Always struggle in seedling stage

garybo

garybo

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I may be saying something another farmer suggested, but have you, or, do you read your ppm on the runoff water? It tells you a lot about what your plant is taking in, or not taking in.
 
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The Real Medicine Man

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Me personally for sure it tells you if said plant is eating what you're giving them.. Ppm should always be lower on run off then prior to feeding. If not then lockout has occurred
 
Aapoo

Aapoo

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I haven't watered to run off, yet. Damn fungus gnats started picking on me and laughing about it straight away
 
Aapoo

Aapoo

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Will have to make sure they are dry before next water and do that. Shit stays moist for so long in this apartment. Until summer rears its unforgiving head
 
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Mattcheck

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Just out of curiosity why are you adding cal mag to the seedlings? I'm not giving you advice but for me personally my seedlings get straight RO water until they take off into veg land.
 
Dank Bongula

Dank Bongula

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Aapoo said:
I haven't watered to run-out at all yet. When I do water it is when they are light weight, not at any other time. But still, considering all things.....
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Are you saturating the entire medium? They look overwatered...they look like the kind of overwatering you get when you water small amounts too often. I would soak entire medium and not touch for like 6 days and make sure there is good air circulation. I do not think it is the light at all.
 
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Rdickenson

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I'm not very familiar with any other like in flower except for other metal halide or HP s but I do know couple girls ago I transplant it some plants and deer under 200 watts of light and I moved them to another grow room under a thousand watt h vs and they just went to s*** and I couldn't figure it I going I get figured was the move to the intense light so I put them under a 400 instead and they found straight back so if the latest to intense it will mess them up if there not used to it
 
Aapoo

Aapoo

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Dank Bongula said:
Are you saturating the entire medium? They look overwatered...they look like the kind of overwatering you get when you water small amounts too often. I would soak entire medium and not touch for like 6 days and make sure there is good air circulation. I do not think it is the light at all.
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I have not watered that thoroughly. Even after transplant I had no water running out of bottom. Just alot of slow little sips until it was decently heavy. Maybe it wasn't enuf.
 
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Aapoo

Aapoo

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Mattcheck said:
Just out of curiosity why are you adding cal mag to the seedlings? I'm not giving you advice but for me personally my seedlings get straight RO water until they take off into veg land.
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Oh I read that RO water doesn't have these minerals and need them. Maybe I'm to early pulling that trigger? Think you have something there...last year I didn't do that and I didn't have this problem, but....I didn't use promix. I think I like the Fox Farm better at this point. Seems more.....how do you say....earthy and real, for lack descriptive words right now
 
Aapoo

Aapoo

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Rdickenson said:
I'm not very familiar with any other like in flower except for other metal halide or HP s but I do know couple girls ago I transplant it some plants and deer under 200 watts of light and I moved them to another grow room under a thousand watt h vs and they just went to s*** and I couldn't figure it I going I get figured was the move to the intense light so I put them under a 400 instead and they found straight back so if the latest to intense it will mess them up if there not used to it
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Good data brother..You guys friggin rock, all ya'll!
 
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Mattcheck

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Aapoo said:
Oh I read that RO water doesn't have these minerals and need them. Maybe I'm to early pulling that trigger? Think you have something there...last year I didn't do that and I didn't have this problem, but....I didn't use promix. I think I like the Fox Farm better at this point. Seems more.....how do you say....earthy and real, for lack descriptive words right now
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My first grow I used fox farms and distilled water I had to add cal mag in flower due to lack of minerals in water. I don't know something to think about that's all and hopefully a more experienced grower could chime in on this.
 
Dank Bongula

Dank Bongula

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Aapoo said:
I have not watered that thoroughly. Even after transplant I had no water running out of bottom. Just alot of slow little sips until it was decently heavy. Maybe it wasn't enuf.
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You should be watering thoroughly at this stage...I think that is what is fucking up your plants. I got the same size plants and light at 100% and 20in...water every 5-6 days after fully saturating...pick it up & get a feel for the weight when fully wet then let it dry out until your leaves just start to droop. Pick it up again and feel how light it is. This is when you want to water...not going by the top two inches...the top two inches dry fast because they are exposed to the air.
 
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