Yeah, but I am trying to get an idea of how fast this problem is progressing (if it is.) I can say that when I looked at some of the leaves you could see little dimples forming around the damaged areas. On some, the top of the leaf would have a little impression - almost as if someone had poked it with a pointed objeect and there was a corresponding bump on the back side, then there were also depression and bumps going the other direction. I can't get a good picture of that with my camera but I wonder if it's some kind of crazy virus? I know one thing for sure, I need to try some new genetics - I love the chocolope but cant take this all the time. I wish I had known how to clone better when I had my alaskan ices - they were so nice to grow!