Aliens??

I live out in AZ and I have personally seen an unidentified flying object. I think that there are other life forms out there, There has to be..... what do you think?

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Afghan Goo said:

I live out in AZ and I have personally seen an unidentified flying object. I think that there are other life forms out there, There has to be..... what do you think?

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I think it would be daft for anyone to state there isn't other life out there. We barely know a thing about our own solar system, let alone the rest of the universe.

i saw one in queens new york once..and i found out a friend of a friend was at church and saw the same thing i saw..i also looked up the description of what i saw online and saw that someone in florida in 1995 saw the same thing i saw...interesting stuff

There is most deffinately extra terrestrial life out there.
Although none have come into contact with the earth, or atleast it has been proven "scientifically" impossible.

Think about it for a second.......

Scientists have pretty much pin pointed (down to a few seconds) the beginning of the universe - The Big Bang.
Now, our human race has excelled very quickly in terms of technology, sceince, horticulture, mechanics, engineering etc ect. And we (modern humans) have been around for roughly 200,000 years. It is estimated that the nearest possible planetary system that could hold life, is around 200 light years away. It would take freakish luck for another life holding planet to advance much faster than what we have, although I wouldn't say it's impossible. As nothing is impossible......

So unfortunately, even if Alien's were 10 times more advanced than us, it is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light (not considering worm holes or black holes or ofcourse some un-known technology) So if, for example, they could travel that fast, it would still take 200 years for them to get here. And if they could survive those 200 years of travel, they would have to be seriously advanced beings.

Anyway, that is my logical way to think about it. I have personally seen some weird shit in the sky aswell, so who knows, really?? I wouldn't doubt much, but it would take a lot to believe aswell....

I know what I saw one night about 20 yrs. ago. I believe.

i saw a UFO when i was younger and it was before i smoked so i was completely sober...light was just sitting in the sky, i thought it was a star and then it started going up slowly like a harrier and then shot straight up into the sky and dissapeared

Greenplease said:

There is most deffinately extra terrestrial life out there.
Although none have come into contact with the earth, or atleast it has been proven "scientifically" impossible.

Think about it for a second.......

Scientists have pretty much pin pointed (down to a few seconds) the beginning of the universe - The Big Bang.
Now, our human race has excelled very quickly in terms of technology, sceince, horticulture, mechanics, engineering etc ect. And we (modern humans) have been around for roughly 200,000 years. It is estimated that the nearest possible planetary system that could hold life, is around 200 light years away. It would take freakish luck for another life holding planet to advance much faster than what we have, although I wouldn't say it's impossible. As nothing is impossible......

So unfortunately, even if Alien's were 10 times more advanced than us, it is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light (not considering worm holes or black holes or ofcourse some un-known technology) So if, for example, they could travel that fast, it would still take 200 years for them to get here. And if they could survive those 200 years of travel, they would have to be seriously advanced beings.

Anyway, that is my logical way to think about it. I have personally seen some weird shit in the sky aswell, so who knows, really?? I wouldn't doubt much, but it would take a lot to believe aswell....

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never thought about it like that, but what if they did have ships that could travel faster than the speed of light? I have seen some stuff in the sky also and I do believe that they are out there. But I really don't have the time in life to worry about that shit, there is too much shit to do in a day rather than worry about aliens!

I once saw whe I was young and before I started smoking aswell, an orange flashing triangle that was moving about in the sky in a diagonal zig-zag type of motion, as if it was going up some invisible stairs, that was weird, I have no idea what it could have been.

Howard Stern said:

never thought about it like that, but what if they did have ships that could travel faster than the speed of light? I have seen some stuff in the sky also and I do believe that they are out there. But I really don't have the time in life to worry about that shit, there is too much shit to do in a day rather than worry about aliens!

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That's the thing, although we can estimate through probability that other life exists, there is no way of telling how advanced it may be, there could be life forms milenia ahead of us in terms of evolution and technology and there could be life forms being created at this very moment. They could well have transportation that is faster than the speed of light, or no transportation at all. It's impossible to know. Kinda interesting though.

Afghan Goo said:

I live out in AZ and I have personally seen an unidentified flying object. I think that there are other life forms out there, There has to be..... what do you think?

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I would not go so far as to say; "there has to be" alien life forms. I would say there is a possibility that alien life forms exist but I would also say that the probability that they exist is likely not all that high and the probability that if they exist they are so much more technologically advanced than earthlings is of an even lower probability.

The human mind needs it's 'what ifs' and its 'do they exists' and 'this is not all there is too life' beliefs. The human mind cannot easily accept that this is all there is, that there are not great mysteries and that there are no Supreme Beings and there life ends so they create a life after death or reincarnation or little green moon men.

This is of course not proof of anything but now and then there are reports of aliens making contact with humans. If you were an ultra intelligent life form that is capable of traveling many, many light years in a quest to explore the entirety of space and seek out other intelligent life forms and civilizations would you stop and talk to Zeb and Zeek and Clem as they make their way through a swamp at night on their way to check their still or would you pay a visit to Stephen Hawking or someone like that?

I am not one to say things that have not been proven cannot exist. My mother died in my home and starting roughly 6-months later inexplicable things began occurring and have continued for 16-years. The long list of things that have happened here range from minor things like my dogs and cats being let in or out when all doors and windows were closed tightly and locked to friends seeing a tall black hooded figure with glowing red eyes in the middle of the night that scared them so bad that they left the following day and have refused to return since. With all the things I have seen and heard and felt and other odd inexplicable occurrences that I know have occurred here I am still not one who will swear that spooks and ghosts and goblins and demons exist. The most I will say is it is possible but I am still not able to say I believe it to be highly probable. I have to believe there are rational explanations for most if not all such things people experience, including little green moon men, that our minds do not think of or consider because of the human minds need to believe there is more out there than we can see and touch.

It is the "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy" thing going on. We have the need for our own Old Hamlet in our life because without it our lives are rather bland and pedestrian leaving us with the burning questions of, 'is this all there is' and 'why are we here, why do we exist?'

In roughly 1973 a friend and I were driving around in the farmlands of Northern Illinois very late one night. We ended up at the end of a several mile long dead end road. While turning around we spotted two glowing red eyes in the bushes on the side of the dead end road. I assumed it was a raccoon so to spook it I hit my high beams. Whatever was behind the bushes stood up and was much taller than my friend and I, both of us 6' 0" and 6' 1". It turned and slowly walked away moving into the darkness while looking back over its shoulder as if to watch to see if we were following it. It was covered with thick hair, it walked upright, but slightly hunched, and it looked less apelike than it looked human.

We wanted to say we saw Bigfoot but there is no way in the wide, wide world of sports that a Bigfoot was living in the farmlands of Northern Illinois. We were not tripping, we were not doing any drugs that could have made us hallucinate, let alone have a shared hallucination. We know we saw something, and it was as I just described, and to this day I could not venture a guess what it might have been. Still I am not, and never have been, willing to say we saw some mythical or semi-mythical creature or some demonic entity any more than I could say some farmer who got tired of kids hanging around at the end of the dead end road donned a Halloween costume and hung around in the bushes waiting to scare kids away.

I tend to believe there are logical answers to things that most human minds to not think of or if they do think of them they discount them in favor of the mystical answers we all much prefer to be the answers we want.

In areas of military bases, especially ones for research and development and testing, virtually anything might be seen in the skies at night and if reported the military will never say they were testing some new prototype aircraft so they do not comment or they say it was a weather balloon or the Northern Lights or something. That could explain a number of night sightings in areas where a top secret military base is within say a States distance from the area of sighting.

The one thing I have remained very curious about are the WWII Foo Fighters. That is something that is not at all easily explained away. Too many pilots and crew members from all waring nations saw them and took pictures of them and each believed the other side had created some new secret weapon. As far as I know they remain a true mystery today.

Im not saying they absolutely dont exist, but I'll believe it when I see it.

It will be impossible to know for a very long time if life truely does exist in other galaxies, but scientists have pretty good ideas of where other planets are that hold all the ingredients needed to manufacture life. Water being one of the principal things, they have found a planet in one of our neighboring galaxies that almost replicates earth to a T (or earth replicates IT??) It is estimated to be much larger aswell. It is miles away, but it has water and some sought of eco-system, as there is visible plant life, either something is still in it's cacoon, or there is something already living and growing on that planet, that is if you don't consider plant life "life". But anyway, it doesn't matter if it is a single celled amoeba or an 8 limbed dinosaur-like creature, it is life, and it is on another planet.

And this is just one example, space is enormous, it stretches out to an almost uncountable distance. We are almost non-existent in the grand scale of things. We would be a little ignorant to assume that we are the almighty, one and only living and breathing planet in the whole of space.........

i saw one when i was little i was very sick and while lying on my parents bed i saw orange lights move around this object it was like K.I.T.T.'s red light in the grill only it moved arond the object in orange/red lights

Greenplease said:

And this is just one example, space is enormous, it stretches out to an almost uncountable distance. We are almost non-existent in the grand scale of things. We would be a little ignorant to assume that we are the almighty, one and only living and breathing planet in the whole of space.........

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If someone believes the theory of evolution accurately explains the creation of all life, then yes it would "be a little ignorant to assume that we are the almighty, one and only living and breathing planet in the whole of space," and it would also be a bit on the arrogant side too. If someone believes in creationism, at least as told by the largest most believed religions, it would be impossible to believe that any forms of life exist anywhere other than on the third rock from our sun.

Only by presupposing that the theory of evolution does accurately explain the creation of all life and that all it relies on to do so would equally exist and apply to all different environments in space can one assume that life in space most probably exists. Even saying it would equally apply to planets in space that appear to have very similar atmospherics to this planet would require a leap of faith because there is no knowing what chemical and mineral differences there might be and what events took place or will take place that might closely enough mirror what is believed to have occurred on this planet resulting in the creation of life through the actions of the theory of evolution. The alleged primordial 'soup' where life allegedly began on this planet might turn out to be a natural paint or a natural wonton soup on some other planet given any possible difference in its makeup and series of events.

I tend to believe that if other life forms exist they do so in different dimensions and not in different galaxies of our space.

Where does a black-hole actually lead to or is it simply a dead end? What about a white-hole which is the hypothetical time reversal of a black hole, what comes from them and where does it come from? Why do wormholes exist and who or what coming from where might make use of them? After a body falling into a rotating black hole is torn apart and reduced to elementary particles by tidal effects, it may be possible for those particles to miss the singularity, travel through a small hole or tunnel in space-time (a wormhole) to another universe or another dimension or another era in time. If so what travels through them, dust, old radio waves of Chuck Berry songs?

I will never be able to figure it all out. I'm still stumped as to why that orange stuff forms on the top of chili.

+the mexicns need it to make chariso

i personally do believe there's def other life out there. the universe is so far beyond the comprehension of the human mind. with the sheer number of galaxies that we CAN SEE from earth (which isn't even the tiniest fraction of a fraction of the existing universe), by just random mathematics alone, it'd be basically impossible for no other life to exist. wether or not other intelligent life exists at this same point in time as we exist, is another story. but i def believe.

i'm even partially convinced on the ancient alien theories from the history channel

my buddy swears he has proof of ufos through google maps. he showed me all these different angles and crap and there was a weird thing in the sky that appeared to be moving based on the timing of some of the shots. i'll try to post the location.

jxpfeer said:

i personally do believe there's def other life out there. the universe is so far beyond the comprehension of the human mind. with the sheer number of galaxies that we CAN SEE from earth (which isn't even the tiniest fraction of a fraction of the existing universe), by just random mathematics alone, it'd be basically impossible for no other life to exist. wether or not other intelligent life exists at this same point in time as we exist, is another story. but i def believe.

i'm even partially convinced on the ancient alien theories from the history channel

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im with you..........