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UncleBuck hit the nail on the head, SQL injection attacks happen a lot.

From your own source:

"Officials said the attacker does not appear to have stolen any personal data and only broke in to a server used to test run software for the site. HHS said the Healthcare.gov site doesn’t seem to have been a specific target of the attack."

"“If this happened anywhere other than HealthCare.gov, it wouldn’t be news,” a senior DHS official told the WSJ."
And how often do they respond with something like that and then a week later confess that a million customers personal details were stolen including a "small number" of credit card details? :p

Did you not read the bit where they state "does not appear to have stolen any personal data". They are saying they have no idea yet if any data was or was not stolen.
 
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And how often do they respond with something like that and then a week later confess that a million customers personal details were stolen including a "small number" of credit card details? :p

Did you not read the bit where they state "does not appear to have stolen any personal data". They are saying they have no idea yet if any data was or was not stolen.
False. No credit card information was stolen. It was simple web form information exploited by a mysql attack. Nothing that could compromise anyone's medical privacy. Feel free to prove me wrong with a source.

Did you not read the bit where they state that it was only a test server that was hacked and not the main servers?
 

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False. No credit card information was stolen. It was simple web form information exploited by a mysql attack. Nothing that could compromise anyone's medical privacy. Feel free to prove me wrong with a source.

Did you not read the bit where they state that it was only a test server that was hacked and not the main servers?
I was saying that there are countless examples where companies have been hacked and said oh no, don't panic don't panic, and then a short while down the line turn around and say ok, now you can panic. Way to totally miss that though.

When a copmany get's hacked, they always say that kind of thing, it's called damage control, not creating fear, sensationalism, lack of trust. Then once they have actually investigated the issue and have solid data then actually come out and say what really happened.

(look at apple as an example with this recent hack. Apple have stated that it wasn't icloud, that icloud was perfectly secure, yet then they went and upgraded all the security features despite saying the present the security is fine. )

You know absolutely nothing about this other than what they are saying, which means you know nothing. Get off your high horse. I'm not sat here saying anything did happen, i'm sat here saying you're all ignorant to believe from that 1 statement that nothing could have occured.
 

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I was saying that there are countless examples where companies have been hacked and said oh no, don't panic don't panic, and then a short while down the line turn around and say ok, now you can panic. Way to totally miss that though.

When a copmany get's hacked, they always say that kind of thing, it's called damage control, not creating fear, sensationalism, lack of trust. Then once they have actually investigated the issue and have solid data then actually come out and say what really happened.

(look at apple as an example with this recent hack. Apple have stated that it wasn't icloud, that icloud was perfectly secure, yet then they went and upgraded all the security features despite saying the present the security is fine. )

You know absolutely nothing about this other than what they are saying, which means nothing. get off your high horse. I'm not sat here saying anything did happen, i'm sat here saying you're all ignorant to believe from that 1 statement that nothing could have occured.
In return they offer you Free credit monitoring. :wall:
 

TakeTheTicket

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I was saying that there are countless examples where companies have been hacked and said oh no, don't panic don't panic, and then a short while down the line turn around and say ok, now you can panic. Way to totally miss that though.

When a copmany get's hacked, they always say that kind of thing, it's called damage control, not creating fear, sensationalism, lack of trust. Then once they have actually investigated the issue and have solid data then actually come out and say what really happened.

(look at apple as an example with this recent hack. Apple have stated that it wasn't icloud, that icloud was perfectly secure, yet then they went and upgraded all the security features despite saying the present the security is fine. )

You know absolutely nothing about this other than what they are saying, which means you know nothing. Get off your high horse. I'm not sat here saying anything did happen, i'm sat here saying you're all ignorant to believe from that 1 statement that nothing could have occured.
So you know more than the public does about the HealthCare.gov hack? Feel free to share and cite, you rambling paranoid fool.

Don't believe everything you hear from liberal news sources.

"Don't let the liberal media tell you how to think or feel"
It was your source bro, don't link it if you don't like it.
 

Nutes and Nugs

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Why do you care what people are eating ? What would you prefer them to eat...processed food high in sodium and other harmful bs.
I don't care what they 'buy' for free.
They could just be more efficient.
Mom and or dad eats lobsters then cry food stamps arent enough to feed the kids.
 

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So you know more than the public does about the HealthCare.gov hack? Feel free to share and cite, you rambling paranoid fool.



It was your source bro, don't link it if you don't like it.
You clearly don't understand the point at all. when websites get hacked, whether data is taken or not, they err on the side of caution when making their statements. It's how it works. they do not want to create fear, sensationalism, or a lack of trust in their business before they even know the details, which could prove that indeed, nothing was taken. The exact same thing happens with hardware defects. The company will initially make a statement saying "a very small number of devices have experienced... " and then 6 months down the line, suddenly there is a recall.

You seem to be sat there thinking that I beleive data was taken. I am not. I couldn't care less about the issue. I'm simply saying that you have read one statement and take this as inconceivable evidence that absolutely nothing bad occurred, despite it being standard policy for this kind of pacifying statement to be made.

All of that is without taking into account the possibility that heaven forbid, the government never tells a lie.
 

TakeTheTicket

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You clearly don't understand the point at all. when websites get hacked, whether data is taken or not, they err on the side of caution when making their statements. It's how it works. they do not want to create fear, sensationalism, or a lack of trust in their business before they even know the details, which could prove that indeed, nothing was taken. The exact same thing happens with hardware defects. The company will initially make a statement saying "a very small number of devices have experienced... " and then 6 months down the line, suddenly there is a recall.

You seem to be sat there thinking that I beleive data was taken. I am not. I couldn't care less about the issue. I'm simply saying that you have read one statement and take this as inconceivable evidence that absolutely nothing bad occurred, despite it being standard policy for this kind of pacifying statement to be made.

All of that is without taking into account the possibility that heaven forbid, the government never tells a lie.
You've clearly got it all figured out. Pardon the fuck out of me for questioning your wisdom... you're not paranoid at all.. :roll:
 

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You've clearly got it all figured out. Pardon the fuck out of me for questioning your wisdom... :roll:
It is common knowledge... They have even admitted that they don't fully know the extent of the hack ("it doesn't appear" in other words - we do not actually know). How are you so unaware of the process of admitting a data breach?

I don't understand why you have gotten so defensive over someone simply pointing out that that statement does not necessarily mean nothing bad happened.

Or are you defensive because you refuse to accept the notion that the government would ever mislead you or lie or bend the truth?
 
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It is common knowledge... They have even admitted that they don't fully know the extent of the hack ("it doesn't appear" in other words - we do not actually know).

I don't understand why you have gotten so defensive over someone simply pointing out that that statement does not necessarily mean nothing bad happened.

Or are you defensive because you refuse to accept the notion that the government would ever mislead you or lie or bend the truth?
I'm calling you out on your bullshit, thats all. I like facts, you like fantasy.
 

Nutes and Nugs

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It is common knowledge... They have even admitted that they don't fully know the extent of the hack ("it doesn't appear" in other words - we do not actually know).

I don't understand why you have gotten so defensive over someone simply pointing out that that statement does not necessarily mean nothing bad happened.

Or are you defensive because you refuse to accept the notion that the government would ever mislead you or lie or bend the truth?
Who used to sport the quote "Yes the government loves me this I know ,for the TV tells me so." ? LOL
 

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I'm calling you out on your bullshit, thats all. I like facts, you like fantasy.
So you're an idiot who believes every word the government says. Gotcha ;)

I already offered a fact though. they have admitted they don't know the extent of the hack of if any data was taken. You don't seem to want to address that one though do you :lol:
 

TakeTheTicket

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So you're an idiot who believes every word the government says. Gotcha ;)

I already offered a fact though. they have admitted they don't know the extent of the hack of if any data was taken. You don't seem to want to address that one though do you :lol:
Not true. Your conjecture has no weight.
 

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I understand it. It is synonymous with "there is no evidence of". I understand your concerns, but they are unfounded.
"No evidence of" is not a definitive statement. It's a defensive statement. It is saying something could very well have been stolen but right now we have no evidence of it.

And you clearly don't understand my concerns, that would require me to be concerned, it doesn't effect me at all.

But i see, you are indeed one of these people who believe that the government can't possibly do any wrong or tell a lie. I bet you used to call people paranoid when they said that the NSA spied on people.

"no evidence of" is not synonymous with "it did not happen"
 

TakeTheTicket

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"No evidence of" is not a definitive statement. It's a defensive statement. It is saying something could very well have been stolen but right now we have no evidence of it.

And you clearly don't understand my concerns, that would require me to be concerned, it doesn't effect me at all.
"No evidence of" is definitive. Unless you have evidence, it is over and done with.

But i see, you are indeed one of these people who believe that the government can't possibly do any wrong or tell a lie. I bet you used to call people paranoid when they said that the NSA spied on people.
I've been aware for a long time that the designation of the CIA is to spy on foreign subjects, and that the designation of the NSA is to spy on domestic subjects. I'm sorry if this "revelation" was a surprise to you.

"no evidence of" is not synonymous with "it did not happen"
Unless you have evidence that it did happen, then yes, it is.
 
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