Aliens

Guy Dasilva

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Interesting shite! I like to look to the good old Galapagos Islands (read about, Ive never been of course) for evolutionary inspiration. I love the variation of the same species across the islands, it is a testimonial to the power of nature.
 

mindphuk

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Sorry to get off the subject of evolution but has anyone here ever heard of Valiant Thor?
You mean that alien from Venus that is able to withstand the enormous pressures and heat but somehow manage to build a spacecraft and fly it to Earth?
 

KindGrower

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You mean that alien from Venus that is able to withstand the enormous pressures and heat but somehow manage to build a spacecraft and fly it to Earth?
I don't know, one of my friends was talking about it a few nights ago when we were fucked up lol.
 

Sure Shot

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Found this in another thread and thought it deserved more coverage.

Washington - The US space agency has created a buzz with its announcement of a news conference on Thursday to discuss a scientific finding that relates to the hunt for life beyond the planet Earth.
"Nasa will hold a news conference at 14:00 EST (19:00 GMT) on Thursday, December 2, to discuss an astrobiology finding that will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life," it said on its website.
Space enthusiasts and believers in alien life took to the blogosphere in a flurry of speculation over the potential meaning of the announcement, though Nasa declined to elaborate further.
Those scheduled to speak included Mary Voytek, who heads Nasa's astrobiology programme; Felisa Wolfe-Simon, a Nasa astrobiology research fellow from the US Geological Survey; and Pamela Conrad, an astrobiologist at Nasa's Goddard Space Flight Centre.
Astrobiology relates to the study of life in the universe, including its origin and evolution, where it is located and how it might survive in the future.

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_M10-167_Astrobiology.html
 

Sure Shot

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Here are some excerpts from today's press release.:eek:



Researchers conducting tests in the harsh environment of Mono Lake in California have discovered the first known microorganism on Earth able to thrive and reproduce using the toxic chemical arsenic. The microorganism substitutes arsenic for phosphorus in its cell components...........


The newly discovered microbe, strain GFAJ-1, is a member of a common group of bacteria, the Gammaproteobacteria. In the laboratory, the researchers successfully grew microbes from the lake on a diet that was very lean on phosphorus, but included generous helpings of arsenic. When researchers removed the phosphorus and replaced it with arsenic the microbes continued to grow. Subsequent analyses indicated that the arsenic was being used to produce the building blocks of new GFAJ-1 cells...............

"The idea of alternative biochemistries for life is common in science fiction," said Carl Pilcher, director of the NASA Astrobiology Institute at the agency's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif. "Until now a life form using arsenic as a building block was only theoretical, but now we know such life exists in Mono Lake."
 

doowmd

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way to follow up sureshot! that's some interesting stuff. lifeforms using arsenic to live.......!!!!!!!!!!!!! w/ the obvious connotation 'if that's possible, what couldn't be used for life? and there could be life on any planet!?!?!
 

RawBudzski

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they do exist, have been here. are here, but its a different relationship than you may think. cannot explain now but reverse engineering is happening, we are on the dark side of the moon with large telescope's that can see vital areas on earth. Breaking technology is on average 5-10 years ahead of what is shown and given to the public sector. No ALIENS are not in the UFOs that are seen now days. The Large Triangles are man made, they can appear transparent, black, and have the ability to project images with some type of light/laser. Well you can take it from their because its more inter-woven than you can imagine ^_^ you cant just pick out 1 aspect. And for all you ignorant humans, you are the "aliens". If only you were among your ancestors, would you have any sight.
The type that come from other planets.

Anyone believe they have landed on Earth? Not that they don't exist as I believe they do, the odds of them not are too great. Actually believe though that they have landed on Earth? Or that they kidnap people for experiments?
 

guy incognito

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way to follow up sureshot! that's some interesting stuff. lifeforms using arsenic to live.......!!!!!!!!!!!!! w/ the obvious connotation 'if that's possible, what couldn't be used for life? and there could be life on any planet!?!?!
If you look at the periodic table it is organized by properties. Elements in the same column usually have the same chemical properties and react similarly.



Phosphorus is directly above arsenic on the table (numbers 15 and 33 respectively).

While interesting I feel like I was misled by the wording about it relating to alien life. This is not alien life.
 

guy incognito

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This changes or broadens our view on where to look for Alien life.
Astrobiology
It does and is certainly relevant to the search for alien life. I guess I was led to believe there was some ACTUAL alien life from the all the hype, or that there was some form of "weird" life that had independent origins from the rest of life as we know it. This has the exact same origins though, it was just able to utilize some unique chemistry the rest of life doesn't seem to utilize. I read more about this from other sources and the hype was pretty crazy.
 

Sure Shot

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It does and is certainly relevant to the search for alien life. I guess I was led to believe there was some ACTUAL alien life from the all the hype, or that there was some form of "weird" life that had independent origins from the rest of life as we know it. This has the exact same origins though, it was just able to utilize some unique chemistry the rest of life doesn't seem to utilize. I read more about this from other sources and the hype was pretty crazy.
Yes, but all that was hearsay.
Not directly from NASA.
Just us Humans with high hopes.:)
 

guy incognito

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Yes, but all that was hearsay.
Not directly from NASA.
Just us Humans with high hopes.:)
Yes, but its fucking retarded to print it as "news" then. Just wait until the actual press release comes out. I wonder why people would start speculating on shit they WANT the press release to be about.

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bongsmilie:bigjoint::eyesmoke:
 

mindphuk

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wow I really hope you don't take that retarded douche bag seriously.

epic logic fail..
[video=youtube;AOZwLgWENgw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOZwLgWENgw&feature=player_profilepage[/video]
this has to be the most retarded video I have ever seen..
OMFG, that is hysterical!!! Olives are green and so are witches and the Jolly Green Giant so that's where little green men with antennas come from. ROFL!!!!
 

mindphuk

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[video=youtube;jj3r01Je7hc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_596353&v=jj3r01Je7hc&feature=iv[/video]
 

Dropastone

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Air & Space

Scientists Find 200 Sextillion More Stars in the Sky


Published December 01, 2010
Associated Press




ESA/Hubble


The night sky may be a lot starrier than we thought.

A study suggests the universe could have triple the number of stars scientists previously calculated. For those of you counting at home, the new estimate is 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. That's 300 sextillion.

The study questions a key assumption that astronomers often use: that most galaxies have the same properties as our Milky Way. And that's creating a bit of a stink among
astronomers who want a more orderly cosmos.

It's one of two studies being published online Wednesday in the journal Nature that focus on red dwarf stars, the most common stars in the universe. The study that offers the new estimate on stars is led by a Yale University astronomer. He calculates that there are far more red dwarfs than previously thought, and that inflates the total star count.

A second study led by a Harvard University scientist focuses on a distant "super Earth" planet and sees clues to the content of its atmosphere -- the first of this kind of data for this size planet. It orbits a red dwarf.

Red dwarf stars -- about a fifth the size of our sun -- burn slowly and last much longer than the bigger, brighter stars, such as the sun in the center of our solar system, said Yale astronomer Pieter van Dokkum. His study looks at how many red dwarfs are in elliptical-shaped galaxies.

When scientists had estimated previously how many stars there were in the universe, they assumed that all galaxies had the same ratio of dwarf stars as in our galaxy, which is spiral-shaped. Much of our understanding of the universe is based on observations inside our Milky Way and then extrapolated to other galaxies.

But about one-third of the galaxies in the universe are not spiral, but elliptical, and van Dokkum found they aren't really made up the same way as ours.

Using the Keck telescope in Hawaii, van Dokkum and a colleague gazed into eight other distant, but elliptical, galaxies and looked at their hard-to-differentiate light signatures. The scientists calculated that elliptical galaxies have more of those dwarf stars. A lot more.

"We're seeing 10 or 20 times more stars than we expected," van Dokkum said. By his calculations, that triples the number of estimated stars from 100 sextillion to 300 sextillion.

For the past month, astronomers have been buzzing about van Dokkum's findings, and many aren't too happy about it, said astronomer Richard Ellis of the California Institute of Technology.

Van Dokkum's paper challenges the assumption of "a more orderly universe" and gives credence to "the idea that the universe is more complicated than we think," Ellis said. "It's a little alarmist."

Ellis said it is too early to tell if van Dokkum is right or wrong, but it is shaking up the field "like a cat among pigeons."

Van Dokkum agreed, saying, "Frankly, it's a big pain."

Ellis said the new study does make sense. Its biggest weakness might be its assumption that the chemical composition of dwarf stars is the same in elliptical galaxies as in the Milky Way. That might be wrong, Ellis said. Even if it is, it would mean there are only five times more red dwarf stars in elliptical galaxies than scientists previously thought, instead of 10 or 20, van Dokkum said.

Slightly closer to home, at least in our own galaxy, one dwarf star has astronomers at Harvard taking another step in their search for life. They were able to home in on the atmosphere of a planet circling that star using the European Southern Observatory's Very Large Telescope in Chile. The planet lives up to the word alien.

Their paper reports that this giant planet's atmosphere is either dense with sizzling water vapor like a souped-up steam bath, or it's full of hazy, choking hydrogen and helium clouds with a slightly blue tint. The latter is more likely, say the researchers and others not involved in the study.

While scientists have been able to figure out the atmosphere of gas giants the size of Jupiter or bigger, this is a first for the type of planet called a super Earth -- something with a mass 2 to 10 times Earth's. It is more comparable to Neptune and circles a star about 42 light years from Earth. A light year is nearly 6 trillion miles.

And while this planet is nowhere near livable -- it's about 440 degrees (about 225 degrees Celsius) -- characterizing its atmosphere is a big step toward understanding potentially habitable planets outside our solar system, said study chief author Jacob Bean at the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.

"You wouldn't want to be there. It would be unpleasant," said study co-author Eliza Kempton of the University of California Santa Cruz.

Bean and Kempton looked at the light spectrum signature from the large planet as it passed in front of the dwarf star, and the result led to two possible conclusions: steam bath or haze.

The steam bath is the more interesting possibility because water is key to life, said outside scientist Alan Boss of the Carnegie Institution of Washington.

But an upcoming and still unpublished study by Kempton and Bryce Croll at the University of Toronto points more toward a hydrogen-helium atmosphere, several astronomers said.

Editors' Note: An earlier version of this story erroneously said that astronomer Eliza Kempton is affiliated with the University of California Santa Clara; Kempton is actually at the University of California Santa Cruz. This story has been updated to reflect the correction.


 
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