Agent's 2nd Organic Grow- Pineapple Chunk, LSD, Euforia 200wCFL/600HPS

Hemlock

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You know Agent a this stage I might scrap that PC....Just breeds inscets and bad mold...Just .02 cents,,,,, pence???

The one thats really steched out,,, should have topped it. Pushed all the hormones to the bottom. Can't do it now though.
Can you tie the euphoria back any??
 

Agent Provocateur

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You know Agent a this stage I might scrap that PC....Just breeds inscets and bad mold...Just .02 cents,,,,, pence???

The one thats really steched out,,, should have topped it. Pushed all the hormones to the bottom. Can't do it now though.
Can you tie the euphoria back any??
Scrap one of the PC's? u mean the WW weedling? the Pc's are front and right and LST'd- the WW has always looked a bit 'floppy' but it hangs in there- perhaps it because i refuse to treat it any differently to the other plants lol :D dw im keeping an eye on it- not particularly interested in it- but even so it may give me somethin extra when everything else has been chopped- ill see how it goes- doesnt look rotten lol



The euforia u can spot on a few pics as being the most bushy and tightest node and last time i tried to tie it back a bit it 'cracked' at the fim point so had to tape it up- the buds are so tight on it and spiraling up the stem im worried if i do it again it will damage it again- just no give:(

wondering if pruning is way forward with a squat plant?


Yeah i know i should have topped- they were well behind in size before hol and when i came back they were stretched and flowering -so missed the boat unfrt lol- anyway i did say no OMG its stretched lol..... i know :P those 2 plants wernt the main focus - just bonuses :D
 

Hemlock

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Scrap one of the PC's? u mean the WW weedling? the Pc's are front and right and LST'd- the WW has always looked a bit 'floppy' but it hangs in there- perhaps it because i refuse to treat it any differently to the other plants lol :D dw im keeping an eye on it- not particularly interested in it- but even so it may give me somethin extra when everything else has been chopped- ill see how it goes- doesnt look rotten lol



The euforia u can spot on a few pics as being the most bushy and tightest node and last time i tried to tie it back a bit it 'cracked' at the fim point so had to tape it up- the buds are so tight on it and spiraling up the stem im worried if i do it again it will damage it again- just no give:(

wondering if pruning is way forward with a squat plant?


Yeah i know i should have topped- they were well behind in size before hol and when i came back they were stretched and flowering -so missed the boat unfrt lol- anyway i did say no OMG its stretched lol..... i know :P those 2 plants wernt the main focus - just bonuses :D


I was wrong,,Yeah the one you said the WW weedling..
I just started doing the Uncle bens topping technique, Very cool and ya get 4 colas..wish I still had the link but it was here thst I read about it.
That euphoria sounds like it would have been a good mother....
 

Agent Provocateur

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I was wrong,,Yeah the one you said the WW weedling..
I just started doing the Uncle bens topping technique, Very cool and ya get 4 colas..wish I still had the link but it was here thst I read about it.
That euphoria sounds like it would have been a good mother....

Funny you should say that because i was thinking exactly that about the euforia myself... so far as to say im going to try an reveg her after harvest. The fact that by some kind of miracle , she hasnt got one nute burned or paling leaf up to date unlike the others, so im thinking if it carrys on this way, and the plant is resonably healthy at the end i will leave some foliage at the bottom and start again
 

Serious Weeds

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my Pineapple chunk did the same thing with the v-ing of the leafs. And get this week 11 and they still have some time to go.
 

Agent Provocateur

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oh good god week 11! lol yep i have been visiting your grow for comparrison, yours are looking great- seems im in for a longer wait than anticipated :( Im wondering whether somehow i've got mixed up on my seeds at some point- my 2 Pineapple chunks look very different from each other even the leaf colour and leaf size, one is frosty one is not?? whereas what i thought was an LSD looks like one of the PC's ah well it will all get treated the same after harvest i.e Smoked lol. Im glad to see someone else is having ' V-ing' of the leaves- its a mystery not pH, not light not nutes lol- its happening to just the 'Frosty ' one. I just want a remote control for my plants now and to be able to press the fast forward button to get to harvest lol- yep im a very impatient woman lol :D


Agent xx
 

Hemlock

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oh good god week 11! lol yep i have been visiting your grow for comparrison, yours are looking great- seems im in for a longer wait than anticipated :( Im wondering whether somehow i've got mixed up on my seeds at some point- my 2 Pineapple chunks look very different from each other even the leaf colour and leaf size, one is frosty one is not?? whereas what i thought was an LSD looks like one of the PC's ah well it will all get treated the same after harvest i.e Smoked lol. Im glad to see someone else is having ' V-ing' of the leaves- its a mystery not pH, not light not nutes lol- its happening to just the 'Frosty ' one. I just want a remote control for my plants now and to be able to press the fast forward button to get to harvest lol- yep im a very impatient woman lol :D


Agent xx
Don't we all Agent....
 

Agent Provocateur

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ok so plants are about 4-5 weeks since sex ( some slightly less) and im having some deficiencies come to light with namely the more mature plants. The pineapple chunks are paling, particularly near to the bottom where they are seemingly turning a yellowish hue with a few (necrotic?) spots on the leaves- the stems and petrioles are redish so im think potassium? On the other hand my LSD's and euforia have an opposing problem in that they are super green- so much so i almost missed a purpling happening to the older leaves so im guessing Phosphorous with these ones. I thought i was feeding enough nutes in the form of 1 ml grow , 4 mls bloom and a good dose of molasses on top- i was wrong- or so it seems. Run off pH is around 6.2-6.5 so im thinking that is ok in soil so im wondering what to do about these deficiencies before they get worse. I've left the Bio grow out of tonights feed and added an extra ml of bloom in its place but i doubt thats gonna do much- but its more than what the feeding schedule says so hmmm........ Anyone know what to do? Is there an organic way i can get more phosphorous and pottasium into my plants without any adverse effects?

Many thanks

Agent xxx
 

slowergrower

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ok so plants are about 4-5 weeks since sex ( some slightly less) and im having some deficiencies come to light with namely the more mature plants. The pineapple chunks are paling, particularly near to the bottom where they are seemingly turning a yellowish hue with a few (necrotic?) spots on the leaves- the stems and petrioles are redish so im think potassium? On the other hand my LSD's and euforia have an opposing problem in that they are super green- so much so i almost missed a purpling happening to the older leaves so im guessing Phosphorous with these ones. I thought i was feeding enough nutes in the form of 1 ml grow , 4 mls bloom and a good dose of molasses on top- i was wrong- or so it seems. Run off pH is around 6.2-6.5 so im thinking that is ok in soil so im wondering what to do about these deficiencies before they get worse. I've left the Bio grow out of tonights feed and added an extra ml of bloom in its place but i doubt thats gonna do much- but its more than what the feeding schedule says so hmmm........ Anyone know what to do? Is there an organic way i can get more phosphorous and pottasium into my plants without any adverse effects?

Many thanks

Agent xxx


without a doubt agent the best way to give the plants more organic phosphorous is using powderd bat guano...make a tea with it 2 spoons in 1 pint of warm water.... then use 15ml of the tea in a litre of water....or the other way is to sprinkle it on top of your soil and just water it through although this takes longer for the plant to absorb it.......i swear by the stuff its also an excellent soil conditioner....the best stuff to use is called vintage bat guano by feed soil 1KG tub (ebay best bet)

 

Agent Provocateur

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Thanks for replying, i'll look into gettin some off ebay........and the potassium? i have sulphate of pottash but unsure of how to use it lol just a few teaspoons onto top of pots and water in or mix it in water as a feed?

thanks
 

Hemlock

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Thanks for replying, i'll look into gettin some off ebay........and the potassium? i have sulphate of pottash but unsure of how to use it lol just a few teaspoons onto top of pots and water in or mix it in water as a feed?

thanks
either way Agent...how are you today Agent??
 

Hemlock

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Not sure if its organic though- know any good organic PK boosters lol? Im ok i guess, fed up of the lack of daylight hours over here atm!!! i need some sun!!!!!!! lol - darkness= depressing lol:D
Sunny and 82 here..I know it gets better somewhere, I just haven't been there yet..LOL
But we don't have the change of season like you do,,...Its just sunny here..
 

slowergrower

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Thanks for replying, i'll look into gettin some off ebay........and the potassium? i have sulphate of pottash but unsure of how to use it lol just a few teaspoons onto top of pots and water in or mix it in water as a feed?

thanks

the bat guano is 100% organic else i wouldnt use it...... it has got patassium in it the NPK is 3:10:2 but if ya want to add more then yeah just sprinkle the pottash on soil and water it through
 

slowergrower

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I've been looking online for bat guano when i came across this - will this cover my probs do you think?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/B-A-C-ORGANIC-PK-FLOWER-BOOSTER-500ML-/280591225163?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN&hash=item41548a514b

The PK levels dont exactly blow you away but on top of my bloom nutes it may supplement what they are obviously lacking, and in a liquid it might get to them quicker?
yeah that seems ok if you think its worth a punt?
 

Agent Provocateur

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i bought the stuff along with some 'bloom' as im running low- its bloody freezing here atm and although i run my light time at night to try to compensate im firmly believing this sub zero weather is causing my problems to be worse. The Sont-t seems to run with next to no excessive heat ( unlike my old one ) so i cant even really rely on that to keep the girls toasty :(

My girls seem to have a range of different problems, the 2 pineapple chunks are continuing to get lighter and lighter , with yellowing at the bottom and red stems and petrioles, however i've found some weird new growth at the bottom of the plant ( i've named it the siamese twin - as it looks uncharacteristic compared to rest of plant) its a very green tightly bunched new flowering top with what feels like a flat stem????? lol dont know what thas all about but hmm. Anyway i've thrown some sulphate of potash into some water in hope that it will give a potassium boost. On the opposite end of the spectrum both the mature and Weedling LSD are exhibiting wht i think is Phosphorous def- dark green but purpling with leaves that pray so much i would think any more and they would conceal the buds! Can cold temps lock out these nutes.


Currently feeding 5 mls bloom 1 ml grow tbsp molasses at 5.8 ph - runoff is 6.2- 6.5 and temp is errrrrrrr 50! humidity 45 ( hmm)

heres some pics of weirdo growth and leaf colour-PIC_1529.JPGPIC_1531.JPGPIC_1530.JPGPIC_1528.JPGPIC_1532.JPGPIC_1533.JPGPIC_1527.JPGPIC_1535.JPGPIC_1534.JPG
 

TheOrganic

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Your leaves look a lot like mine did on my first indoor grow cupping down. Hows the heat from light? and are you using Hard water. You should be getting some yellow leaves pics are kinda hard to tell with HPS. MY PC was a trooper man and took the cold like a champ! Would def. recommend for a cold weather strain.
I grew a PC outdoor and It is good ass smoke very heavy stone, Mine flowered for 9.5 weeks chopped with about 20%amber-80%cloudy.The nights were 35-40deg for last month so yours should finish quicker I believe. Good luck! Can't believe I didn't see this Journal before Rep on the PC and will follow.
 

Agent Provocateur

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Hey thanks for stopping by :D My ww weedling at the back has been droopy since day one of flowering- almost given up on it so kicked it out to the back of the tent lol:) ( but to be fair to it the seeds are probably 6 years old at least) Overall im happy with the PC's seems like it was a good idea to adopt agressive LST on em at the start - stretchy girls! They all stink to high heaven especially the LSD's and i love my little dwarfish Euforia in the middle- im just hoping i can nip these def's in the bud ( forgive the pun) and get em to the finish line :D

Agent xxx
 
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