Aliens

Quasar said:

They are everywhere. We live in a universe full of life. Here is something to chew on. O and please remember Drakes equation.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

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email468 said:

Eleven planets in neighboring galaxies is a pretty bold assertion. While we have observed planets outside our solar system both directly and indirectly, I don't believe we have identified any planet-size bodies outside the Milky Way.

Would you share the source of this information?

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KrazyAnneBanks said:

nasa.jpl.gov.

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devilwacause said:

The big problem the guy has is the definition of galaxy and solar system. We HAVE found many many planets outside our Solar System, however we have just started to peer out of the galaxy into the universe.

Stars + their orbiting bodies = solar system
Millions of solar systems and lone stars = galaxy.

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Erniedytn said:

See that's what I'm sayin man. Some of that shit that sounds soooooo crazy, actually makes sense. It's all very intriguing.

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29menace said:

lol i believe there are other life forms coz if you think its just us in the universe then that would be daft..

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TEUFELHuNDEN420 said:

think about this a little bit one time. Out of all the planets just in our own solar system and of all the planets we know of the only one with life on it is also the only one with known intelligence too... of all the species on earth there's one. And humans don't even have the biggest brains on the planet, only the biggest brain to body ratio. For all we know the average blue whale could be like 20X smarter than the average person, but of course there'd be no way to tell.

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Source at U.N. tells of secret UFO meeting February 12, 2008

I received the following email from two trusted colleagues (Clay and Shawn Pickering) regarding a reliable source informing them that a secret meeting occurred yesterday morning (Feb 12) at the New York office of the United Nations concerning the recent spate of UFO sightings. It appears that a number of nation states are concerned about the impact of increased UFO sightings and wish to be briefed about what is happening. Their source, who currently works in the diplomatic corps, had to travel for an early morning off the record meeting at the UN. Their source revealed that a secret UFO working group exists that is authorizing the release of such information to the public, in an effort to acclimate others to what is about to unfold. A date of 2013 was given as the time for official disclosure and/or when extraterrestrials show up in an unambiguous way. In the interim there will be acclimation related releases of information. Importantly, the source revealed that the events leading up to official disclosure will involve more ethically oriented extraterrestrials, and they will not pose a military threat to the world.
The information below may be related to the recent debate in the Japanese parliament and statements by the Defense Minister over how Japan would respond to extraterrestrials appearing over Japanese airspace that display peaceful intent. It appears nation states are moving forward in developing public policy on how to respond to extraterrestrials showing up. So if the information below is accurate, then it is likely that we will see more examples of governments making official statements concerning how they would respond to extraterrestrials that show up over their airspace. It is likely that parliamentarians around the world will start receiving briefings to help them develop public policy concerning extraterrestrial life. Such briefings will probably extend to prominent media sources who will give more coverage to UFO sightings in popular media outlets such as Larry King Live. Increased media reports will first likely lead to disclosures of secret antigravity technologies that have been withheld for over 50 years, as a prelude to official disclsoure of extraterresrial life. The source's reference to suicides is probably related to those who will learn that much of what they have learned and believed over a lifetime was a lie. The 1961 Brookings Report referred to scientists as being most vulnerable to the disclosure of extraterrestrial life since it will make redundant many of the cherished scientific theories and models held by this community.
Overall, it appears that a countdown is underway to official disclosure around 2013, and that nation states and the UN are being briefed. The acclimation process will accelerate over the next five years as UFO sightings increase around the globe forcing governments to make public policy statements on UFOs and extraterrestrial life.

Aloha,
Michael E. Salla, Ph.D
Kona, Hawaii
2/13/08
www.Exopolitics.Org

----- Original Message ----
From: Clayton Pickering <[email protected]>
To: Michael Salla <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:47:00 AM
Subject: Source at U.N. tells of secret UFO meeting February 12, 2008

Dear Mike,

Shawn and I met with our source who currently works ... [in the Diplomatic Corps]. We had discussed various topics when the Stephenville and O'Hare UFO's cases were brought up. Shawn, actually, brought up the cases--"what's the deal with these incidents? Why is Stephenville getting so much press? "...etc...etc. Our source did not answer the questions immediately and other topics were discussed. About 5 minutes later, our source said to us, "Notice I did not answer your UFO questions." Shawn stated to him that we felt he wasn't interested in answering. Our source stated, "not at all." He took a breath and responded, "Unfortunately I can't go into it, but getting up tomorrow (February 12) at 6 AM to attend a briefing at the UN at 8AM is highly unusual. I (Clay) asked, "Does the briefing tomorrow have anything to do with these UFO incidents?" Our source said he could neither confirm nor deny, hint, hint. He stated that an 8AM briefing simply did not happen, unless these was a pressing need. Shawn and I probed him as best we could without forcing him to compromise his security issues. Our source stated:

1) UN is an international organization. Clay stated, "Therefore the briefing has do with other
nation-states in context to sightings?" Our source affirmed.

2) Shawn stated, "Then there have been other incidents around the world, like
Stephenville case?"

At that point, our source got up and made a phone call and returned within 2 minutes. Our source stated, "Out of professional courtesy, I made a phone call to my source and stated, 'mission accomplished.' " He stated to Shawn and I:

1) There is a group he is affiliated with whose task is to release information to certain
sectors of society--i.e., your community (UFO).

2) The briefing had to do with calming the nerves of certain nation-states regarding
sightings.

3) The Russians seem really anxious.

4) The Bush boys (Neo-cons) are anxious about being left out of the loop, when Bush
steps down.

5) Although incidents are occurring around the world, these are NOT "Independence Day"
types. In fact, our source stated that the ships are not as big as the ones portrayed
in the film.

6) When contact is made (officially to the world) there will be no ambiguity.

7) You'll know things are heating up when suicides dramatically increase. A date of 2013
was given. Shawn stated, "Perhaps a meltdown factor." Source nodded yes.

Our source was to dress in civilian clothing to put the Russians at ease. They hate
military dress.

9) The civilian dress was to facilitate deniability so as not to implicate the military.

At this point, our source apologized for using us to get this information out. He was doing so at the behest of his superior, an admiral. The admiral stated, "What about these conspiracy guys": Using Shawn and I as a conduit. Our source feels that globalization is an effort to reduced the 200 plus nation-states down to a single entity; at which point, a one
world representative body can present itself to a "galactic federation" type council. ...
Our source said, "get this out there and let me know what your peers feel about this.

By Clay and Shawn Pickering

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Erniedytn said:

There is a shitton of scientific data within those pages. The problem is it's all greek to us because supposedly the laws of physics as we know them are not the same in other solar systems due to the nature of the different stars behavior.

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I also realize your list of quizzical people have numerous probing questions. I'll try to answer them, but you must understand that all of this information is contained in a huge voluminous book. There are literally hundreds of pages of scientific calculations trying to understand Serpo, the orbit, etc. I could not possibly relate all of that information via e-mail.

Our scientists had the same questions, as posed by your audience. Our scientists questioned our team members and the information they gathered. Our scientists could not understand how the orbit of Serpo could revolve around the two suns at the distance measured.

In the end, our scientists found that some things relating to that particular system was different in physics compared to our system. There were some questions about how our team measured the orbit and other calculations based on the lack of a stable time base. For some reason &#8211; and I don't think this was ever determined &#8211; our time instruments did not work on Serpo.

Now, considering this, you can understand the difficult job our team members had making calculations without time. They had to come up with an alternate method to measure speeds, orbits, etc.

Challenge: Try solving a problem in physics without being able to measure time on Earth!

So you see, our team did the best they could with the instruments they had and the hardships they developed attempting scientific calculations. It is difficult for any Earth-based scientist to understand the different physics in other solar systems or on other planets.

One of the questions sent me involved Kepler's Law of Planetary Motion. Our team had that information. We had some of the best military scientists on the team. But if you consider Kepler's Law, it requires time and our team could only measure time in the conventional way. It was determined that Kepler's Laws did not apply to that solar system.

MODERATOR's COMMENT: (Victor Martinez)
[Johannes Kepler was a German astronomer and mathematician, 1571-1630. Kepler's discovery of Mars' elliptical orbit led to the publication in 1609 of three laws of planetary motion.
1) First law: States that a planet moves on an elliptical path with the sun at one focus point.
2) Second law: States that a planet moves faster when closer to the sun and slower when farther away.
3) Third law: Makes it possible to calculate a planet's relative distance from the Sun. Specifically, the law states that the cube of a planet's average distance from the Sun is equal to the square of the time it takes that planet to complete its orbit.]

CONCLUSION: One of the things our Earth-based scientists learned was not to apply Earth's laws of physics in a universal way.

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email468 said:

If "the laws of physics as we know them are not the same in other solar systems due to the nature of the different stars behavior" were true, we would not be able to accurately predict comets' return based on trajectory as they exit our solar system and circle other stars - but we can. We wouldn't be able to predict a distant star's wobble is caused by an orbiting planet - but we can. Also, there would be no way to accurately predict a distant stars movement across the sky if the laws of physics behaved differently for extra-solar stars - but we can do all these things and much more. Therefore, it appears that in the viewable universe physical laws are constant and your postulation that "the laws of physics as we know them are not the same in other solar systems due to the nature of the different stars behavior" is false.

Unless I misunderstood you and you were talking about different physical laws acting differently under extreme conditions (near the speed of light for example) - but that is already observed, researched and utilized.

my two cents...

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