Am i being crazy or is this a problem

roony

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Light:4ft 4bulb t5
Light cycle:18/6
Soil: 1/3 happy frog/pro mix
Nutes: general organics


So just watered yesterday have a bunch of plant showing deficiencies all light green on new growth i think they just need to be fed 20180328_162856.jpg 20180328_162905.jpg
And is this over watering ?
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Or somthing else?
I did not feed this watering so if it is overwatered and under fed what should i do water agian amd feed or wait and go underfed?
 

Tim1987

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When did you last up your feed?
How much are you feeding? Ppms?
Whats the ph of your media?
The tops look a little bright yellow, to be hungry. I find they're usually just slighly less green.
 

GoRealUhGro

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The ones that are tacoing.. Did u spray them w anything... That could be it.. Heat stess.. Humidity problems ..even hot and dry.. Azamax seems to fo that when sprayed of it... Also check for bugs
 

vostok

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Light:4ft 4bulb t5
Light cycle:18/6
Soil: 1/3 happy frog/pro mix
Nutes: general organics


So just watered yesterday have a bunch of plant showing deficiencies all light green on new growth i think they just need to be fed View attachment 4113387 View attachment 4113390
And is this over watering ?
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Or somthing else?
I did not feed this watering so if it is overwatered and under fed what should i do water agian amd feed or wait and go underfed?
in the past I've done a lot with the T5 system

do understand the T5 has very little penertration

and I've always used a mix of cool whites and warm whites at least in veg

later in bud I went all warm whites

if these were mine I'd be potting up say 3usg no nutes for 2-3 weeks

nute/food consumption is always low as is the light growing them

you can insert more bulbs by adjusting the rack

later at about 12 inches tall you can remove

all lower growth as the light ain't getting down there anyways

this also improves venting too

good luck
 

roony

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in the past I've done a lot with the T5 system

do understand the T5 has very little penertration

and I've always used a mix of cool whites and warm whites at least in veg

later in bud I went all warm whites

if these were mine I'd be potting up say 3usg no nutes for 2-3 weeks

nute/food consumption is always low as is the light growing them

you can insert more bulbs by adjusting the rack

later at about 12 inches tall you can remove

all lower growth as the light ain't getting down there anyways

this also improves venting too

good luck
Im just getting these ready for the outdoor season this year i will be transplating several in 45 gal pots and some in 25gals was hoping to get them sexed before i transplant again they are in 1 gal pots right now i hope they will be okay until then
The ones that are tacoing.. Did u spray them w anything... That could be it.. Heat stess.. Humidity problems ..even hot and dry.. Azamax seems to fo that when sprayed of it... Also check for bugs
I havnt sprayed tjem with anything humidity sucks even with a fresh watering im only hitting 40% temps are around 78°f
On the high sidebeen looking for bugs but no sign i can see and allot of them are doing it and any thoughts on watering again to give light nutes or wait
 

Tim1987

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Imho
It lockout dude
They dont look like that when hungry
Ph of your soil's the first thing i'd check.
 

roony

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When did you last up your feed?
How much are you feeding? Ppms?
Whats the ph of your media?
The tops look a little bright yellow, to be hungry. I find they're usually just slighly less green.
Ive been giving phed tap water that already has 300ppm of god knows what but so far hasnt been an issue last feed was only bio root and calmag 125ppm of each as for the ph of my media im not sure do i just test run off
 

Tim1987

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So do you think it could be ph lock out or did i give to much nutes
If your ph checks out.
You've probably overdone the feed.
The dark tips on the fan leaf, is a bit of an indicator too.
Go by your ph.
Id get a soil sample, from the top and bottom. Then compare them.
 

roony

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Will do and report back if ph is fine should i just let it ride or so i need to take another action being they got straight water yesterday? if its ph just adjust my water ph accordingly to raise or lower ph correct
 

vostok

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Im just getting these ready for the outdoor season this year i will be transplating several in 45 gal pots and some in 25gals was hoping to get them sexed before i transplant again they are in 1 gal pots right now i hope they will be okay until then
so once the daylight outside is the same (almost) as in inside you intend to plant out

check your local sunrise/sunset and you may find that is still some time ..

off tho the planet has just passed the 12x12 thing so perhaps another 3 months?

you need to ask if you can keep these babes in their 1usg pot for aonother 90 days without issue

not me... I'd still be potting up as you don't want to loose all them hard earned volume to waste

good luckl
 

Tim1987

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If your ph is under 6.5, id say just water em dude.
You'll know pretty quickly once you water, if you need more, or less.
Im going with less.
But check.
Report back.



I havnt used promix + soil before, so i cant say to ph your water or not. I'll leave that part to you. Sorry i cant help there man,
 

roony

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Planned on sexing and cloneing long before the end of may so these will begoing back to smaller pots more of them all female at that pointand that should put me quite a bit closer to mid may to end of may until i ween out the males dont have the space for 3 gallons unless i could find taller square pots
 

roony

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If your ph is under 6.5, id say just water em dude.
You'll know pretty quickly once you water, if you need more, or less.
Im going with less.
But check.
Report back.



I havnt used promix + soil before, so i cant say to ph your water or not. I'll leave that part to you. Sorry i cant help there man,
All good man thanks for the info much appreciated
 

Xs121

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If it's my plant, I'll keep an eye on the new growth.

As the new growth mature and turns green, there's no problem. As the new growth mature and the yellowing becomes more pronounce or even a hint of spreading then there's a problem.

If there's a problem then the problem is due to one or some immobile nutrients (micro elements). Definitely not macro elements and mg, since these are mobile elements group. High in the suspect list are; iron, sulfur, and manganese, among the micro elements.

At this point, I'll check 2 things...
1. my ph (runoff in soil)
2. my nute mix and ppm

I'll check my nute or mix and their ppm if any of the suspected micro elements is present or absent. If they are available, how much ppm is in there for each of the suspected elements. Based on cannabis nutrient profile, I'll compare what I have. Am I over or under in comparison to the nutrient profile. Adjust the ppm accordingly if there's any discrepancy.

If the ppm of the suspected elements are sufficient, I'll double check my ph, if somehow I'm locking out any of the suspected elements from being absorb. For example, in soil, at ph 6.4 and below, calcium and magnesium are locked out. At ph 6.6 and above, Manganese and Iron are locked out.

Just my opinion
 
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