AK-47 Lowryder Autos in Aerogarden - First Grow - Pictures included!

Update!
I still have them only on PH'd Spring Water. I definitely think I started the nutes to early

Temps have been held down nicely The ice cube trick works wonderfully! A around 4-5 in the morning and around 4-5 when I get home from work. Also, when I test the PH, when I get home from work (it always needs to be decreased), I drain half the res into a gallon jug. PH it down to around 3.5, and stick it in the freezer for an hour. When I pour it back into the res it gets down to around 57 degrees F. By the new growth it is looking like they enjoy the cold bath every evening.

The browning on the roots are slowly fading away

PH has been slowly raising. I get it down to 5.5 and it is at around 5.9 in approximately 12 hours.

PPM has been staying pretty steady at 190-200. It usually goes down around 5 PPM every twelve hours. At least its not rising, which would mean bad things are happening.

Here are a few pictures. Both have improved since I switched them back to spring water. The larger lady is working on her third set of leaves, and the smaller is still trying to push out that second set. I'm still holding out hope that they will pull through the nute fiasco I put them through! The pics are kinda dark since the mylar reflects so much light back at the camera.

Newbt said:

Since your roots are small try rinsing them with ph'd water or distilled then clean your rez and lid, add 10ml H2O2(hydrogen peroxide 3%)food grade if available to a full rez and let your girl flush in there for 12-24hrs and check your roots to see if they are better then you can start back with the nutes.

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I have the food grade H2O2 showing up today. So you used 10ml for around 1 gallon? Thanks!

RakThatPunk said:

I have the food grade H2O2 showing up today. So you used 10ml for around 1 gallon? Thanks!

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Yup, I put 10ml in the gallon jug that I use to mix my nutes. I usually let it sit for an hour or two in order to let the water oxygenate. Every morning I add 2ml also.

Newbt said:

Yup, I put 10ml in the gallon jug that I use to mix my nutes. I usually let it sit for an hour or two in order to let the water oxygenate. Every morning I add 2ml also.

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Thanks I'll be starting it this afternoon.

RakThatPunk said:

Thanks I'll be starting it this afternoon.

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How are your roots looking Rak?

Newbt said:

How are your roots looking Rak?

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Definitely looking better. I've been adding the H2O2, 2ml, everyday after work. The slime has gone completely away and the roots are getting whiter and whiter. Thanks for the help!

The plants look strong but they seem a bit small. The smaller is still barley out of the AG hole and the larger is only around 2 1/2 inches tall. I also noticed as of yesterday that the leaves are curling a bit downward. I would think they would be reaching more for the light. The leaves are strong, not soft at all, and there is no yellowing on the main leaves. The lowest (the rounded leaves) have a little yellowing on them, but i think this might be due to them not getting much light as the other leaves are covering them. Maybe the plants are hungry for nutes now?

The temp right next to them is between 72-77 degrees and I have been keeping the res temp between 62-68 degrees. PH levels are between 5.5 and 6.2 and the ppm has been staying between 110-90. I have still added no nutes and am working strictly with the H2O2 and spring water. I wanted to get the root problem taken care of before I begin a much, much less nute treatment. I have noticed that the humidity in the room is low (around 34-40%), maybe that could be the problem?

Any thoughts on the leaves? Here are a couple pictures. The mylar makes it almost impossible to get good pics, so I turned the lights off and used the flash on the camera.

hmm, not sure seems like you are doing everything right. do you fill your rez all the way up? I mean past the fill line all the way to just under the brim. thats what I do. are those leaves yellowing a bit around the tip or is that the camera? if they are yellowing and showing some spots it may be a cal/mag deficiency issue. also it will seem like growth has slowed or stopped for a while because most of the growing is being done by the roots once they get good and healthy your girls will take off.

Newbt said:

hmm, not sure seems like you are doing everything right. do you fill your rez all the way up? I mean past the fill line all the way to just under the brim. thats what I do. are those leaves yellowing a bit around the tip or is that the camera? if they are yellowing and showing some spots it may be a cal/mag deficiency issue. also it will seem like growth has slowed or stopped for a while because most of the growing is being done by the roots once they get good and healthy your girls will take off.

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Nope no yellowing or spotting at all on the tips. I'll try and get a better picture. The damn mylar screws everything up, camera wise. They are nice and green I have noticed that the roots are growing like crazy. I only fill the res to the fill line, so tonight I'll fill it up to the brim. It has obviously worked for you. I'm going to start the nutes and cal/mag starting Monday, (depending on how I feel about their health) but at a quarter recommended amount.

I would be a lot more worried if their was yellowing/spotting on the leaves or the leaves felt limp, but they seem strong and look green. Just kinda curling downward.

Well I will Be damned! .. I just finished this same grow (Ak-47 in an aerogarden) last week. and it went Okay with few minor issues. Issues where, the reservoir is way to small. Had a bit of root rot near the 7th week of flowering....but no worries..just harvested on week 8 and VERY GOOD SMOKE... had 2 plants (as you see in picture in drying room), other was pulled early cause it turned Hermie.
Buds didnt get super big...(because I never topped them and they where super stretched)....but in all the least... 2oz from 2 plants.. I am happy!..here is some pics of the drying room. (AK-47) .. the pics are from one plant chopped into 3 sections..smoke is GREAT!

P.s I know what is wrong with your leaves..as I had same problem with this system (Aerogarden).. The drip system that wets the "sponges" comes on way to often and over waters them.. I just unplugged mine..and used the aerogarden light seperately (then removed it all together (Light hood) and used a HPS).. Aerogradens overwater big time.

actont said:

P.s I know what is wrong with your leaves..as I had same problem with this system (Aerogarden).. The drip system that wets the "sponges" comes on way to often and over waters them.. I just unplugged mine..and used the aerogarden light seperately (then removed it all together (Light hood) and used a HPS).. Aerogradens overwater big time.

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Awesome! Thanks! I have heard that people don't use them at all. They just have an air stone and the sponges get enough water like that. I only have it watering once every 11 hours for 1 hour, but I guess even that is way to much

Thanks a bunch! I'm unplugging the pump right now. Did you ever use it?

Here are a better pics.

markl said:

I only run my pump for a half hour or so every time I top off the res. I just run the air stone 24-7

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Have you kept up with just running the air stone 24-7? Just wondering since it seems like I'm over watering mine

RakThatPunk said:

Have you kept up with just running the air stone 24-7? Just wondering since it seems like I'm over watering mine

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Your airstone/stones should run 24/7 IMO. the good thing about the ultra is we can set the pump times, I had read about the pump in other ag's causing root rot so when the ag switched to high growth mode(which ran 24/7) I just changed the pump back to the same times it was on in germination mode which is 60 minutes each day and keep my two air stones running for the most oxygen possible also placed each stone under the plant pod so bubbles went straight up to the roots. that drooping may be a trait of the ak-47, the cotyledons are probably out of juice so to speak and once you start your nutes they will perk right up.

actont said:

Well I will Be damned! .. I just finished this same grow (Ak-47 in an aerogarden) last week. and it went Okay with few minor issues. Issues where, the reservoir is way to small. Had a bit of root rot near the 7th week of flowering....but no worries..just harvested on week 8 and VERY GOOD SMOKE... had 2 plants (as you see in picture in drying room), other was pulled early cause it turned Hermie.
Buds didnt get super big...(because I never topped them and they where super stretched)....but in all the least... 2oz from 2 plants.. I am happy!..here is some pics of the drying room. (AK-47) .. the pics are from one plant chopped into 3 sections..smoke is GREAT!


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That's an awesome grow I hope I can pull about an oz off my girl. The rez on the ultra is bigger than the older models though if it's filled to just under the brim it's about 1.5gal still have to topv every day once they get some size but not much of a problem. I have a berry ryder flowering right now in here she is day 52ish, I had to pop the top off too.

I only run my pump for a half hour after topping the tank, just to mix stuff up. And the airstone is definitely on 24-7.

Hey Rak be careful not to fill the rez to over flowing if any water gets down in the tray that holds the rez it will short out the entire ag saw it posted on another forum. Just an FYI.

Update! Everything is looking much, much better! I unplugged the pump and only use the air stone. Both are looking much much better! The roots are really starting to grow like crazy now too. I will post some pictures tonight.

Day 18 update.

The girls are really starting to grow now. The roots have exploded over this past weekend. New growth on them looks really good and the old growth is looking much much better. I think I will start them on 1/2 the recommended nutrients this weekend. I have still been using spring water. Does anyone know if a CalMag supplement will be needed with spring water? Thanks for your help everyone!

hey Rak what is that material you used to wrap your ag? I think I may need to get some for my new bucket setup seems like it helped you a lot with your rez temps. hope all is going well.

Day 22 Update

Sorry I haven't been on in awhile. Lots of family (in laws and such) came in town for the holiday. It was interesting hiding the system from them But I got away with it! Anyways, the girls are looking great! The roots are white, and the foliage is nice and green. No spots no signs of burn at all. The plants are a bit short, but they look to become very bushy. They have 6 layers of leaves within an inch span of the main stalk. Hopefully that is a good sign!

I started a nute diet two days ago. I started them on 1/2 the recommended dose of GH nutrients and 1/4 dose of a CalMag Supplement. They are looking absolutely perfect! Nice and healthy with the leaves reaching for the lights. I am still using spring water FYI.

I added two new CFL's with lamps, and it has been getting hotter down here, so I have needed to keep a closer eye on the res temps(I don't want to turn on my AC already). Seems like I've needed to add PHed ice in the morning, by 6pm, and around midnight. The res doesn't get above 71, so its been going good. Hopefully the plants start the grow a little taller so I can raise the lamp. This breed is only supposed to grow to 12-18 inches tall, so I may not be raising it up to much.

I'm also still adding the food grade H2O2 and put a humidifier in the room. I got the humidity up from 28-33 to 45-60.

Here are a few pictures of the additions and plants! Let me know what you think about the nute diet. Am i being to conservative? My PPMs are only at 130, but I don't want to risk burning them. Happy growing everyone!