Kndreyn
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Nope, no light leaks. I have a night vision scope I went in and checked everywhere. Something in the environment was stressing them for some reason.
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Bakersfield
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In the garage?
Could it be gas fumes, carbon monoxide from a leaky furnace?
Extreme temperature fluctuations?
Check for Radon.
I wander if radon even effects plants?
Im glad you got your situation under control now.
Kndreyn
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I was using electric heaters, so no fumes and really not much temp fluctuation. I insulated the room really well. 6 inch in the walls and 12 inches in the ceiling. I'm curious about the radon myself. The whole garage is 30 feet by 60 feet. I built a 15' x 15' grow room on one end. On the other end I built a 15' x 30' room for a studio/pool table room. At one point, I tried putting some plants in the studio/pool room and they started dying within just a few days. This was several years ago (probably 15). I tried it a couple of times and got the same result. I'm seriously thinking there is something in the cement floor or the building material. Very puzzling.
Bakersfield
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Sounds bizarre.
If something is affecting your plants so negatively, I'd be concerned about the safety to you and your family.
I hope you can get to the bottom of this.
Kndreyn
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My garage is a separate building away from my house, so I'm not too concerned for safety. It's an old metal building my dad had built almost 50 years ago. It's a big metal building and I cemented the floors and built the two rooms inside it. Hard to say what is going on with growing in there. But I've moved everything in to tents in a spare bedroom in our house, and everything is looking just fantastic now. Wish I would have made the move years ago.
keiserrott
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Any chance one of the heaters was putting out light? Most do, with oil heaters being an exception. Actually, my oil heater did have a red light that kicked on as it cycled on that I had to put foil tape on.
Another possibility is security cameras. Mine have reds in them to provide a night viewing capability.
Kndreyn
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No, I had a piece of black plastic taped over the switch on the heater. I sat in the flower room with my night visions scope and if there was a light leak I would have found it. There were none. I actually did that when I built the room to make sure every nook and cranny was sealed. There were no light leaks. I kept the temps in the mid 70s to low 80s at all times with heater and air conditioner. I had a dehumidifier keeping the humidity around 40 to 50 percent. Everything I could control was in check. There has to have been something in the building that the plants didn't like.
Kndreyn
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I even bought an ozone generator, shut the rooms down and sealed them up and ran the ozone in there for a few days. It's really a mystery what could be wrong, but I've moved my grow out of there and everything's looking great now.
bodhipop
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Some Blueberry Muffin x Vintage Blueberry from our boy @sourchunks
Word is everyone is reallllyyy lovin' it down south. Happy to have a pack.
Word is everyone is reallllyyy lovin' it down south. Happy to have a pack.
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any possibilty that the garage is on ancient burial grounds?
kidding aside, big respect to you for trying a third(?) time and finally getting what you want.
so i was listening to matt riots podcast with a/the founder of SSSC and he makes a backhanded comment about how 'someone' recently brought fake beatrix choice to market. it had me wondering if there was someone else selling BC seeds and then i see bluegrass skunklord post on IG calling out his bullshit.
why the does he think these seeds are fake? is it purely because of money? this crabs in a bucket mentality only hurts us and the collective gene pool.
why the does he think these seeds are fake? is it purely because of money? this crabs in a bucket mentality only hurts us and the collective gene pool.
GrownAtHighAltitude
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The Beatrix Choice male I popped has this insane licorice incense stem rub odor. I've already collected some pollen which also had the same amazing aroma. I tried to get a cutting but it didn't take so far. I'm going to flower it out with the female I also popped after trying again to get cuts. I just wanted to do a test run but that male is so awesome so far. I'm looking forward to trying more.
quiescent
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I know that things moved a little too fast with that project for my liking. With older stuff you've really got to let things come to light before you go diving in as the consumer if you're not comfortable playing with fire.
People that say they have some relic that no one else has are always to be scrutinized. I'm surprised that akbb released them this fast. He must have seen something in the plants that fit the narrative.
There's probably a lot of people already scrupulous about akbb, could be an old hard on.
did you take any pics of the male? is the female still in veg and does she have any smells?
i've never had luck getting males to root. i've only regretted it once because he didn't drop that much pollen.
i agree it did move a little fast; there is an element of trust and risk when buying seeds on an unregulated market. AKBB seems to be very respectable and responsible. i don't see him doing a fly by night cash grab and he can talk your ear off about any of his crosses if you find him in the right mood.
i havn't popped any of the packs i have from him but they're in the queue. i'll be able to see for myself soon enough.
there aren't many but all the pics posted to IG are from september or earlier and there aren't consistent hashtags which makes them harder to find .
and then there's the aspect of akbb and riot having a working relationship sharing seed bank catalogues and genetics. they seemed to be tight just a year ago. why would riot slander someone that akbb was working with and therefore slander akbb by proxy?
quiescent
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They came from psychadelibud right? From some guy he knows?
Did the party the seeds came from claim they were making seeds for sssc? If so that was debunked by an interview with the founder of sssc.
You only need to get caught telling one lie or fib to have your word discounted.
If not, maybe he's talking about someone else.
Did the party the seeds came from claim they were making seeds for sssc? If so that was debunked by an interview with the founder of sssc.
You only need to get caught telling one lie or fib to have your word discounted.
If not, maybe he's talking about someone else.
the story i know is that @psychadelibud got BC from an old head who saved pack(s) from original purchase from the late 80s early 90s
here are the some of the relevant posts in this thread about it
he never said (here) that the guy worked for sssc making seeds in VA. just that he had kept packs in a freezer for thirty years.
here are the some of the relevant posts in this thread about it
he never said (here) that the guy worked for sssc making seeds in VA. just that he had kept packs in a freezer for thirty years.
Bakersfield
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Matt Riot had a falling out with AKBB when Ak called him out on some business that Matt was trying to pull.
I will not say what over because I probably only know part of the story and it's not weed related.
In my opinion if Matt doesn't like you as a person then he will slander you, which makes him a liar and a loser.
I will not say what over because I probably only know part of the story and it's not weed related.
In my opinion if Matt doesn't like you as a person then he will slander you, which makes him a liar and a loser.
gringocook
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Although it’s still a young plant, this AKBB Beatrix I popped has the long petioles and similar look to the SSSC pics I’ve seen. It also has a distinct skunk smell already. Hoping for the best!
dubekoms
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I usually don't trust people with drama always flying around them. Plus he looks like a gopher so fuck him
Bad Karma
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I can tell you from first hand experience that this is 100% correct.
For anyone that's interested...
He did it to me many years ago, without provocation, and got me banned from a forum that no longer exists.
I had been looking into possibly purchasing some of his seeds (I was young, and naive then, I know better now).
While looking for them online I came across his Riot Seeds Facebook page.
Said page had the info I was looking for, but when Matt set it up, he missed something.
He'd accidentally left an open link to his personal FB page active on the company FB page.
Knowing that we were both members of the same forum, I private messaged him, and in a very friendly manner explained what I saw.
Riot relied quickly saying he was unaware of the FB situation, and didn't want his personal stuff out there like that, so he thanked me for giving him a heads up on it.
I went to bed thinking I'd done a good deed.
When I woke up in the morning I found that had been banned from that forum.
The reason, for harassing Matt Riot, and threatening to grass him out.
I emailed the admins and was told that no less then two dozen other members had reported me for this.
I pointed out this was completely false, I had in fact done the opposite, and helped keep his info safe by alerting him.
I told them to simply read the PM I'd sent Riot and they'd see what I said to him and that he'd replied with a thank you.
They said that wasn't possible, and that with so many members upset with me, they would never allow me back on the forums.
I used a friends account to see what was going on in the forums, and that's when I learned a sad truth, that Matt Riot is a very unstable, and dangerous person.
I could not believe what I was reading and how absolutely psychotic it was.
Overnight, Riot had created dozens of brand new sock puppets accounts, all of them posting for the first time, and worrying about Matt's safety.
With posts like "Matt told me he's never going back on the internet again, because he's in hiding, fearing for his life".
I was later informed by other folks in the industry who have worked with him in the past that Matt Riot is/was a very heavy drug addict with serious mental health issues.
When he goes on a bender, or don't take his psych meds, he gets very paranoid, and delusional.
To make an apt analogy, imagine quietly pointing out to your friend that his fly is down, and he says thank you.
Then your friend walks into the next room and starts loudly telling everyone about the creep in the other room that's trying to look at his dick.
That is who Matt Riot is.