Alright round 3.

jonsmith2012ad said:
Yeah it’s the one I transplanted to miracle gro actually.
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Your post said FFOF. Miracle Gro is a different substrate. I was going to call @cannabineer to help as he has used FFOF. You can succeed with Miracle Gro but you have to know when the soil has run out of preloaded nutrients and what nutrients it has run out of.

If you choose to run Canna Coco again I'd be happy to help as that's all I have run for years.
 
curious2garden said:
Your post said FFOF. Miracle Gro is a different substrate. I was going to call @cannabineer to help as he has used FFOF. You can succeed with Miracle Gro but you have to know when the soil has run out of preloaded nutrients and what nutrients it has run out of.

If you choose to run Canna Coco again I'd be happy to help as that's all I have run for years.
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What post are you referring to?
 
curious2garden said:
Your post said FFOF. Miracle Gro is a different substrate. I was going to call @cannabineer to help as he has used FFOF. You can succeed with Miracle Gro but you have to know when the soil has run out of preloaded nutrients and what nutrients it has run out of.

If you choose to run Canna Coco again I'd be happy to help as that's all I have run for years.
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I used FF Happy Frog. It ran out of nutes all at once about 2 months in. I started watering then with General Hydro 3-part and got a great rescue crop.
Now I am on the coco bandwagon, and next time I grow I'll use ionic nutes of my own recipe in drain-to-waste coco.
 
jonsmith2012ad said:
What post are you referring to?
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This one:
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I am a new grower but I recently did this. I started in solo cups and soil and my coco coir and nutrients came in and I decided to transplant. Yeah patience has never been my strong suit. Anyway I decided to transplant one of the three into soil just in case. The soil transplant went fine no shock at all and the plant was perky within 12 hours again. My other two babies I lost, they looked good at first but the next morning they were all but dead. I tried giving them reduced light to nurse them back to health but they’re gone. Needless to say I’m really counting on my soil plant at this point. I would recommend if you do make the switch don’t do all your plants at least not all at once might save you a little something.
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In this thread:
First time grow: FFOF solo-cup to COCO-Coir 3G pot - Please help

I made the assumption since you were discussing soil and didn't disambiguate you meant FFOF. But they are quite similar in that they are preloaded with nutes that probably won't get you to the end of the grow cycle without supplementation.

Also got the impression you had three plants and lost two. Over in TnT you mentioned plants how many do you have now? Are they all in Miracle Gro?
 
curious2garden said:
This one:


In this thread:
First time grow: FFOF solo-cup to COCO-Coir 3G pot - Please help

I made the assumption since you were discussing soil and didn't disambiguate you meant FFOF. But they are quite similar in that they are preloaded with nutes that probably won't get you to the end of the grow cycle without supplementation.

Also got the impression you had three plants and lost two. Over in TnT you mentioned plants how many do you have now? Are they all in Miracle Gro?
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Yeah I’ve got the flora trio when it runs out of nutrients. Right now I’ve got the one flowering and a seedling in coco using gh trio and cal mag.
 
jonsmith2012ad said:
Yeah I’ve got the flora trio when it runs out of nutrients. Right now I’ve got the one flowering and a seedling in coco using gh trio and cal mag.
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I run Canna Coco 50/50 with xlarge perlite. I use General Hydroponics three part Flora series and their CaliMagic product along with a silicate. I can't help you out with MiracleGro as I've never grown in any soil but if you need help I can help on the Coco side of things.

Here's a random smattering of my grow pics. To bad you have no pics of your own. I'd enjoy seeing them.
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curious2garden said:
I run Canna Coco 50/50 with xlarge perlite. I use General Hydroponics three part Flora series and their CaliMagic product along with a silicate. I can't help you out with MiracleGro as I've never grown in any soil but if you need help I can help on the Coco side of things.

Here's a random smattering of my grow pics. To bad you have no pics of your own. I'd enjoy seeing them.
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Here’s what I have. It’s six weeks old.
 

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curious2garden said:
I run Canna Coco 50/50 with xlarge perlite. I use General Hydroponics three part Flora series and their CaliMagic product along with a silicate. I can't help you out with MiracleGro as I've never grown in any soil but if you need help I can help on the Coco side of things.

Here's a random smattering of my grow pics. To bad you have no pics of your own. I'd enjoy seeing them.
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Your plants look good.
 
jonsmith2012ad said:
Here’s what I have. It’s six weeks old.
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Overall it looks pretty good. I see the start of something at the top and to me it looks like you are running out of an immobile nutrient or you could be in a lockout situation. You're growing in soil so what I would do won't help you since I'm in Coco.

One crucial thing with Miracle Gro is never to over water. You have to run on the dry side. The beauty is in time things will get better or worse, so it will become obvious. Do you have a journal I can follow you on?
 
curious2garden said:
Overall it looks pretty good. I see the start of something at the top and to me it looks like you are running out of an immobile nutrient or you could be in a lockout situation. You're growing in soil so what I would do won't help you since I'm in Coco.

One crucial thing with Miracle Gro is never to over water. You have to run on the dry side. The beauty is in time things will get better or worse, so it will become obvious. Do you have a journal I can follow you on?
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No I need to make one I think I’m going to wait until I can run four plants after this harvest.
 
jtrizzy said:
Well this is why. This was the last grow, see how there are zero branches to scrog lol. Just one main cola. These seeds suck balls man, I am trying to change it up to see if I can get them to bush up a little and maybe get a little taller with multiple main colas not just one. If I were to have scrogged these plants in the pic, the net would be have been 2" above the pots lol just to get a canopy. These plants were only 19" - 24"
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The trick to big autos are big pots and veg nutes til the end. Bloom feeds will quicken flower on autos.

About 3 gallon pots are the sweet spot. Early topping helps as well.
 
jonsmith2012ad said:
Here’s what I have. It’s six weeks old.
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Cut those bottom two branches off and add more soil.

I make my own soil. I use something similar to promix. I mix a third each of promix, worm castings and compost.

I suggest espoma garden tone. Great stuff and doesn't burn.
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Spinkle a bit on top and work into the soil about every two weeks or so.
 
So things are going terrible. Ever since I topped the plants things took a turn. They are all showing signs of over watering, no idea how as I am giving the smallest amount of water once a week. 3/4 plants are growing but 1 has stundeted and is curled right over. Same Issue I have gone through the last two grows as well. No idea what’s up again.
 

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jtrizzy said:
So things are going to terrible. Ever since I topped the plants things took a turn. They are all showing signs of over watering, no idea how as I am giving the smallest amount of water once a week. 3/4 plants is growing but 1 has stundeted and is curled
Right over. Same Issue I have gone through the last two grows as well. No idea what’s up again.
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Looks maybe too much nitrogen
 
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