all about kratom

So I want to figure out a bunch about kratom. I just took about 5 grams and feel great! There are extracts and stuff,I think I might buy some of that..

Anyways, is there ways to make tea? I love this because its not pills, and makes me feel like I've just been greased up instead of bed ridden..

Recipes to put it in food?

i'm gonna read more about health risks.... What's your guys experience with tolerance? This just seems perfect to take the edge off without smoking so much.. Mood lifter..

Anyways, yeah.tell me about this homies

i just bought an oz of bali for 8 bucks from the kratom king, It seems like the greens give me energy and the reds make me sleepy, mix the shit with yogart or ice cream, taste killer

Yeah I'll probably get Bali,I got that last time a few months ago..so yogurt huh? How much do you take at a time I believe the time before last night I was doing3 grams mixed with water and chugging..it was horrid lol

Make sure to get it from a good vendor. Bali can be awesome, or crappy depending where you get it. kratomforest has bomb bali reserve, but it's expensive. their regualar bali is alright, too. speciosapro, mmmspeciosa, theleapingleaf are good places to get it from.

I personally use the kratom connoisseurs forums to find the best vendors for each particular strain.

I went through a long kratom phase. I still love how different kinds produce different effects. You need to have a low opiate tolerance to get good buzzes from it.

I wouldn't mess with extracts right away.... plain leaf powdered is the way to go. capsules, until you master "toss n wash"

woulnd't use the kratom king. although i've head lately their quality has gone up. they have the rep for the worst kratom.

and I don't know any recipes for food, because I hate the taste... so I just get it down as fast as I can.

After you eat some kratom, you get much higher from bud. think I need to order some.....

oh, and tolerance is a weird thing with kratom. It's kind of easy to control. Unlike opiates. tolerance can go up really high... but you dont want to overdo it with kratom. it will make you puke.

Haha thanks man, I'm looking for an opiate similiar buzz? I know lower dosages are more stimulating, and higher ones more sedating. I experimented with both.

But this time I was something that will be more.. Dopey xD
Which type of kratom is the most sedating? And if you could PM a good vendor for it, or tell me on here.

Last time I got it, it was on amazon. It was good, but I have nothing to compare it too, this stuff I did a couple nights ago was from a headshop, so who knows...

Post some good sites to buy this for me please
I know about it, I'm just stuck spending all my money on weed until my next, next harvest -_- Hopefully by then I won't have anymore fienin issues.

FYI, there's more legal herbs like this, and other stuff like blue lotus and loins tail.

If you want sedating, then go for the red vein strains. Good bali is the most sedating kind/opiate like which is why they recommend that to people getting off opiates. I'd go with the bali reserve from kratomforest for that. theleapingleaf has a good one called red vein kalimantan which is very opiate like. also the "true red indo" they have is good. all the other sites i mentioned in the first post are great. i don't really go anywhere else.

I normally do 6-10 grams... but I like to do like 3 grams, and mix in an extract too. the golden reserve extract that some places have is awesome. just add like a gram, or .75 of that with the leaf. But extracts can ruin your tolerance and are kind of expensive

you should look into buying capsules. you can buy 1000 of them for 10 bucks or so. and you can fit .5 (kratom) in each one. plus they come in handy for other things

Okay so do you suggest red vein or Bali? Or ate they the same? I'll buy it tonight! Thanks for the help man that's like everything I need to know

bali is a red vein. i think it's the same as "red vein borneo", except it's grown on a special plantation or something. I never really got the whole story down haha. But I do know it's red vein for sure.

well i looked it up:

http://www.bikhuk.com/2010/12/bali-kratom-powder-total-relaxation.html

Ordered two Oz of some reserve Bali, I believe it was from kratom forest. Let's see how it goes.thanks

Kratom is cool stuff. It provides a very opiate-esque body high. Very mellow. Also as far as the tea goes, I believe that's the best way to take it. The pills of ground up matter don't even compare. The tea's simple to make. I'd suggest mixing it with some green tea, personally. The taste of straight up kratom tea is pretty crass lol

Happy trails friend

would you recommend kratom if a person already has a pretty high opiate tolerance, it will it have lil or no real effects on such a person?? or would they need to take such high doses that nasuea is more then likely??
thank you..

I do recommend it for opiate potentiation, I learned that last time

racerboy71 said:

would you recommend kratom if a person already has a pretty high opiate tolerance, it will it have lil or no real effects on such a person?? or would they need to take such high doses that nasuea is more then likely??
thank you..

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You should get the full effect of it :] The substance is classified as an opioid so I doubt it will have any interaction with your tolerance to opiates because even though the effects are the same, chemically it's very different. I don't think that kratom could be used to treat withdrawal usefully though. The only plant I know that could be used in a manor like that is Ibogaine. Don't anticipate anything too overly amazing, the highest dose of kratom could never compare to something like morphine, dilaudid, or anything like that. It compares to a taking a few loracets or percocets at best. Really it's just a real mellow, easy going high that's easily available in head shops and on the web.

TwoSpirit said:

You should get the full effect of it :] The substance is classified as an opioid so I doubt it will have any interaction with your tolerance to opiates because even though the effects are the same, chemically it's very different. I don't think that kratom could be used to treat withdrawal usefully though. The only plant I know that could be used in a manor like that is Ibogaine. Don't anticipate anything too overly amazing, the highest dose of kratom could never compare to something like morphine, dilaudid, or anything like that. It compares to a taking a few loracets or percocets at best. Really it's just a real mellow, easy going high that's easily available in head shops and on the web.

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it's just that i'm on methadone atm, only 15mg's per day now as i'm trying to ween myself slowly off and wasn't sure if that would negate any effects that i'd get from kratom..
when you say that it's classified as an opiate, would that suggest that kratom use would pop a diry ua?? i get tested about every 5 weeks or so at the methadone spot, surely not trying to risk a dirty ua for something i don't even know would have an effect on me..
not really trying to risk a dirt at all honestly..

No kratom wouldn't show up on any standard UA's. It's not an opiate. It's a very complex plant that with a lot of different alkaloids with benefits. It effects some of the same opiod receptors as opiates like the delta one and the mu one. I'm really not an expert on that sort of thing. that's all I know. It's a great opiate substitute, and knocks out pretty much all w/d from opiates. It could help you ween off methadone easily. And it's better pain relief than any opiate I've tried. Definitely not a better buzz, though.

Oh my god, I made this tea using this recipe from offline... Fuckin gross. DISGUSTING. EW.. Ah.. Ew..

EW!

Oh well, bottoms up!

hahaha did it go down alright? I've never had the balls to try that. I hear yogurt works good. oh we said that here. you should try that and let us know. I've only tried "toss and wash" and caps.

I tried yogurt yesterday, Id rather do that than this tea.. I have a pitcher with maybe 6 grams in it, its not too bad. But unfortunately I ran out of honey. The first glass was kinda gross, but I'm on my second and its fine tasting. Got used to it.

I'm gonna make pitchers more often though I think, because I can slowly go at this all night. Like beer or something. Except better

But yeah dude I had no problems with the yogurt, you could taste it and feel the 'sandyness' but I'm coming to find out that there is no way around that. I just ate the yogurt really fast and held my nasal cavity cut off so I couldnt taste it.

I do kinda suggest this tea though, its not too bad. I used 8 cups of water, and six grams, lemon juice, and honey. (1 tsp. of lemon juice per cup/ drizzled honey all over it, only had maybe.. 1/4 cup left of it.) Itd be better with more honey for sure. It just tastes like a 7 year old made me some tea without using tea bags

high|hgih said:

I tried yogurt yesterday, Id rather do that than this tea.. I have a pitcher with maybe 6 grams in it, its not too bad. But unfortunately I ran out of honey. The first glass was kinda gross, but I'm on my second and its fine tasting. Got used to it.

I'm gonna make pitchers more often though I think, because I can slowly go at this all night. Like beer or something. Except better

But yeah dude I had no problems with the yogurt, you could taste it and feel the 'sandyness' but I'm coming to find out that there is no way around that. I just ate the yogurt really fast and held my nasal cavity cut off so I couldnt taste it.

I do kinda suggest this tea though, its not too bad. I used 8 cups of water, and six grams, lemon juice, and honey. (1 tsp. of lemon juice per cup/ drizzled honey all over it, only had maybe.. 1/4 cup left of it.) Itd be better with more honey for sure. It just tastes like a 7 year old made me some tea without using tea bags

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Mix it with your favorite tea.

I used Chai and honey. Really helps to mask the taste.