...All Things Vero...

Would you consider buying a VERO after reading through some of the posts?


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Tazbud

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I guess you could use a fuse. Is it flawed thinking that if you ran a heavier awg to the string that the lighter pico wire acts as fuse ie less danger/better frying wires at the cob fixture than somewhere on the way to a driver or in the heart of ur fixture box?
 

SupraSPL

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I was concerned about the tiny picos also. So I hooked up a Vero 29 with a pico AND direct soldered 18 gauge connections, ran it at 2.55A one connection at a time to check for any voltage difference that would indicate a voltage drop in the connector. I measured no difference, so no significant difference in resistance from the solder connection vs the pico.
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You can daisy chain many pico-connected COBs on a constant current high voltage driver with no worries because the current does not stack.

That said, not long after that test I broke a pico in half when taking it off a COB, so they are not very robust as far as I can tell.
 
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AquariusPanta

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@SupraSPL

I'm glad to see you back doing what you do best :wink: I haven't seen much of you around lately, welcome back!

I had my doubts about the PICO connectors when I first took them out of the packaging back in January but have yet to receive any faulty ones, nor have I ever accidentally tore or broke any of them throughtout both my grows and testing and I've been using them purely for sliding around fixtures rather than fixed positioning.

The only ordeal with PICO connectors I've experienced was a few months back when a connector wouldn't properly connect with a Vero 18, flickering when moving the module, and found it was the Vero 18, as the connector clipped into another Vero without any flickering.

In short, any product is susceptible to being faulty, especially when mass produced.
 

AquariusPanta

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Thanks AP good info. I strapped the cable down so it would be OK to move it a lot, the reason it broke was because I was trying to remove the connector from the COB. Probably not something that most DIYers will have to worry about.
O snap! ;)

Were you removing the connectors at the proper angle?


Bridgelux recommends 15 degree angle pulls but I typically go a little higher when switching out modules. Again, I've yet to experience any connectors breaking, so I'm wondering if you just got a dud or were pulling at the wrong angle.
 

AquariusPanta

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Great, now it's only a matter of time before it happens to me! Lol

But I do handle my connectors with the utmost care, as I do for all my wires and components. That could be the difference maker.. or maybe it's an intended fault in the design, built around a scheme to upset customers into not buying more connectors? Hmm..
 

AquariusPanta

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Pretty sure I removed at the correct angle I removed several others before this one broke, but I may not have been being gentle enough. I was wondering how robust they were so now I will treat them with some extra care.
They aren't cheap either, like a $1.50 per for the decent ones, so there's really no excuse on Molex's part to cheap out on the material quality and durability.

:joint:
 

Scotch089

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It's called Planned Obsolescence.

98% of companies include this in their design.

Look at the iPhone... look at tvs... dishwashers... cars... mowers... even led panels... they all have components that will eventually need replaced, or in the best case scenario- taking advantage of the ignorance of an innocent customer-and selling a whole new product to them.

That's why I strongly believe in learning as best you can and being mechanically inclined. Change your own break pads (just did..), change your own oil (costs the same to take it somewhere anymore - but at least YOU know what quality oil and filter are used), fix your dishwasher (just did...), and don't buy the newest fucking phone thst just got released 6 months after its predecessor to have a better camera or features. *eyeroll*

Edit sorry for the rant... just hate the economy government and corporations.... and society just keeps bitching when their phone breaks or a new one comes out, but by God they keep feeding them. Ugh. Guess I don't have any room to talk.. I'm pretty well addicted to having the top leds.
 

AquariusPanta

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@Scotch089

I know right! That's one of the things I wanted to do differently with my business, with selling fixtures, as I've witnessed how quickly companies, such as Bridgelux and Cree, upgrade components and wanted to provide customers the option of upgrading/exchanging modules at a reasonable price rather than limiting them to buying brand new fixtures, which is both wasteful and costly.


Hopefully Greengenes can offer a similar service, one that is both convenient and affordable for customers.
 

JavaCo

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UKpeanuts

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It's called Planned Obsolescence.

98% of companies include this in their design.

Look at the iPhone... look at tvs... dishwashers... cars... mowers... even led panels... they all have components that will eventually need replaced, or in the best case scenario- taking advantage of the ignorance of an innocent customer-and selling a whole new product to them.

That's why I strongly believe in learning as best you can and being mechanically inclined. Change your own break pads (just did..), change your own oil (costs the same to take it somewhere anymore - but at least YOU know what quality oil and filter are used), fix your dishwasher (just did...), and don't buy the newest fucking phone thst just got released 6 months after its predecessor to have a better camera or features. *eyeroll*

Edit sorry for the rant... just hate the economy government and corporations.... and society just keeps bitching when their phone breaks or a new one comes out, but by God they keep feeding them. Ugh. Guess I don't have any room to talk.. I'm pretty well addicted to having the top leds.
A fucking men brother
 
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