all sorts of deficiencies surfecing, Please Help

CH2k

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Please help the plant Showed signs of nitrogen toxicity 7 days ago so I flushed with half the pots size of ph water and now Based on the websites I assumed its Nitrogen, calcium and magnesium deficiency but I need to be sure, I got 3 different fertilizers 20-20-20 + minerals (liquid), 30-10-10 ( white powder) and one mineral only fertilizer it label shows low percentages but of almost everything some were super low like copper... (red powder). soil is pitmoss 40 perlite 40 and compost 20 current ph is 6.
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Hollatchaboy

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CH2k said:
Please help the plant Showed signs of nitrogen toxicity 7 days ago so I flushed with half the pots size of ph water and now Based on the websites I assumed its Nitrogen, calcium and magnesium deficiency but I need to be sure, I got 3 different fertilizers 20-20-20 + minerals (liquid), 30-10-10 ( white powder) and one mineral only fertilizer it label shows low percentages but of almost everything some were super low like copper... (red powder). soil is pitmoss 40 perlite 40 and compost 20 current ph is 6.
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Hook Daddy

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Looks to me like your guess is correct. You had a slight deficiency, probably cal, and then flushed all the nutes out and now your plant is starving. Feed her, she’ll bounce back. Good Luck!
 
CH2k

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Hook Daddy said:
Looks to me like your guess is correct. You had a slight deficiency, probably cal, and then flushed all the nutes out and now your plant is starving. Feed her, she’ll bounce back. Good Luck!
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no, I had nitrogen toxicity that's why I flushed, leave tips were bending down and tips were becoming dark green every website pointed to n toxicity, these images are 2 days apart and the flush happened 7 days before today and 5 days before the earlier image.
 
Hook Daddy

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CH2k said:
no, I had nitrogen toxicity that's why I flushed, leave tips were bending down and tips were becoming dark green every website pointed to n toxicity, these images are 2 days apart and the flush happened 7 days before today and 5 days before the earlier image.
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Sounds like you got it then. Good luck!

Edit: Keep in mind that flushing the nutes out will not turn leaves yellow over night, it will take days. I stand by my previous answer, you may have had excess nitrogen to start but by flushing you caused a def of everything. Simply feeding again with some extra cal will help.
 
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CH2k

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Hook Daddy said:
Sounds like you got it then. Good luck!

Edit: Keep in mind that flushing the nutes out will not turn leaves yellow over night, it will take days. I stand by my previous answer, you may have had excess nitrogen to start but by flushing you caused a def of everything. Simply feeding again with some extra cal will help.
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Very well then I start by 1/4 dose of 20-20-20 tonight as it has majority of the minerals as well as I assume (5-5-5) of essentials and Thank you for answering
 
CH2k

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The plant seems to be always light green in new growth but it's growing rather rapidly I assume its healthy, its showing very small leaves all over the stem so I think that's the effect of the lst, I hope she's gonna be okay thank you everyone.
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BongerChonger

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CH2k said:
soil is pitmoss 40 perlite 40 and compost 20 current ph is 6.
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Each photo, the soil looks too damp, almost soggy.
What size are your pots?
How often are they getting watered or fed?

It certainly looks like lockout of some sort.
My suggestion is, you're watering too often. Or the soil's holding too much water. Or both.
Also, that's a lot of peatmoss and compost. I think it's worth testing the pH of your soil, properly, via slurry sample.
If you're dealing with acidic soil, overwatering will only make things worse off. And, you're seeing lockout, since 20-20-20 application.
Could be pH.
 
BongerChonger

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Given it's peatmoss heavy mix. I'd suggest it was sulphur deficiency, before iron. Looks more like sulphur deficiency, too.
Testing pH will tell.
 
CH2k

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BongerChonger said:
Each photo, the soil looks too damp, almost soggy.
What size are your pots?
How often are they getting watered or fed?

It certainly looks like lockout of some sort.
My suggestion is, you're watering too often. Or the soil's holding too much water. Or both.
Also, that's a lot of peatmoss and compost. I think it's worth testing the pH of your soil, properly, via slurry sample.
If you're dealing with acidic soil, overwatering will only make things worse off. And, you're seeing lockout, since 20-20-20 application.
Could be pH.
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I water it when the pot gets light and feed them all weekly, if it looks wet its because I take a picture after watering when lights are on, Ph tests here are quite expansive I wouldn't be able to afford it this month, all I can do is test the ph of liquids and another thing I got a mineral micro nutrients that had iron, sulphur, copper etc should I add that to this one's diet ?
 
BongerChonger

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CH2k said:
I water it when the pot gets light and feed them all weekly, if it looks wet its because I take a picture after watering when lights are on, Ph tests here are quite expansive I wouldn't be able to afford it this month, all I can do is test the ph of liquids and another thing I got a mineral micro nutrients that had iron, sulphur, copper etc should I add that to this one's diet ?
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If you have a pH meter, or pen, you can test pH. Using distilled water and soil sample. You'll have to find the ratio yourself. I use the kits.
I don't think you need to add any extra nutrient, like iron, or sulphur.
Looks locked-out.

I don't think it's a good idea to flush. But, I think plain water's a good idea, next watering.
It's a good time for patience. Try and narrow it down, before changing anything major.

I'd start with drying the soil. Taking a soil sample and testing pH. Then plain water.
 
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