Alexandria Ocasio Cortez vs Tammy Duckworth

ttystikk

ttystikk

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Unclebaldrick said:
Oh wonderful. Another candidate's name is going to be ruined in my mind by Tty's unbridled arrogance.

Organizize one: alienate ten. Make up for it with volume.
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Wah.

Can't make intelligent commentary, must cover it up with shit post.

Edit; you complaining about other people's arrogance is rich!
 
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ttystikk

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INF Flux said:
People need to face the fact that "Centrist" Democrats are right wing, pro war, pro corporate control of government, pro corruption. This is why they have lost over a thousand seats since 2008, all three branches of government, and the majority of state govt. People know they are corrupt, are sick of them, and any blue won't do.
Personally, I think it'd actually be easier to form a replacement party than reform the dems. Those at the top know they'd lose their cash cow con if progressives are allowed into the party. Since they can make and break the rules at will, It goes beyond rigged elections and stacked decks. The Pelosi types will never willingly give up control.
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:hump:

Now try to get any of these shills to admit any of those facts.
 
ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Based upon their votes as recorded in Congressional Record, two-thirds of all Democratic party congressmen are progressives. This based upon facts and not subject to opinion.

Bernie's followers otherwise known as Progressives(TM) are cute in their naivete.
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Funny how they do such a terrible job of actually enacting progressive reforms, isn't it? Even more amazing that you don't find that even a little suspicious.

You're just a one trick pony, complete with blinders and feedbag.
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Funny how they do such a terrible job of actually enacting progressive reforms, isn't it? Even more amazing that you don't find that even a little suspicious.

You're just a one trick pony, complete with blinders and feedbag.
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Democrats made history with what they got done in the 7 1/2 weeks they had the opportunity to do so. 32 important pieces of legislation including the ACA were passed in the mere 7 1/2 weeks out of the last 18 years that they had the opportunity.

What has Bernie gotten done in his 12 years as Senator?
 
ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Democrats made history with what they got done in the 7 1/2 weeks they had the opportunity to do so. 32 important pieces of legislation including the ACA were passed in the mere 7 1/2 weeks out of the last 18 years that they had the opportunity.

What has Bernie gotten done in his 12 years as Senator?
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Worship Democrats (vaguely).

Bash Sanders.

Typical of you. Vacuously hostile.
 
ttystikk

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Unclebaldrick said:
Aside from the fact that I asked you first, I have made no claim whatsoever to be organizing anybody. You, however, have - loudly and repeatedly. So I will take your answer to mean - none. Good job there. You organizize as well as you grow.

Are you good at anything?
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Are you?
 
travisw

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INF Flux said:
People need to face the fact that "Centrist" Democrats are right wing, pro war, pro corporate control of government, pro corruption. This is why they have lost over a thousand seats since 2008, all three branches of government, and the majority of state govt. People know they are corrupt, are sick of them, and any blue won't do.
Personally, I think it'd actually be easier to form a replacement party than reform the dems. Those at the top know they'd lose their cash cow con if progressives are allowed into the party. Since they can make and break the rules at will, It goes beyond rigged elections and stacked decks. The Pelosi types will never willingly give up control.
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I'm not sure which Bernie bot runs this sock puppet, and god knows you guys love that 1000 seat number, but try and have a little perspective. The number of seats in the house and senate, lost during the last administration are in line with the losses other two term presidents have experienced.



While the state legislative losses under Obama were higher than say the 850 lost under Eisenhouer, it matters how the Democrats’ losses during Obama’s administration are counted.

Most analyses compare the number of seats Democrats held after the 2008 elections to those they held after 2016. But Obama’s 2008 election saw a surge of down-ballot Democratic wins, which makes the slide look that much more precipitous. If you compare the number of Democratic seats held after the 2006 midterms, prior to Obama’s election, with the number held after 2016, when he was off the ticket — as the Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein has suggested — the loss of state-level seats is closer to the norm.

In 2018, 87 of the nation's 99 state legislative chambers will hold regularly-scheduled elections for 6,070 seats, meaning that nearly 82 percent of all state legislative seats will be up for election.

How many seats have the dems already taken back since Trump, 50?
 
ttystikk

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All this and notably absent is any discussion of AOC's positions vs those of TD.

It's clear who the clowns are.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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travisw said:
I'm not sure which Bernie bot runs this sock puppet, and god knows you guys love that 1000 seat number, but try and have a little perspective. The number of seats in the house and senate, lost during the last administration are in line with the losses other two term presidents have experienced.



While the state legislative losses under Obama were higher than say the 850 lost under Eisenhouer, it matters how the Democrats’ losses during Obama’s administration are counted.

Most analyses compare the number of seats Democrats held after the 2008 elections to those they held after 2016. But Obama’s 2008 election saw a surge of down-ballot Democratic wins, which makes the slide look that much more precipitous. If you compare the number of Democratic seats held after the 2006 midterms, prior to Obama’s election, with the number held after 2016, when he was off the ticket — as the Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein has suggested — the loss of state-level seats is closer to the norm.

In 2018, 87 of the nation's 99 state legislative chambers will hold regularly-scheduled elections for 6,070 seats, meaning that nearly 82 percent of all state legislative seats will be up for election.

How many seats have the dems already taken back since Trump, 50?
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This is an interesting way of trying to minimize widespread losses among Democratic ranks.

It's too bad we can't talk policy anymore, that might shed some light on causes and solutions.
 
SneekyNinja

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travisw said:
I'm not sure which Bernie bot runs this sock puppet, and god knows you guys love that 1000 seat number, but try and have a little perspective. The number of seats in the house and senate, lost during the last administration are in line with the losses other two term presidents have experienced.



While the state legislative losses under Obama were higher than say the 850 lost under Eisenhouer, it matters how the Democrats’ losses during Obama’s administration are counted.

Most analyses compare the number of seats Democrats held after the 2008 elections to those they held after 2016. But Obama’s 2008 election saw a surge of down-ballot Democratic wins, which makes the slide look that much more precipitous. If you compare the number of Democratic seats held after the 2006 midterms, prior to Obama’s election, with the number held after 2016, when he was off the ticket — as the Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein has suggested — the loss of state-level seats is closer to the norm.

In 2018, 87 of the nation's 99 state legislative chambers will hold regularly-scheduled elections for 6,070 seats, meaning that nearly 82 percent of all state legislative seats will be up for election.

How many seats have the dems already taken back since Trump, 50?
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#bluewave
#fuckTrump
#BernieOwns3Houses
#MrsSandersGoingToJail
 
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