal for mama-hugging immunity)

If the Mueller report really does contain the stuff of conviction, why wasn’t it brought to bear once DOJ was disBarred? Something rotten in Denmark.

I wanna stop hearing about an endless convergent series of suggestive increment. It’s embarrassing.

They haven’t even searched that man’s other properties when probable cause is beyond any question. Someone is obstructing. Who, and how?

Was Garland’s impassioned speech about the primacy of the rule of law a decoy?

where is Fani Willis’s indictment on a sure thing of more manageable scope? It can’t be this hard.

It’s been over two years of inaction in a situation where any ordinary citizen would already be serving consecutive life sentences.

Harumph and sulfurous invective.
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One can only hope they are building a massive conspiracy case over J6 involving politicians too. I think we will see Trump indicted over the documents first and depending on what Mark Meadows does in that case, will determine the extent of the conspiracy cases against others in the states, WH and congress. Seriously, in order for it all to work they had to have help from inside congress and the senate too to delay certification and use fake electors, they are guilty as sin.

Expect delays over J6, 2023 for the underlings, cronies and the WH bunch and 2024 for congress people, right when it counts the most, an election year. As for Mar a Largo, the experts say a few weeks to a couple of months, Jack apparently has a lot of new evidence to digest from several sources and wants the list of those who searched the place for Trump, which a court recently granted.
 
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One can only hope they are building a massive conspiracy case over J6 involving politicians too. I think we will see Trump indicted over the documents first and depending on what Mark Meadows does in that case, will determine the extent of the conspiracy cases against others in the states, WH and congress. Seriously, in order for it all to work they had to have help from inside congress and the senate too to delay certification and use fake electors, they are guilty as sin.

Expect delays over J6, 2023 for the underlings, cronies and the WH bunch and 2024 for congress people, right when it counts the most, an election year. As for Mar a Largo, the experts say a few weeks to a couple of months, Jack apparently has a lot of new evidence to digest from several sources and wants the list of those who searched the place for Trump, which a court recently granted.
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sorry, no and no.
 
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Jack doesn't look like he's wasting his time and neither do the lawyers he lured away from lucrative private practices. They don't seem the type to preside over a failed investigation with the assholes at the top getting away. It might have taken some time, but the time is at hand soon methinks. Either Jack will indict him or Georgia will, but Jack gets first crack, if he wants it, trials in Georgia are on TV, federal trials are not.


Jack Smith Assembles DREAM TEAM of Lawyers to TAKE DOWN Trump

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Special Counsel Jack Smith hiring the top lawyers for his legal “dream team” for the criminal investigation of Trump.
 
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DIY-HP-LED said:
Jack doesn't look like he's wasting his time and neither do the lawyers he lured away from lucrative private practices. They don't seem the type to preside over a failed investigation with the assholes at the top getting away. It might have taken some time, but the time is at hand soon methinks. Either Jack will indict him or Georgia will, but Jack gets first crack, if he wants it, trials in Georgia are on TV, federal trials are not.


Jack Smith Assembles DREAM TEAM of Lawyers to TAKE DOWN Trump

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Special Counsel Jack Smith hiring the top lawyers for his legal “dream team” for the criminal investigation of Trump.
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maybe Michigan or Georgia prosecuting some people will remind Garland what the fuck his job is...
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Georgia is more than about Trump with a 2 year felony, it has expanded into the fake electors and Trump, it will be a conspiracy case, a much more serious crime as well as election interference. All these state elector cases involve actors in the WH, so that should spur some action by the DOJ. The DOJ are beginning to feel the heat, now that the congress is settled for a spell and that heat will becoming from the new congress too, as the guilty try and abuse power to get away with their crimes.

Action soon, or a public reaction and concern from Joe and if he has to go so far as to say anything, there will be trouble inside the DOJ. Garland will act as will Jack, or their reputations will die on the altar to the God Trump, like judge Canon and so many lawyers that one can hardly keep count.
 
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Mark's main problem with the burnt documents is that most of them were created using computers and unless you use special security software, it is difficult to remove data from a hard drive, a solid state drive is even harder. To do so would have been a deliberate act and to do it after J6 could be obstruction of justice. For instance that coup plan document the my pillow guy was photographed carrying at the WH, where is it? So it is reasonable to assume that the FBI has or can recover many deleted files and messages from phones and computers, or fragments of them. Some of the documents were created on government computers and there are off site back ups that can't be deleted and any IT professional would know they would end up in prison if they tried.

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How many times did Meadows burn docs in a White House fireplace?

Documents from the Trump White House are already damning on a historic scale. But what about the materials that Mark Meadows literally set on fire?
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How are there any problems with documents that meadows "allegedly" burned? The fact that he burned anything has not been proven. She said he did this and that is not proof. Then if these documents did exist what if they were hand written? Then what computers were these documents created on? You don't know for sure that they even existed so how do you know they were created on government computers? If they existed they could have been created on any computer, in the cloud with free microsoft or google apps or one of many other sources.

The FBI can't just go around seizing computers to look for copies of these documents that were allegedly burned.

I say this because some of you are getting way too ahead of things without thinking about the reality of the processes that have to take place before you can get to that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Have you ever gotten to the end of a rainbow?
 
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How are there any problems with documents that meadows "allegedly" burned? The fact that he burned anything has not been proven. She said he did this and that is not proof. Then if these documents did exist what if they were hand written? Then what computers were these documents created on? You don't know for sure that they even existed so how do you know they were created on government computers? If they existed they could have been created on any computer, in the cloud with free microsoft or google apps or one of many other sources.

The FBI can't just go around seizing computers to look for copies of these documents that were allegedly burned.

I say this because some of you are getting way too ahead of things without thinking about the reality of the processes that have to take place before you can get to that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Have you ever gotten to the end of a rainbow?
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I tend to look down the road at future consequences using past investigations, DOJ practices and a lot of expert opinion from DOJ alumni which I post, so people can draw their own conclusions.

We haven't heard from Mark for awhile, ever since he stopped cooperating with the J6 committee and Jack likely has him by the balls a half dozen different ways. Including the Mar A largo documents case, he did help Trump to steal those documents as his chief of staff. If Mark cut a deal, his phone will lead to others and theirs to others still. As for burning documents, many were probably copies, but there is a burn bag for official stuff and most of them were probably created on a computer. As for past DOJ practices, most who went down for Watergate did so over obstruction of justice, destroying evidence or attempting to, heavy time in it's own right.

I say the Gospel of Mark will save America and send the sinners to Hell!

Prophecy is always risky business though! ;-)
 
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I tend to look down the road at future consequences using past investigations, DOJ practices and a lot of expert opinion from DOJ alumni which I post, so people can draw their own conclusions.

We haven't heard from Mark for awhile, ever since he stopped cooperating with the J6 committee and Jack likely has him by the balls a half dozen different ways. Including the Mar A largo documents case, he did help Trump to steal those documents as his chief of staff. If Mark cut a deal, his phone will lead to others and theirs to others still. As for burning documents, many were probably copies, but there is a burn bag for official stuff and most of them were probably created on a computer. As for past DOJ practices, most who went down for Watergate did so over obstruction of justice, destroying evidence or attempting to, heavy time in it's own right.

I say the Gospel of Mark will save America and send the sinners to Hell!

Prophecy is always risky business though! ;-)
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We don't even know if he burned any documents. Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. That young ladies only objective was to make herself look good. She would say anything and appear to cooperate fully to achieve that goal. She's looking down the road and trying to mitigate the consequences for being associated with the maga administration. cassidy hutchinson said he burned documents. Nobody else has said that. If meadows is asked all he has to do is say no he didn't and that's the end of that.

You're taking testimony from a maga as fact in one instance and call them all liars the rest of the time. Why do you believe what she said?
 
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We don't even know if he burned any documents. Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. That young ladies only objective was to make herself look good. She would say anything and appear to cooperate fully to achieve that goal. She's looking down the road and trying to mitigate the consequences for being associated with the maga administration. cassidy hutchinson said he burned documents. Nobody else has said that. If meadows is asked all he has to do is say no he didn't and that's the end of that.

You're taking testimony from a maga as fact in one instance and call them all liars the rest of the time. Why do you believe what she said?
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You are imputing motives to her that are unsupported by evidence, by all reports she was a credible witness and will probably be again, this time in court. She testified under oath, Mark Meadows could have come and refuted what she said, he had the chance to do it under oath too. We only know about her testimony, the DOJ has many more levers. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens with Mark, will he take a sweet deal or go die in federal prison. If he cut a deal with Jack SOP is he confesses to ALL his crimes pleads guilty to a reduced set and has to tell of any crimes by others he has knowledge off. Once one person or two in a conspiracy with receipts and other evidence pleads, the others are screwed.

What happens to Mark while Trump goes down over the documents will tell us much and we should not have long to wait.
 
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Weissmann: Fani Willis probe ‘feels like an incoming, heat-seeking missile’

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Former Justice Department Prosecutor Andrew Weissmann and former U.S. attorney Barbara McQuade react to the Fulton County grand jury wrapping up its Trump election probe.
 
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Well this isn't a good look. Shaking my head.

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Classified documents from Biden's vice presidency found at think tank

Classified documents from Joe Biden's vice-presidential days were discovered in November by the U.S. president's personal attorneys at a Washington think tank, a White House lawyer said on Monday.
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Classified documents from Biden's time as vice president discovered at Penn Biden Center, White House says

A batch of records from Biden's time as Vice President, including a “small number of documents with classified markings,” were discovered at the Penn Biden Center, according to the White House.
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xtsho said:
Well this isn't a good look. Shaking my head.

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Classified documents from Biden's vice presidency found at think tank

Classified documents from Joe Biden's vice-presidential days were discovered in November by the U.S. president's personal attorneys at a Washington think tank, a White House lawyer said on Monday.
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Classified documents from Biden's time as vice president discovered at Penn Biden Center, White House says

A batch of records from Biden's time as Vice President, including a “small number of documents with classified markings,” were discovered at the Penn Biden Center, according to the White House.
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“President Biden has been very critical of President Trump mistakenly taking classified documents to the residence or wherever and now it seems he may have done the same,” said GOP Rep. James Comer of Kentucky, who is set to become the House Oversight Chairman. “How ironic.”
really? mistakenly...he mistakenly took them, and then mistakenly lied multiple times about having returned them, and FORCED the FBI to come after them...whereas Biden voluntarily turned them over when they were discovered, which he did not have to do, he could have just burned them and no one would have been the wiser...and has been cooperating since..."how ironic"...republican cocksuckers.
go on and shake your head...i guess you can't see the difference between a mistake and blatant theft, but you and the republicans are going to do their best to smear Biden, because it makes them look better than they are...better than fucking traitors to their country and their oaths of office.
better than subhuman shit.
 
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