(Almost) Everything You Wanted To Know About Designated Providers

mrgreenlungz

Active Member
I have decided to write an 'article' about Designated Providers in Washington State. It seems we have some confusion about them.


A DP is someone you select to provide you with your medication. This person does not need any special license or anything, as long as they are 18+ With that in mind, I have some tips for anyone looking for a provider.

1) If possible grow your own medication. I know alot of people can't because of living situations or medial conditions, but if your concern is you wife is not a patient or your have children in the home. Fear not, the law specifically protects anyone in your home from constructive possession (being in the same room) charges.

69.51A.050
Medical marijuana, lawful possession — State not liable.
(1) The lawful possession or manufacture of medical marijuana as authorized by this chapter shall not result in the forfeiture or seizure of any property.

(2) No person shall be prosecuted for constructive possession, conspiracy, or any other criminal offense solely for being in the presence or vicinity of medical marijuana or its use as authorized by this chapter.
If you are worried about your children being taken, as long as you keep the grow secure and you aren't blazing around them - you should be ok. If you are a legit patient and not breaking any laws you will have your day in court and there will be plenty of people behind you. If you have social workers already involved or a resident with a federal job, this may complicate things.

2) So, you can't grow for another reason or you are still not comfortable around it. 1st things 1st do not choose a provider into actual drugs, preferably someone who only deals with patients. If he gets raided, the cops will automatically think you know about his operation. And we all know what that means "A local drug dealer was arrested today and the police are now investigating his ties to the medical marijuana community. They always emphasize marijuana.

3) Don't select someone who is looking to profit off of your medical condition(s). I don't give a fuck how good the weed is, try to find someone who wants to help. A family member or a close friend is best. Finding someone who only charges supplies is HARD to do. With cannabis having a street value of over 400 an ounce in some places, most people could not give 2 fucks about you needing medication.

4) Paperwork, paperwork, PAPERWORK - I am a provider for my fiancé's father. He is a disabled vet and in the grow room, I keep a plastic multi-pocket folder in a clear plastic bag to protet it from rain/dust etc... In 1 pocket a copy of his recomendation, DL and a copy of a DP form, you can get it free HERE

In another folder I keep a copy of my DL, my expired old recommendation, my current recommendation, and a copy of my paperwork from Kadlec showing where they not only knew I was a patient, but ALLOWED ME to vape in my hospital room (just to piss them off).

When you walk into my grow, the folder sits on a small table in the entrance, so as soon as you open the doors here is a folder that says ATTN: LAW ENFORCEMENT on it. I even listed an emergency number for it. No worries it's a backup cell phone, not my actual one. I keep a copy of all of this in the house locked up and the originals ONLY COME OUT IF A JUDGE ORDERS THEM OUT... PERIOD.

6) Make sure the DP knows what they are doing, last thing you need is a jar of meds that taste like shit because they weren't flushed.

Here is what I told her father. I can grow with any soil/nutes you want to buy but you are buying the pest control I use. I am obsessive about bugs in my zen garden :bong: He made it simple and said he was impressed with my results so just do everything the same.

7) You can not be a DP for more than 1 person at a time. Sorry fellas no 728 patient grow for you (legally). And if you are not a patient, you can NOT grow for 2 patients - in other words it's either you grow for you and 1 patient or 1 patient, however, this is often ignored on the west side of the state where dispensaries operate with no police trouble but if you are in the 509 like myself, that shit wouldn't fly here. As a matter of a fact a guy tried HARD - he tried going about it the 'right' way. He went before city council and told them he wanted approval, tried to schedule meetings with the county prosecutor and 3 days later 'an anonymous tip' led them to his outdoor grow in the privacy fenced home his family grew up in. Later that year about 16 patients sat in his back yard and trimmed his plants with no trouble from the neighbors, one even came over and had a burger. It was obvious his neighbors cared less. Luckily the cops respected the law, they counted his 16 plants (his recommendation was for 40), didn't even take a sample or a picture while him and his young daughter stood there talking to the police. No arrests no warnings they actually respected the law and left. might have something to do with them having to give back everything they seized from him in an ILLEGAL raid years back. His name is Chet Biggerstaff look him up, he is very open about this, fucking news articles with him sitting in front of ounces.

8) If you live in a small area that the cops will crack down on you like I do, be careful not to break the law. I have seen people with 17 plants get drug through court - baby plants outside not even monster plants. If your wife gets pulled over with a bag of your cannabis and she is high, that constructive possession law is null and void. She will get in trouble. I know alot of you may have non medical family/friends you smoke with and I really don't care but please keep your smoke private and discreet.

If you have any questions, I'm here to help. This is not intended to be legal advice and may differ from the actual law depending on when you read this. For more information on the law you can read it HERE and the Washington State Departement of Health FAQ can be found HERE and finally the legal definitions can be found HERE
 

Smokej9009

Active Member
Excellent post.
I am also near the 509 and I CERTAINLY do agree that the west side has a lot of people pushing the law, or willfully violating it to care for more than one person at a time. I'm sure it happens here too, but the west side seems to generate all the negative press.

What if somebody I know has a card, and I have a card, but we both live seperately? Only 1 grow up to 30 plants right?
What if one of us was a care provider for another person? Would you say the residence could only have 30 plants still, unless both card holders lived under the same roof, or on the rental agreement together?
It's kind of something we've been looking into.
 

mrgreenlungz

Active Member
Excellent post.
I am also near the 509 and I CERTAINLY do agree that the west side has a lot of people pushing the law, or willfully violating it to care for more than one person at a time. I'm sure it happens here too, but the west side seems to generate all the negative press.

What if somebody I know has a card, and I have a card, but we both live seperately? Only 1 grow up to 30 plants right?
What if one of us was a care provider for another person? Would you say the residence could only have 30 plants still, unless both card holders lived under the same roof, or on the rental agreement together?
It's kind of something we've been looking into.

You are correct, you can not let me grow my plants at your home without being a caregiver or me living with you. That's what Chet Biggerstaff was doing here. He was getting copies of everyone's paperwork, verifying all patients with the Dr/clinic that wrote the recommendation and what he wanted to do was rent a building and grow all of our plants in it collectively and we all split the bills evenly no profits no nothing and DA said he would basically be shut down if he tried to do it. He was even talking about taking 20% of all the meds we grew and helping out extremely poor patients in other words if you can't afford the meds but could help take care of the plants, your meds would be free or free for someone who was on SSI and in a wheelchair. No fighting about money or any of that other shit. Just sick/dying/suffering patients hepling each other. Hope this helps.
 

mrgreenlungz

Active Member
Excellent post.
I am also near the 509 and I CERTAINLY do agree that the west side has a lot of people pushing the law, or willfully violating it to care for more than one person at a time. I'm sure it happens here too, but the west side seems to generate all the negative press. .


Of course it happens. I'd be just as big a liar and a fool as the DEA is about mmj if I lied and said no we are angels who never fuck up. Put out a pill that will fuck you us and people will sell it illegally, make a place where you can auction off the shit in your attic for some extra money and people will find a way to fuck people over. This is no cause to stop helping people who need medication or shut down Ebay.

1st off there is a big difference in bending the law and blatantly breaking it. I know someone who started from bag seed and planted like 40, they are babies right now and as soon as sex is determined, the males will get weeded out and the extras will honestly go to another patient who needs them.

Big difference in that and someone with 700 plants, other drugs and shitloads of assault rifles and cash. I never try to tell another person how to live their life but one thing I would like to see is people stop using mmj as a guise to do stupid shit. Every time a medical patient gets caught selling to non medical patients, driving and blazing or anything like that - it's all over the fucking news. Just more reasons for the non smokers to hate us, vote against us and turn politicians against us. Great question.
 

StaySmokin206

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Of course it happens. I'd be just as big a liar and a fool as the DEA is about mmj if I lied and said no we are angels who never fuck up. Put out a pill that will fuck you us and people will sell it illegally, make a place where you can auction off the shit in your attic for some extra money and people will find a way to fuck people over. This is no cause to stop helping people who need medication or shut down Ebay.

1st off there is a big difference in bending the law and blatantly breaking it. I know someone who started from bag seed and planted like 40, they are babies right now and as soon as sex is determined, the males will get weeded out and the extras will honestly go to another patient who needs them.

Big difference in that and someone with 700 plants, other drugs and shitloads of assault rifles and cash. I never try to tell another person how to live their life but one thing I would like to see is people stop using mmj as a guise to do stupid shit. Every time a medical patient gets caught selling to non medical patients, driving and blazing or anything like that - it's all over the fucking news. Just more reasons for the non smokers to hate us, vote against us and turn politicians against us. Great question.
How are the laws as far as driving goes? Is it illegal for me with a card to sit in my car and blaze a joint and then proceed to drive or just in the act of driving and blowing?
 

mrgreenlungz

Active Member
How are the laws as far as driving goes? Is it illegal for me with a card to sit in my car and blaze a joint and then proceed to drive or just in the act of driving and blowing?

Technically the law says you can't display any medical cannabis or 'paraphernalia' in public. Blazing in the car is not something the cops even in Seattle would take too lightly. While listening to the scanner here a few nights ago, someone called in a guy on the hwy taking bong rips. In the background, you could hear 3 officers respond with their sirens on sounding like they were doing 125 to get there. Driving high is again technically illegal, but they have to prove you were under the influence at the time you were driving. That's pretty difficult. I fixed it, my fiancé does my driving.
 

StaySmokin206

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Technically the law says you can't display any medical cannabis or 'paraphernalia' in public. Blazing in the car is not something the cops even in Seattle would take too lightly. While listening to the scanner here a few nights ago, someone called in a guy on the hwy taking bong rips. In the background, you could hear 3 officers respond with their sirens on sounding like they were doing 125 to get there. Driving high is again technically illegal, but they have to prove you were under the influence at the time you were driving. That's pretty difficult. I fixed it, my fiancé does my driving.
Well shit yeah that works.. Thanks for the clarification. So basically as long as you aren't an idiot about it flaunting it around while you are in your car it isn't much of an issue..
 

mrgreenlungz

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Well shit yeah that works.. Thanks for the clarification. So basically as long as you aren't an idiot about it flaunting it around while you are in your car it isn't much of an issue..
Exactly, and if you are at a party, all the green goes on the table. Constructive possession (being in the same room) does not count. If you are at a party holding and you get busted, the cops are going to think and tell the news that a medical patient supplied a party with dangerous marijuana - it's the nature of the beast.
 
my family has 5 medical cards, 2 (including me) lives with me and 3 next door.
we live next to eachother, but we are on the same 10 acre development site owned by my great gpa.
because of this, would it be ok to have my grow room, in a different shed right next to the one we currently have for my neighbors, as long as we have different paperwork in each shed?
 

Snott

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my family has 5 medical cards, 2 (including me) lives with me and 3 next door.
we live next to eachother, but we are on the same 10 acre development site owned by my great gpa.
because of this, would it be ok to have my grow room, in a different shed right next to the one we currently have for my neighbors, as long as we have different paperwork in each shed?
yes you can in all honesty the rooms for each script holder has to be seperate
 

medicard

Member
If a card holding patient has room for only 3 plants at his/her home, can another person be designated as a legal provider to grow the remainder of the allotment, providing the grower is not already a provider for someone else?
 

Kodank Moment

Well-Known Member
Would I be able to go into a dispensery here and get my girls meds after they verify she is a patient and I bring in my shit? Man I just need to get my card. But I'm broke. My ankle is killing me.
 

Dubious06

Active Member
Mr. Green, thank you for the shared insight! My wife and I may be moving to WA in the near future and this thread answers a lot of questions I had. Thanks again, cheers.
 

venacular

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Nice thread and explination of the law. Basically the only reason threads like this are needed is because too many people are trying to use this law to grow legally but consume it themselves or sell it. You CANT do that. If you do make sure and act the same way you did when you grew it before the law was in effect cause that's all your doing. I believe the problem is all of the A-Holes trying to make a fast buck. WTF is wrong with people that they need to use a law designed for affordable medication to make money. The day is not here where we can grow for profit and when it is you will have competition from huge corporations with millions to upstage you with.

Medical marijuana is a god send for many so don't be a dic*, and only help those with medical conditions. Marijuana is still illegal for those of you who blaze up with no qualifying condition and there are still law enforcement who would love to take you to jail and waste our tax money.
 

Dubious06

Active Member
Nice thread and explination of the law. Basically the only reason threads like this are needed is because too many people are trying to use this law to grow legally but consume it themselves or sell it. You CANT do that. If you do make sure and act the same way you did when you grew it before the law was in effect cause that's all your doing. I believe the problem is all of the A-Holes trying to make a fast buck. WTF is wrong with people that they need to use a law designed for affordable medication to make money. The day is not here where we can grow for profit and when it is you will have competition from huge corporations with millions to upstage you with.

Medical marijuana is a god send for many so don't be a dic*, and only help those with medical conditions. Marijuana is still illegal for those of you who blaze up with no qualifying condition and there are still law enforcement who would love to take you to jail and waste our tax money.
Wow, but how do you really feel? I'm kidding of course, and what you say is true and unfortunate. What's tough is living in a state where it is not legal, and where they'd rather remedy your ailments by pumping you full of pills that make you a zombie. I've have minor scoliosis and my upper thoracic vertebrae are all worn away, and I live in considerable pain everyday. I have prescriptions for an ungodly amount of pills (pain killers, muscle relaxants, anti-inflammatory's) that when taken leave me unable to function on a daily basis. So I choose not to take them, as I can't function, and instead I grow and smoke illegally. MJ does what nothing else has been able to do for that pain, and doesn't leave me feeling like I've had a lobotomy. I would think my conditions, in the right state, would qualify-- unfortunately I do not live in one of those states yet. I don't sell, I don't promote it to others-- but it's still illegal here. I hope to move in the near future so that I may continue what I do in a legal fashion. Just some food for thought. Cheers.
 

mrgreenlungz

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Wow, but how do you really feel? I'm kidding of course, and what you say is true and unfortunate. What's tough is living in a state where it is not legal, and where they'd rather remedy your ailments by pumping you full of pills that make you a zombie. I've have minor scoliosis and my upper thoracic vertebrae are all worn away, and I live in considerable pain everyday. I have prescriptions for an ungodly amount of pills (pain killers, muscle relaxants, anti-inflammatory's) that when taken leave me unable to function on a daily basis. So I choose not to take them, as I can't function, and instead I grow and smoke illegally. MJ does what nothing else has been able to do for that pain, and doesn't leave me feeling like I've had a lobotomy. I would think my conditions, in the right state, would qualify-- unfortunately I do not live in one of those states yet. I don't sell, I don't promote it to others-- but it's still illegal here. I hope to move in the near future so that I may continue what I do in a legal fashion. Just some food for thought. Cheers.

The best part is my Dr probably thinks I'm on a corner sucking dick to support my drug habit. She's ok with the Dilaudid, Oxycodone, Soma, Tramadol, Morphine and so on but put a seed into the ground right next to a fucking zucchini, and I'm a junkie. Can't fully blame her, she does come from a country where up until a few years ago, possession alone got you the death penalty now it's life.

I truly think the majority of anti 420 Dr's judges, and LE truly believe MJ is a dangerous crime-inducing drug. I did for years. When they pump the shit in your head for years and show you graphic pictures and commercials. It's hard to forget those images - UNTIL - you are old enough to think for yourself.

Told my Dr I have to take 6 Somas to walk during spasms (daily), can take 8 mg Dilaudid and still hurt but can cut that by almost 75% by using MMJ, she told me I had to choose either the weed or the pills; so I did. I am chosing to see another Dr.

About a month ago, I laid an ounce next to my Dilaudid (of course, I was a little high), I just thought to myself about how many people that 1 bottle of synthetic Morphine could kill and then I looked my my ounce and though about all of the movies I would laugh my ass off to smoking it. Needless to say, the weed won again. Peace guys.
 

tjw3232

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Recently after getting raided I ended up having to talk to a lawyer and now they are saying you may only provide for yourself or someone else so NO more then 15 plants 24oz period for 1 person. You can have a 60-90 plant grow op if all documents are posted per each 15 plants and the 15 plants are clearly marked with different color pots and the documents would not be filled out as a provider but as it is your own grow op and you are the one tending it. So you can have your 15 plants anywhere you want as long as they are or "Look" like they are being taken care by that particular card holder. I had 25 plants and was providing for 1 other person and apparently since his documents weren't filled out for just him and his plants were not marked separate at all or I wouldn't have lost em and got whacked charges. It is also ILLEGAL to sell, trade, give your medicine to any other patient but you can accidentally leave it on your buddies table when you leave his house so I would stay away from selling to the dispensaries in Spokane as they are all ILLEGAL... Hope my info helps. Also shiny shit on your windows and no carbon filter doesn't help :P. So just dont get caught or if you do make sure your docs are 100% posted and legit.
 

Slojo69

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I know this is an old post, but one quick question. Does your Designated Provider need to have the recommendation form from me notarized or anything else done other than him and I filling it out and having both our Drivers licenses copied on it?
 
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