All in.. Let's build a kickass grow room, yayyyy!

cherokee420 said:

For the first run, quantity and quality.
For the second, quality and quantity

I think it's a real winner the autos, especially for CBD. What are some of your fav strains/breeders/seed banks?

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i like attitude seed bank but they are having issues with the banking systems and accepting payments ..........my back up is herbies

all of them are autos
Narcotherapy by cream of the crop .........20% thc 1.4% cbds medical great amount once know strain
Biodiesel mass by advance seeds............18% thc good taste and amount
Sugar Black Rose by delicious seeds.......18% thc medical good amount
THC bomb by bomb seeds.........................18-22% thc great looking decent amount

CBD strain

narcotherapy is the one i used for while

but Yumbolt by cbds seeds ......great stuff if had to guess 3/4% cbds 14% thc (no chemical breakdown of strain as of yet)

That sounds like a great strain!
Sweet dark devil at herbies looks amazing too!

Was thinking for the clones I'll water by hand, but for other 9x9s what do I need for timed drip irrigation?
since both 9x9s will have different strains at different stages, so different reservoirs? I was thinking:

tap hose to RO filter to 60gallon reservoir with air stones
is there a way to easily get water from the 60gal res to the smaller two reservoirs (20 gallons each)?

Once water is in the 20 gallons, submersible pump on a timer, then to drip irrigation timer or...?? thank you

cherokee420 said:

Was thinking for the clones I'll water by hand, but for other 9x9s what do I need for timed drip irrigation?
since both 9x9s will have different strains at different stages, so different reservoirs? I was thinking:

tap hose to RO filter to 60gallon reservoir with air stones
is there a way to easily get water from the 60gal res to the smaller two reservoirs (20 gallons each)?

Once water is in the 20 gallons, submersible pump on a timer, then to drip irrigation timer or...?? thank you

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ok the light system does not make to much heat ....u are going to need a 2 maybe even a 3 ton mini split (keeping the rez tanks cool so it holds air and keep micros in balance )

the clones ...........a cloning machine for the clippings then a transplant into your systems (give choice of ebb or soil )
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_dp_s_web_2972638011?ie=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=Clone+King&node=2972638011

u need 1 tank for each stage so unless u plant to run them all on the same timing u need 2 or more tanks (as for them being different strains it does not matter the plants take what they need )

this is where u need to think a smaller tank will heat faster then a larger tank so depending on your cooling system and placement of the tanks matter........a Co2 burner alot of them use a 55 gallon rez for water to keep the burners from producing to much heat

a drip system with feed in it pumps can clog ..........u should think about a gravity system or investing in a well made pump to cycle the water (gravity seed would be a drain to waste system)

u need to think about how u are going to move the waste water out ( humping it around gets old quick buckets suck ) design a system to allow u to flow it out or pump it out

For yield buhdda magnum auto, its a damn near 90 day auto but its worth it trust me...and not lacking in quality. As a nube i got well over a pound 4 plants under a 600w and 400w in my own soil mix. More like exactly 9, 8, 5, and 4 zips cured is how it went. Justugh has done amazing in dwc...right? Post that link to that plant u had....lol. i am running dwc right now...been watching your organic run a little.

justugh said:

ok the light system does not make to much heat ....u are going to need a 2 maybe even a 3 ton mini split (keeping the rez tanks cool so it holds air and keep micros in balance )

the clones ...........a cloning machine for the clippings then a transplant into your systems (give choice of ebb or soil )
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_dp_s_web_2972638011?ie=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=Clone King&node=2972638011

u need 1 tank for each stage so unless u plant to run them all on the same timing u need 2 or more tanks (as for them being different strains it does not matter the plants take what they need )

this is where u need to think a smaller tank will heat faster then a larger tank so depending on your cooling system and placement of the tanks matter........a Co2 burner alot of them use a 55 gallon rez for water to keep the burners from producing to much heat

a drip system with feed in it pumps can clog ..........u should think about a gravity system or investing in a well made pump to cycle the water (gravity seed would be a drain to waste system)

u need to think about how u are going to move the waste water out ( humping it around gets old quick buckets suck ) design a system to allow u to flow it out or pump it out

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Was thinking trays for the fabric pots
Do they sell the entire Co2 kit?

cherokee420 said:

Was thinking trays for the fabric pots
Do they sell the entire Co2 kit?

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not a full kit

i found something that will work for me but u need a larger system your area to have the tents u are talking about i am figuring on a 15x15 room maybe 12x20

the first thing i would get is a Co2 monitor and get some reading on your area so u can figure how much CO2 production u need to fill and maintain it
http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-Autopilot-Desktop-CO2-Monitor/dp/B008NPA18A

your shooting for a ppm of 1500..........my room naturals is avg of about 720/740 .......so i only need a small amount more of Co2 to reach the 1500 ppm i can work off a Co2 tank system or a small burner unit

here is the buys for my system (replacing the tank filling them is getting to be a bitch)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MPHYCQ
barrel
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055F4WRW/
ice cap remove last of heat
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004JKDPKY
burner itself
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049NUJPU
controller for the burner (turns on and off to reach 1500 ppm)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X07GMW
water pump to handle heat


fabric pots is what i use a tray feeding system would not be a good idea the bags are not ment to sit in water they are ment to let the water flow out if the soil can not hold anymore then the outside about 1/2 inch drys up and air prunes the roots

Ohhh so the fabric pots should be elevated, like on a pallet or something? That's how I do some of them outdoors, they drain a lot better that way. Not sure how this is done indoors. Going to google around. Thanks for the shoppiing list! Would the iponic or Titan controller take care of ppms etc?

cherokee420 said:

What do I need for drip irrigation?
two of
2x 30gal res
2x submersible pump $60
Air stones
2x hose $80-
x2 Telescopic Water Wand $40



Thanks, looking into it now!
What are the pros/cons? I see it's "for people who want to grow with soil with the benefits of hydro", is this accurate?

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The pros are its just cheap and easy, water every other day once established, don't have to worry much about bugs(in my exeperience). It's just another option, but some of us love it. I've done soil and hydro too. I prefer soil over hydro. Too much piddling and work involved with hydro. Doesn't matter much. Different folks different strokes. Just thought inwould mention it as an option.

cherokee420 said:

Ohhh so the fabric pots should be elevated, like on a pallet or something? That's how I do some of them outdoors, they drain a lot better that way. Not sure how this is done indoors. Going to google around. Thanks for the shoppiing list! Would the iponic or Titan controller take care of ppms etc?

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what ever burner u get u need to match it with the same brand controller (how they are designed to work)....if u are tanks any of the controllers designed for a plug (u set the flow rate the plug just opens and releases it in at that rate)

that senor i linked u has programing in it to adjust to different sea lvls .........it keeps a record of what is going on ...along with a second reading senor incase the controller needs adjusting

cherokee420 said:

Ohhh so the fabric pots should be elevated, like on a pallet or something? That's how I do some of them outdoors, they drain a lot better that way. Not sure how this is done indoors. Going to google around. Thanks for the shoppiing list! Would the iponic or Titan controller take care of ppms etc?

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If you don't already have a climate controller and you are going to be using co2, I would just get the Autopilot greenhouse master controller.
You can use any brand of burner you choose, I don't know what justugh meant above. If you go the burner route, choose one that has dual redundant solenoid valves. Most have that nowadays. It's safer than a single solenoid burner.

GrowurownDank - Sounds like a real winner, that Lucas Method, I'm all for it! Any links you can suggest? Tons of info out there. Looks pretty easy!
Does it have to be done with Botanicare, can I use NFTG? looks like it's mostly a "low and slow" method to feeding, using half the recommended etc. I might pickup and oxygen pot system just fthoi, I really wanna run O2 directly to roots. I'm settling on Platinum LEDs, twelve 1200s and four 600s, they're local (as in based in the USA) and have been very prompt/responsive.

JustUgh/Aeroknow- would going with that Autopilot master controller mean I wouldn't have to get all that stuff on Amazon? Do I really need two configs for co2 (one for each of the 9x9s), or would one outside the tents be OK?

What online stores do you guys recommend? hydrobuilder/growershouse pretty cool?

cherokee420 said:

JustUgh/Aeroknow- would going with that Autopilot master controller mean I wouldn't have to get all that stuff on Amazon? Do I really need two configs for co2 (one for each of the 9x9s), or would one outside the tents be OK?

What online stores do you guys recommend? hydrobuilder/growershouse pretty cool?

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i use amazon to link stuff to ppl as it is a global (i can not ID where u are u can not ID where i am)

as for the controller ........kinda of yah with the tents ( u want to place the monitor/controller at bud lvl so the PPMs are at the right amount at the right lvls).......u could get away with it out in the main room but u would need to keep it little higher then the plants lvl and u will need to have venting in the tents to pull in the Co2 and eject the Oxygen ( down side is u will be pumping in more Co2 then u need so propain tanks will go little faster ) but a passive intake on the tent with a simple 6 inch booster fan at the top cycle the air out back into main room


ok if u are going to do hydro ..........get yourself a battery back up (u know they use them for computers if the power goes out to give u time to save work ) a good back up battery and a simple air pump can run for a few hours .........so if the power goes out u can save the plants from drowning


as for stores
HTG supplies ........ http://www.htgsupply.com/Default
Greners .................http://www.greners.com/

are the 2 ppl i done biz with other then amazon (got prime so 2 days shipping for free)

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hey man i sawl this ........share with u i am impressed by it more so then the other unit
http://www.greners.com/i/fans-ventilation-filters/equipment/co2-burners/coolflame-maximizer-co2-generator-burner.html

if u see a controller with 2 plugs in the Co2 monitor yell back .........looking for one that will turn the water pump on and off as needed and the burner

Thanks for the share! I'm still looking at lights, about 7 different companies right now this is a damn hard choice to make

cherokee420 said:

Thanks for the share! I'm still looking at lights, about 7 different companies right now this is a damn hard choice to make

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Dude. Go cheap and set you up a bery small grow. Maybe a small HPS. Or a decent little Mars LED. They will both get ya there. The Lucas is meant to be simple. You can use anything as long as you know how to determine if the nutrients are right. Unfortunately, 99% of us dont really know shit.

So, i just use the Lucas Formula with Maxibloom and a bit if calmag and have to ph up. Also just use tap.

It works great for hempy bucket. Fuck soil. Too many bugs and all kind ither probs.

Fuck hydro. I aint adjusting ph every night. Changing a giant reserviour evry week and wasting more dollas on more chems. Stupid waste of time and money.

Just saying. U need to just do a little something and fiigure out what you wanna do next. We all grow different. I dont hate soil. My banana and lime trees are in soil. Just sayin.

i'm liking what I see with the hempys, going to try it. what about leaving the hempys for 3 weeks at a time? lol You can do that with soil

cherokee420 said:

i'm liking what I see with the hempys, going to try it. what about leaving the hempys for 3 weeks at a time? lol You can do that with soil

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Good point. But stupid. I may be goong outta town October. Hello? You gonna leave your dog in the house for three weeks? Fish!

#FISHLIVESMATTERTOOBRO

#DOGSLIVESMATTERTOOBRO

#PLANTLIFEMATTERSTOOBRO!

Seriously. You dont sound

Competent enough for this responsibility bro!

Seriously man. Lives matter.

one of the big box closet all in one companies said you can leave their hydro system for 2 weeks at a time so i thought it would be possible with soil.