All noobs read this before switching your light on please.

Lemon king

Well-Known Member
WE ARE all told to grow plants indoors its all about light. for those of us with high tec rooms it is the weed plant that seems alien some argue that in trying to perfect the grow room we have moved to far from mother natures design, especially regarding lighting.

here we look at the two most common methods used.

the big boy cycle 24 hours off constant light from seedling through to the end of veg followed by 12/12 to flower. most new growers use this method or experienced growers who dont know any better, they assume more light the plant gets the bigger it will be and this will mean success which it does to a point.

next up are the 18/6 growers who belive that the plant, like a sweaty human after a run needs a rest so that it can work on making the all important root system,there is definitely some truth in this as plants in nature have a light and dark period, a time when leaves point up and a time when they point down. this is also followed by 12/12…

an obvious advantage to this method is the saving of 6 hours electric, however due to the way most growers start growing without wellies means these systems e often learnd via web sites and chat rooms populated by the eager and inexperienced NOT actual credable gardeners. these wannabe gardeners simply do not know the requirements of the plants they are growing.

YES YOU HAVE BUD but did you use the best method????


The first place to look is also the most obvious resource, the nurturing arms of nature. No were in nature will you find an 18 hour day of CONSTANT light. At best a summers day at its longest will see 16 hours of sunlight, however even when the sun is at its strongest in these climates there will always be shadows from clouds and other trees buildings n all sorts so simply put,


PLANTS IN NATURE DO NOT RECEIVE DIRECT SUNLIGHT CONSTANTLY ALL DAY.


As we are trying to replicate the outside inside, the direct and aggressive application of light for longer then necessary will cause a plant more stress, and degrade a PLANTS genetic strength.


you must have seen your plants pointing to the light like little cups when you turn your lights on and by the end of the day they are just normal, this is because they have had enough, and like a baby need there sleep to grow.


The gas lantern system. A stark fear among many growers is that if there weed plant has too much lights off time in veg, that it will begin to flower, . Before this stage is wanted.


Those who are in the know about the gas lantern system have found that in an ARTIFICIAL ENVIRONMENT weed plants need only 13 hours of light for veg growth.


A statement like that , if true, (which it is) should be an exciting prospect purely for the electric savings and helping to combat other groom issues such as heat. This however goes against they way many growers have been taught by other noon online growers ( not professional horticulturelists


The idea is that the veg phase is broken into 4 parts 12 hours light, 5.5 dark a single hour of light then another 5.5 of dark.


The theory is that weed plant gets ample light alongside plenty off dark time to rest ( think babies eat n sleep reapeated over and over in one day) and work on root growth, stems and overall structure ( things it struggles to do when lights are on)


Due to the single hour off light placed centrally between the two dark periods the plant is tricked and neither flowers or Hermosa due to the light reducing what would have been a strong build up of floral hormones.


In practice the actual growth of the plant isn't stunted as one may fear instead it is accelerated as are all aspects of the plants life.


In the real world of horticulture were they spend millions in research just to get a 0.1% increase on yield it is believed that this system reduces veg Times by up to two weeks. Root systems build faster and stronger and stems and branches are stronger and thicker. With huge electric savings and increase in plant growth it really is an all round winner.


In flower it gets Better


The cycle continues to mirror nature, as the days get shorter and light diminishes, but plants are now super charged with floral hormones (you can see this is true as you should see pre sex pistols all over your girl) and are begging to be flowered


The one hour that's been disrupting there dark period has been destroying just enough of the natural floral hormones to prevent flowering whilst the rest periods has given them enough strength and zeal to finish her life


Instead of keeping plants at 12/12 which is actually the very border of were plants will flower the lights are flipped to 11 on and 13 off after a 24 hour dark day. The extra dark hour lets your girls know that it's definitely the right time to flower. The rest of the schedule is diminishing in half hour time changes mimicking the gradual reduction of sunlight we find on the planet's hillsides.


2 weeks at 11/13
2 weeks at 10,5/13,5
2 weeks at 10/14
1 weeks at 9,5/14,5
1 weeks at 9/15. Or until end of plants life.


The diiminishing light triggers accelerated hormonal responses in the weed plant causing it to flower with more vigor and vitality this continues through the plants life with the final week or weeks being spent in 15 hours dark. THIS FINAL PHASE I PROMISE WILL SEE RESULTS NOT SEEN USING MORE COMMON TECHNIQUES.


Understanding your plants is the best way to learn to grow them and this is an age old HISTORICAL technique. Considering the cost of the lights we run in terms of replacement bulbs (norm every 3rd grow) and electricity we use can all take a massive cut with this technique, this with bigger better stronger plants and bigger yields means you can see this is a real winner. We all grow to grow a good product, using the gas lantern routine you'll grow your best plants yet!!


Considering the recent boom in weed growing since 2000 and it becoming a bit of a normal thing in the world, it is slowly turning into a massive cash cow,(anyone bought a dwc bucket for $50 recently??? You don't see the electric companies complaining.


Look at pro growers not just in the world of weed but in other areas to, you will see current weed growing trends, done to death years ago take dwc soon the floating raft system will take hold but lettuce growers have been using it for years!!


If you take nothing else from this just remember the fact that something bears fruit, it does not always authenticate the methods used and certainly doesn't prove that there isn't a more effective way!!!!!!
 

kinddiesel

Well-Known Member
good post. but as an experience grower trying a lot of different ways, side by side tests. I disagree with most of your post. but experience tell you, to go with what works best for your personal self,
 

Lemon king

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good post. but as an experience grower trying a lot of different ways, side by side tests. I disagree with most of your post. but experience tell you, to go with what works best for your personal self,
i have found this works for me as you say,i have also done side by side tests and if you search this site a side by side test has been carried out and it converted many people.

what is it you disagree with please
 

ricky1lung

Well-Known Member
Where I live the peak daytime hours are 16.5 hrs in summer
and 10 hrs in November.

I tend to believe in natures way of doing things so a gradual reduction makes
sense to me.
 

Sand4x105

Well-Known Member
In the real world of horticulture were they spend millions in research just to get a 0.1% increase on yield
It sounds like he gets a .1% increase in yield...

Interesting...
 

Slipon

Well-Known Member
think you are making this a tat to complicated for newbies, even for me ( I stopped reading half way down)

just drop the damn seed in the ground, keep it simple, plants have done this by them self for thousand of years, no need to over think it, all that work and one mistake can easily ruin it all

Ooh well each to there liking
 

brotherjericho

Well-Known Member
Well, I googled the method...first few links all I found were fanboys of the method with no real comparison grows. I saw some harvests, nothing too impressive. Looks like alot of trouble for those of us who just want to grow using simple methods.
 

raven1290

Active Member
In nature, a plant grows naturally according to it's enviroment. Indoor gardening is different though and part of the reason for indoor gardening is to provide enviromental conditions you could not get in nature. Maybe there is something to your method and maybe there isn't, but unless your saying I can increase my yields by ounces I wouldn't consider it worth all the extra effort of constantly changeing my timer.
 

TentGrower101

New Member
I live in Wa. state. We are at 11 hours of sunlight, by summer solcstice I get 16 hours and that will last for a week. I have to disagree, screw real life shit, blast them bitches with 18 hours enough said.
 

ricky1lung

Well-Known Member
I dont see why people are fools for trying new things.
Considering constant experiments have helped increase yields ( topping fim'ing lst etc)

Allot of people grow as a hobby, different methods feed the fun of it.

Who cares if the yield increases if it stays the same and there are reduced costs associated
with elec bills it might just turn out to be a good method.

But hey according to some people you would be foolish to even try.
 

Commander Strax

Well-Known Member
I would believe you if you had pictures or links to grows with pictures

You have 26 posts and like a third of them are shilling this 12-5.5-1-5.5 gas light thing.


you have given a theory and then the best argument to not believe it.



If you take nothing else from this just remember the fact that something bears fruit, it does not always authenticate the methods used and certainly doesn't prove that there isn't a more effective way!!!!!!
 
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