Am I right about this?

mario60185

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So I have a friend who has a grow cab thats fairly short. He has one chamber for veg and one for flower. He is planning on vegging until plants are about 6" tall. They will then go straight to flowering chamber where there max height cannot exceed 24" because of space issues?

Is this possible?
 

SlightlyStoopid

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very possible, sounds like a good plan, could even veg to about 8-9 inches tall, wouldnt go much higher then that tho, plants double in size during flowering.
 

420Blunt's

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yea -- but without lst or scrog i dont think the amount of bud will be worth it. i dont usually send mine to flower until they reach 18-24 in.

the longer you veg the more potentency and yield you acquire
 

mario60185

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HE wouldnt be able to do that because of vegging chamber height. Max would be 6". If I understand this right, the final height of your plant can be determined by two factors. 1-how tall it is when put into flowering, and 2-how long it is left to flower? Hes worried that the height limitation will mean nice buds wont have time to form....
 

SlightlyStoopid

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OH! ok ya I gotcha now. ya ya ya, 6 inches would be max you could do with a good 60 - 90 day flowering... dont worry, grow to 6 inches, keep the lights close, and LST all the way until they begin forming buds. They will be fine. If you LST them it will keep the size down alot too =D
 

SlightlyStoopid

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haha its the greatest thing since sliced bread. read about it on here, its basically just tying the plant down as it grows, so that it doesnt grow just straight up (creating just one main stem/bud), instead, when you LST your plant, it will branch creating many more tops and make the plant much more bushy and shorter.

This would solve your hieght problem as long as you have enough room for it to bush out alittle but, they dont need much room to bush out tho.

Read about it. its a wonderful thing. It can double your yeild.
 

SlightlyStoopid

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low stress training. just go to the top right of this page and click search and type in LST under tags and search it, read up about it bro.
 

mario60185

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Thanks man I found it. Ive seen that done before, didnt know it had a name though. He would be using grow bags, so theres no where to mount screws. Hed have to figure somethnig else out.

Thanks for all the help.
 

SlightlyStoopid

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tape works just fine too =) thats what im doing right now too... I found it hard to tie it down... idk why... just was haha

I wrap a string around it then tape it to the side of the pot =D works wonders
 

techgrower

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Hi peeps, is lst the same as super croping where you pinch and bend main stalk to make sides grow out? And I was under the impression that when you flower, you crop when the buds get 70-80% gold brown tricks or the bud loses potency and thc?
 

SlightlyStoopid

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no, buds really dont ever LOSS potency if you harvest to late... I wouldnt harvest until all your ytichs are 90% amber, and yes, lst is the same thing as what you explained, but I dont pinch my stems...
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
plants have the ability to triple in size too, just so ya know. i put my plants into flowering at 11", and now theyre all around 4' tall, lol. If you wanna see some decent LST that isnt following any specific pattern, click the top journal in my sig, and look at the first grow in it. I started tying the plant down when i went into flower. When i put them into flower they were 8" tall, and if i hadnt LSTd them they woulda probably turned out around 2 feet, but i ended up with 11" plants due to the tying down. I did it aggressive though, lol. I ended up with a 1/2 oz from my 2nd plant, and about the same from the 1st, only i harvested way way premature due to a nutrient problem that was killing my plants.


As far as flowering your plant at 6", thats fine, contrary to a couple different posts in here, it wont affect potency, only yield. Youll do just fine though if your just looking to grow a small but decent size sack of personal to see if its worth growing on a more permanent basis. Theres alot of journals you can follow to look as a point of reference, i was just pointin u in my direction because i had some really good success with it.

good luck with your grow dude. wish you all the success in the world. Dont listen to the naysayers, you can flower a plant any time you want within reason man, and your bud will still be potent as its supposed to be, the yield will just be smaller.

Another method you could try is to use a small container. Some people grow their plants in a 20oz cup and veg their plants for 4 weeks in the cups and then flower, and they end up with very small compact plants, that basically turn into one giant bud rather than a plant with buds on it, lol. Theres a shitload of things you can try man, the fun part is experimenting and finding out which way works best for you :D
 

420Blunt's

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no, buds really dont ever LOSS potency if you harvest to late... I wouldnt harvest until all your ytichs are 90% amber, and yes, lst is the same thing as what you explained, but I dont pinch my stems...

hell yea it does! there are peak times to harvest. if you harvest once the plant is almost completley amber -- you have the most of the heads of the trichromes fall off. its an annual plant and after it peaks it starts to die unless your able to send it back to vegging. i like to harvest at about 50/50 amber trichs to give more of a head high. harvest later to get more of a body high -- its when the CBD's and CBN's become more plentiful. also letting it go longer affects taste.

lst is a type of super cropping -- you got lst, pinching, topping, fimming, ScROG's
 

SlightlyStoopid

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hell yea it does! there are peak times to harvest. if you harvest once the plant is almost completley amber -- you have the most of the heads of the trichromes fall off. its an annual plant and after it peaks it starts to die unless your able to send it back to vegging. i like to harvest at about 50/50 amber trichs to give more of a head high. harvest later to get more of a body high -- its when the CBD's and CBN's become more plentiful. also letting it go longer affects taste.

lst is a type of super cropping -- you got lst, pinching, topping, fimming, ScROG's
Its better to harvest later then sooner...
 

mario60185

Well-Known Member
plants have the ability to triple in size too, just so ya know. i put my plants into flowering at 11", and now theyre all around 4' tall, lol. If you wanna see some decent LST that isnt following any specific pattern, click the top journal in my sig, and look at the first grow in it. I started tying the plant down when i went into flower. When i put them into flower they were 8" tall, and if i hadnt LSTd them they woulda probably turned out around 2 feet, but i ended up with 11" plants due to the tying down. I did it aggressive though, lol. I ended up with a 1/2 oz from my 2nd plant, and about the same from the 1st, only i harvested way way premature due to a nutrient problem that was killing my plants.


As far as flowering your plant at 6", thats fine, contrary to a couple different posts in here, it wont affect potency, only yield. Youll do just fine though if your just looking to grow a small but decent size sack of personal to see if its worth growing on a more permanent basis. Theres alot of journals you can follow to look as a point of reference, i was just pointin u in my direction because i had some really good success with it.

good luck with your grow dude. wish you all the success in the world. Dont listen to the naysayers, you can flower a plant any time you want within reason man, and your bud will still be potent as its supposed to be, the yield will just be smaller.

Another method you could try is to use a small container. Some people grow their plants in a 20oz cup and veg their plants for 4 weeks in the cups and then flower, and they end up with very small compact plants, that basically turn into one giant bud rather than a plant with buds on it, lol. Theres a shitload of things you can try man, the fun part is experimenting and finding out which way works best for you :D
Thanks for the help bro.


Do you guys buy the expensive magnifying glasses to see the trichomes?
 
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