Al Gore

Beautiful, but a fantasy all the same. I have often pondered on how wonderful it would be if when I died I hadn't really died at all, that somehow my mind was still alive and sentient to the point of manoeuvrability. If only, if only my friend.

Sadly, we are just like the common dog, or pigeon, or fly. Do they live in eternity when they die too?

No, unfortunate as it may be, there is such a thing as death, and for the individual concerned, death is final.

thank you its kool tho no offense taken honestly i just love to argue

praise allah!!!

I prefer the term debate. Amounts to the same thing only you're not allowed to get angry. It's especially good to debate for an issue you are really against.

Hi Skunk,

ONE can defend their limitations and they shall be the shackles that one lives with....a self imposed prison...

BUT try sitting still and NOT REACTING to anything.. sit until you "DIE".... You'll never make it....

You will only AWAKEN... experience LIFE.. and you will be soooooooo HAPPY..

iloveyou

I'm happy now. I'm happy because I see life for what it really is. It doesn't make me sad knowing that death is final, it releases me. I assume you are speaking of meditation when i tell you that i don't need to concentrate on not concentrating. I don't need to feel this proclaimed freedom because it is only a lie that you make your mind believe. True freedom comes from knowing your own mind and therefore an insight into other peoples'.

A single life is just a mere flicker in history, you're there, then you're gone. The only reason we (mankind) cling onto the hope of an afterlife is that secretly, deep, deep down we are all afraid of death.

i just wanna say that was some deep heavy stuff man. Well put.

shotty

skunkushybrid said:

The only reason we (mankind) cling onto the hope of an afterlife is that secretly, deep, deep down we are all afraid of death.

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uh oh.. i think we are seeing eye to eye LOL

And what is DEATH?

opposite of BIRTH...

and what about DEATH makes "US" afraid ?

Is it the UNKNOWN element?

iloveyou

No, the reason we are all afraid is because we KNOW that death is final. That's why we force ourselves to believe in fairytales.

so you DO KNOW?

count me in on any anti-Bush talk. I think maybe Hugo Chavez might be right. If I were the Devil, I think I might profess the Bush regeme policys. He has stirred up shit all over the globe. He has 90% of the rest of the world hating America. He might not be totally responsible, but he has certainly added fuel to the Fire. The list of evils they've perpetrated on the world is way too large to discuss in this forum. He has all but bankrupted the country. If legal accounting rules applied to the U.S. budget, We'd definently be bankrupt. Hell China owns a large percentage of our infrastructure if we had to pay up, they would own all of our national parks, bridges and freeways, Can you say "toll"!

Hmmm ...

So the president is illiterate, eh? Well, let's see now ... the man has an MBA from Harvard and graduated from Yale with a higher GPA than either John Kerry or Al Gore. The President was a two-term governor of the state of Texas. He's now a two-term office holder of the presidency of the United States of America. The president is also a jet fighter pilot in the Reserves. I honestly don't think our government trusts stupid people to fly their multi-million-dollar airplanes.

And by the way ... why all the class envy on this site? Capitalism rules the day guys.

Vi

Can you say connected, the asshole can't even talk right. what's up with nucular. If my father was the elder Bush, I probably could have stayed home and got an MBA, skipped the national guard, be a skull and bones member etc. And let's not forget how Evil the elder Bush was and is, there is a long history of abusive Bushes. Maybe you should read some perspectives other than Rush Limbaugh, or watch some channel other than Fox News. This Man(and I use the term loosely) Is a spoiled rich kid whom never had to put effort into anything in his life. Do you think he actually got himself elected? He is the puppet put in office by big money, and he speaks with neo-con generated speeches. His agenda is not far akin to Hitlers. Wake up, this man is very Evil. He failed in every business that his Father (and the Saudis) put him in, and we let him take over the U.S budget. Actually I blame the dumb ass American people whom elected him. He stole the first election (and I wouldn't doubt the second-Ohio?), But the Dumb-ass American people elected him the second time, I think I'll move somewhere else, I just haven't figured out where! If you love Bush and you aren't a millionaire, you are retarded. If your rich then fuck you you rich bastard, give some of your money to charity, you'll never get through the eye of that needle!

medicinaluseonly said:

you'll never get through the eye of that needle!

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470 billion dollars and counting... "War on Iraq"

I am just wondering if there was another way that the money could have been spent.. and gotten similiar or better results?

Ah, the biased media and it's subservient followers.

I cannot believe that somebody has the nerve to stand up for Bush's I.Q. LOL. Bush is a face, a smiling face that people like, just like our Blair. Bush doesn't write his own speeches, and he loves the sound of his own voice too much which is why he messes up his speeches a lot. He's a front man for the real powers, the people that really run the country. These people will do anything to keep you under control, they'll lie to you to justify the murders of millions of innocent people. We needed shit the East had and we needed an excuse to go get it. Hence the towers, London, Madrid.

What excuse Saddam Hussein? He didn't have any WOMD. What he did have though was access to billions of dollars worth of oil.

Millions of innocent men, women and children murdered by British and American bombs. The invading army carpet bombing any area they are about to move into, the only people they have left to kill are angry citizens that have just witnessed their families being wiped out. These are easily cut down.

The next time you want to 'big up' Bush, think about these people and how lucky YOU are. How lucky that you are on the side of evil.

I wish BUSH were a puppet.. I wish ALIENS had put him in power.... But actually it is worse than you can ever imagine.. there is no conspiracy.. there is no MASON, Holey Trinity, UNDER GROUND skull and BOnes MO fos running the show.. IT is JUST G W and his infinite intelligence running the SHOW.. Sure he pulls some strings for his (OIL, Weapons)) friends here and there..

and like he said in his UN speech.. "Sadamm tried to KILL my DAddy"... and so now you KNOW why we went to war.. It is very simple.. nothing has changed in 10,000 years.. we are in the iddle of our own greek tradgedy comedy

oh yeah.. and DIKC and CONDI...

Go check out that MOVEI FEARLESS.. with Jet Li.. George Bush needs to see that.. It has a very strong message.... revenge is LAME...

iloveyou

I just wanted to add that he fucked texas up pretty good when he was down here.

This country started out with a few good Ideas! The founding Fathers couldn't forsee a country run by corporations. They put in a lot of safeguards in the Constitution and Bill of rights, But the money boys have been chipping away at those for years. What good is it to have lots of money if your burdened by the laws that all the common folk have to adhere to? This country has the best laws that money can buy. every once in a while, a scandle gets away from them and is so agregious that they have to slap someones wrist (Enron, Global Crossing, etc), but by and large, if you've got the duckets, you slide (O.J.Simpson). Sad to say, this is not your Grandfathers America, this is not my America, this is corporate America and the Bush Regeme is chipping away at our last remaining rights. The Geneva convention that has protected our troops for over 50 years, is being made a farce. I feel for any of our troops that get captured now. The billionaires like the people that run this planet won't ever be captured, nor will their sons or daughters, so why should they care. We've surpassed George Orwells Police state e few years ago and there's no looking back! I personally cannot see any fix unless we storm the Bastille and depose the rich and distribute the wealth. I'm not a socialist, but I think a more equitable distribution of wealth is in order, Why should billionaires roam free to piss on any part of society they want. There are a few notable exceptions, ( Bill Gates, Richard Branson, Ted Turner to name a few), but mostly they are greedy pricks that could care less about the rest of us. I live on a meager pension and worked my ass off for fifty+ years, if it wasn't for social security, I'd be homeless. I put my son through college and he has a decent Job, but, if your not connected (son- son-in-law- nephew etc.) you are not going past middle management period. I had a chance in My 20s to become part of management, (yes I put myself through 2 years of college). After surveying the territory and the ass kissing that was manditory, I opted to be a workerbee, a decision that I've never regretted. How pissed off do you think those managers and employees at Enron were when the boss stole all the money and bankrupted the company, lost jobs-pensions and billions gone from investors pension funds, and Bush wants to put social security into the corporate hands. If it wasn't so fucking insane, it would almost be funny!~ So if you like losing everything that this Nation has been looked up to by the rest of the world, then I guess Bush is the guy for you. (IQ 30-50) and that would be giving you the benefit of the doubt

On a positive NOTE.. THE COUNTRY is awakening... we are gettig closer to critical MASS... LOVE ALL... YOU CAN NEVER LOSE WITH LOVE

iloveyou

So because we are okay that means we should just lie down and let our Governments do as they please? We should forget freedom of thought because... "Well at least they provide us with social security benefits."

Your comment on Mr. Orwell intrigues me because I can't quite understand the comment. I'm not sure whether you are implying that the police state has been vanquished or whether we are amidst it's grip and there is no return.

The only reason our troops are still there is to protect the pipes that funnel the oil. Our troops will never be able to leave Iraq, the oil is too valuable. The best thing for us to do would be to reinstate Saddam Hussein. If anyone can sort that country out it's him.

To be truthful, I really don't mind the war on Islam. It's been on for 2,000 years now. What I care about the most is when that war comes to me and mine. Saddam would have been our greatest ally. He wasn't even a muslim (only famously converting to one during the first gulf war in the hope of enlisting the aid of other Arab nations). If anyone could crush the East then it is that man. His arch enemy Iran was and is still a thousandfold bigger threat.

Muslims believe that anyone that isn't a muslim is a heathen and deserves to die and live in hell merely through their lack of belief in Islam. Obviously there are some that don't believe this but they aren't real muslims, they're pretenders that simply go through the rigmarole.