Against legalization...

Trousers

Trousers

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2Hearts said:
You keep saying co-exist but you negate the dustruction of traditional ways over the last decade, its not my point its a hard and sad fact that there is no co-existing...

You will always be a competitor and your profit is their potential gain.

Your talking pure fantasy or isolated areas, im talking already documented evidence and you verses big corporation is not a fight the little guy can win, with weed you have a chance to even the score.

I accept what your saying but even if the little guy gets a good product 9 times out of 10 hes thinking dollar signs not how it benefits the community.

Just consider the changes the tomato industry has gone through and thats what will happen to weed, there will just be a few growers the vast majority will just shop at supermarkets.... not very dope.
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Who controls the tomato industry in the USA?
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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2Hearts said:
Our country has gone through a series of drug reclasifications, we have class A, B and C with A being heroin, coke etc and C being steroids, perscription drugs etc.

Cannabis keeps rebounding from C to B and back again depending on public and goverment opinions etc. We still treat it as a class C drug even though its a class B at present.

The general public in the Uk arent after it being legalized nor are they against small time growers or stoners being prosocuted. Generally they just want it out of sight, away from their kids and schools etc.

Keeping it illegal but relaxed seems to work for both sides with few problems, small growers in the Uk are loving it at the moment.

7+ years for one plant dosent sound like your anywhere getting close to getting legalization and sounds like a zero tolerance approach possibly you have bad drug problems or crime as thats harsh by most standards.
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Full legalization fuck all the other bullshit I can care less about big corporations I don't like Budweiser and I don't drink it. Fuck what you want I want to open my very own local coffee shop not be an underground grower looking at long prison time the day will come. But of course children like you won't make a few hundred out your mothers closet.
 
2Hearts

2Hearts

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bluntmassa1 said:
Full legalization fuck all the other bullshit I can care less about big corporations I don't like Budweiser and I don't drink it. Fuck what you want I want to open my very own local coffee shop not be an underground grower looking at long prison time the day will come. But of course children like you won't make a few hundred out your mothers closet.
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£52,000 per year from 2x1meter space in the Uk £10 a gram, 9ct gold is £9 so do the maths, id be lucky to get this after a Phd!

I like the idea of your local coffee shop, good luck when costa and the big boys park their chain across the road ;-)
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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2Hearts said:
£52,000 from 2x1meter space in the Uk £10 a gram, 9ct gold is £9 so do the maths, id be lucky to get this after a Phd!

I like the idea of your local coffee shop, good luck when costa and the big boys park their chain across the road ;-)
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The local bars do just fine when you can buy the same alcohol for a fraction of the price meanwhile nobody drinks at Applebee's.
 
2Hearts

2Hearts

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bluntmassa1 said:
The local bars do just fine when you can buy the same alcohol for a fraction of the price meanwhile nobody drinks at Applebee's.
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Well some do buck the trend but thats not the big picture, costa, neros, subway, starbucks have killed all local snack shops in most of our towns in the Uk which sadly makes little difference to public choice, they keep going there en mass.

I wish i could share peoples dream but in buisness you learn to trust no one and if you put your market in their market your just asking for it.
 
2Hearts

2Hearts

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Part of me wonders just how much of your buisness i could own, theres going to be strain patents, taxes, maximun limits, transport control....

Im mean if you legalize it im not going to bother being a grower, not when ive got the chance to now OWN my buisness. Suit tie, flash car, office and a slice of YOUR pie thank you very much.

Legalization would be great for me but i thought we did things our way just fine.
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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2Hearts said:
Well some do buck the trend but thats not the big picture, costa, neros, subway, starbucks have killed all local snack shops in most of our towns in the Uk which sadly makes little difference to public choice, they keep going there en mass.

I wish i could share peoples dream but in buisness you learn to trust no one and if you put your market in their market your just asking for it.
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I never been to Starbucks and I like my subs better at the local pizza shop and the local Chinese restaurant is the best I ever had. Your complaint is about douche bags that shop in malls and buy the new IPhone not the average man the corporations will wet their beaks but so won't anyone who takes it there is plenty money to go around.
 
2Hearts

2Hearts

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bluntmassa1 said:
I never been to Starbucks and I like my subs better at the local pizza shop and the local Chinese restaurant is the best I ever had. Your complaint is about douche bags that shop in malls and buy the new IPhone not the average man the corporations will wet their beaks but so won't anyone who takes it there is plenty money to go around.
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Hopefully i am wrong and things turn out ok. I wont have these problems in the Uk for a long time yet. At least we here can watch what happens before we make any descion.
 
Trousers

Trousers

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2Hearts said:
Um this one in particular, do you need me to copy and paste others?!
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Legalization has already had a negative effect on my state and we aren't even legal. Our prices have dropped due to Colorado being so close to us. There is a lot of weed from Colorado in my state and it has drove prices down.
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Lower prices is a bad thing?

I can't speak for the UK, but all the shit you described is not going to happen here.
There are too many growers like myself.

Plant patents are difficult to obtain."A plant patent is granted by the Government to an inventor (or the inventor's heirs or assigns) who has invented or discovered and asexually reproduced a distinct and new variety of plant, other than a tuber propagated plant or a plant found in an uncultivated state."
I have thousands of seeds in my basement. My friends have thousands of seeds. I bet we are not the only ones.

The movement in the USA is to regulate cannabis like alcohol. Allowing personal growing is common in medical states.

Recreational and medical cannabis in Colorado is in the state constitution. It is not going to change. I have the right to grow 3 flowering and 3 immature plants in my house for every adult that resides there over the age of 21, period. That does not even include medical.

If you can someday get weed at corner stores legally, great. I'll stick with mine, it is much better.

Someday I would like to be able to go into a store and custom make a variety of weed and walk out with a growable tissue sample. That would be sick.
 
ODanksta

ODanksta

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Texas almost passed a law earlier this year that actually won 5-2 until some dumbass named Todd Christy or some shit didn't sign for it. The bill stated that cannabis was a religious freedom that people should have without government interference. Stating it should be regulated the same as any other veggies or fruits.

This guy was on to something... Duh?

instead we got only 3 places that can only sell CBD extracts in the whole god damn state of Texas by 2017


but it's not stopping us
 
2Hearts

2Hearts

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Trousers said:
Lower prices is a bad thing?

I can't speak for the UK, but all the shit you described is not going to happen here.
There are too many growers like myself.

Plant patents are difficult to obtain."A plant patent is granted by the Government to an inventor (or the inventor's heirs or assigns) who has invented or discovered and asexually reproduced a distinct and new variety of plant, other than a tuber propagated plant or a plant found in an uncultivated state."
I have thousands of seeds in my basement. My friends have thousands of seeds. I bet we are not the only ones.

The movement in the USA is to regulate cannabis like alcohol. Allowing personal growing is common in medical states.

Recreational and medical cannabis in Colorado is in the state constitution. It is not going to change. I have the right to grow 3 flowering and 3 immature plants in my house for every adult that resides there over the age of 21, period. That does not even include medical.

If you can someday get weed at corner stores legally, great. I'll stick with mine, it is much better.

Someday I would like to be able to go into a store and custom make a variety of weed and walk out with a growable tissue sample. That would be sick.
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People arent pateting strains yet but some are conducting genetic analysis to gurantee certain canibinol strains, they disrepute seed banks saying their genetics arent good and are hoping their gurantee of strain will bring all the custom them. You might get your wish soon as these vultures have big plans to spin a buck from your weed.

It wouldnt be such a bad thing if Dj Short or Ben was doing it but not these money hungry bloodsuckers. My seeds come from a company that was started for the diversity and love of weed not just for profit.
 
2Hearts

2Hearts

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ODanksta said:
Texas almost passed a law earlier this year that actually won 5-2 until some dumbass named Todd Christy or some shit didn't sign for it. The bill stated that cannabis was a religious freedom that people should have without government interference. Stating it should be regulated the same as any other veggies or fruits.

This guy was on to something... Duh?

instead we got only 3 places that can only sell CBD extracts in the whole god damn state of Texas by 2017


but it's not stopping us
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The British goverment shows tolerance to religions that have historically used weed, the list is short and you cant do it in public but if you have proof your a true Rastafari then the judge will show leniency. Documentary evidence of religious status is required.
 
ODanksta

ODanksta

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2Hearts said:
The British goverment shows tolerance to religions that have historically used weed, the list is short and you cant do it in public but if you have proof your a true Rastafari then the judge will show leniency. Documentary evidence of religious status is required.
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well that seems easy
 
Trousers

Trousers

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2Hearts said:
People arent pateting strains yet but some are conducting genetic analysis to gurantee certain canibinol strains, they disrepute seed banks saying their genetics arent good and are hoping their gurantee of strain will bring all the custom them. You might get your wish soon as these vultures have big plans to spin a buck from your weed.

It wouldnt be such a bad thing if Dj Short or Ben was doing it but not these money hungry bloodsuckers. My seeds come from a company that was started for the diversity and love of weed not just for profit.
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You are precious.
Who is doing genetic analysis?
How are they going to patent them?
Where are they going to patent them?
Disrepute is a noun.

That whole sentence is really fucking stupid.
Talking shit, on seed banks will not do a thing. I know if genetics are good or not. Where is this happening?
"hoping their gurantee of strain will bring all the custom them"

What the fuck does that mean?
What the fuck are the vultures doing?

Your rambling and incoherent diatribe is straight ludicrous.

I am sure that this narrative sounds good as you make it up it in your head, but can you offer anything to back it up?
My seeds come from a company that hates gays, kittens and steak, but their genetics are amazing.

Kick back with a nice Howard Zinn book, fire up a fatty and put on some Rage Against the Machine. Every thing will be okay.
 
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