Am I wrong????

th3bigbad

Well-Known Member
as i type this im not real sure why im doing it. maybe venting, maybe for some random 3rd person insight, or maybe for some completely self absorbed reason. (for those that dont know me to well,,, i get called that alot lately) i dont think i am at all, i work hard everyday to take care of what needs to be taken care of. im single with no kids, so i really dont have alot to absorb much of my time other than work.
the thing that has me writing this is that my father died over the weekend. it was unexpected altho not a complete shock. he was just 48, but he was a heavy drinker and meth user.
he and i never got along. he and my mom splitup when i was 10 because he would beat her. i would see him every few months for the next few years, he would move in with us when his girlfriend would kick him out. when i was 13 he started beating me inplace of my mom. that was on and off for a few years. by the time i was 16 i was bigger and stronger than him so the beatings stopped, and so did his comeing around. on my 16th birthday we both ended up on the ER. he had a beer bottle broke over his head and i had a cut on my head from a frying pan.
i didnt see him for a few years. i would bump into him at a store or whatever and we wouldnt talk or ever look at each other. i had nothing to do with that side of my family at all. they all pitied him, and hated me for not being around when they would have X-mas parties or things like that.

in my early 20's i started drag racing. he went to the local track and as time passed we started talking again. not as father and son, but more as 2 people that hungout a few hours 2 or 3 times a year.
finally last year i invited him out to a cookout at my house before i headed out on my summer vacation. i take a road trip every summer on my bike for a week. it worked out that he and i were headed to the same bike rally, so we went together. we camped out over the weekend and did alot of talking. we both cleared the air about many things the other didnt know, and atleast in some way bonded.
we talked atleast once a month untill the first of this year. nothing bad happened between us, he just got a new girlfriend. i guess in some way i had gotten used to new girlfriend=me on back burner. i called him a few times and he never returned my calls, so i said fuck it. i stopped calling in feb. the last time i talked to him was X-mas day last year.
then im setting in my office monday afternoon reading the paper, and i see his obituary. he was buried about an hour before i knew he was dead. i get on the phone and start calling his mom,sis, bro, and g/f trying to find out anything i could. i couldnt reach any1 so i drove 45 miles to the gaveyard that his family uses to find a handfull of flowers a few chairs and a big mound of dirt.
when i left there i went to his house to talk to his girlfriend and see what happened. when i pulled up almost every1 from his side of the family was there. by the time i got there it was late and most the people where on their way out, but not 1 person said anything to me. it was like i wasnt even there. when i would say something they would just ignore me and keep walking. i finally got to his g/f and she told me that he had known for 2 months that he was dieing. that he had made all the plans for how he wanted his funeral. (songs, what he wanted to be wareing that kinda stuff) i asked why he didnt tell me and all she said was he was a private person. i asked why they didnt call me to let me know about him dieing, the funeral, or any of that stuff and she told me that his mother thought it was best if i didnt go to the funeral.
my father never made much money and didnt have much. i make a decent income, and only have myself to take care of so i asked her who was paying for the funeral. she said that his mother was, he had left her his bike to sell to pay for it, but she hadnt sold it yet. i then asked the g/f how much it all was going to cost his mother, and she said alil over 6,000.00. keep in mind his bike is a 82 honda worth about 400.00.
i left that night not wanting to stir up any bad feelings at a bad time. i went to the bank this morning and got out enough to cover the cost of his funeral, and took it out to his mothers house. when i got there she was talking to my cousin about my father. i told her i had the money for the funeral. she acted like we were bestest buddies. then i told her wanted the bike because loveing to ride was really the only thing we had incommon.
thats when it all went south. she told me that she wasnt going to sell me the bike, and that she would burn it before i would get it. she added that i was just looking to "rob a dead man". after a few mins of her explaining exactly how sorry of a human i am to me i had enough. i told her that i was trying to be nice and if she didnt want the money that was cool with me.( i was fired up so i cant remember my exact words, but it was something like "if you dont want it im sure there is a bartender and a few strippers out there that will." then she got even madder because she was thinking i was going to pay for the funeral even tho she was curseing me. once she figured out i wasnt she started yelling and throwing shit everywhere. so i split. that was like 10 tuesday morning, since then i have gotten 14 calls from that side of the family wanting to know if im going to pay for it or not.
and thats where im at now. i kinda feel i should pay for it, but i also feel like im a fool if i do. i know ill never be wanted by those people, i know that money is the only reason that they are calling me, but he was my father. what do yall think??? should i just pay for it,,, if so why??? or should i not pay for it and just move on,,,,,if so why????
 
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lynchburgball

Guest
u made the offer, so if u feel like it's up to you to obligate yourself to your grandfather's friend, who was at the time very emotional obviously, then that's upon you to figure out alone. benevolence is not obligation. u were being very generous buying that bike to help out with things and her, and it seems maybe that side of the family's too, discontent with you is un-called for at this juncture. i would not pay but that's me. i feel for your pain though, complicated passings are tough to deal with when multiplied with other stresses. best of wishes to you bigbad, and i'm very sorry for your loss.
 

pandabear

Well-Known Member
very sorry to hear big bad,

that is so wrong what they did to you, I dont think you should give them the money as it seems to me and i dont know but seems to me they will be laughing once they get it.

its pretty messed up,

You save that money for your little boy one day, you will feel soo good when you are a father and have a son to take care of the right way, you buy him a nice bike and just enjoy watching him grow up. that is if you have children in the future.

good luck on your decision. I think this is a lesson that will resonate with them and leaves you totally in the right and then some, offering to pay that large sum and everything and her utter ungratfulness and lack of respect for you, and you finding out about all this from the newspaper is just wrong.

you are the man and the future of your family now, im sure your father was very proud of you.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
sorry to hear of your loss.



sounds like they had it all arranged before you offered them money. let them figure out how to pay it. if it was all planned then the cost should have been figured in also. they will never appreciate what you are trying to do.
 

droski1992

Active Member
as i type this im not real sure why im doing it. maybe venting, maybe for some random 3rd person insight, or maybe for some completely self absorbed reason. (for those that dont know me to well,,, i get called that alot lately) i dont think i am at all, i work hard everyday to take care of what needs to be taken care of. im single with no kids, so i really dont have alot to absorb much of my time other than work.
the thing that has me writing this is that my father died over the weekend. it was unexpected altho not a complete shock. he was just 48, but he was a heavy drinker and meth user.
he and i never got along. he and my mom splitup when i was 10 because he would beat her. i would see him every few months for the next few years, he would move in with us when his girlfriend would kick him out. when i was 13 he started beating me inplace of my mom. that was on and off for a few years. by the time i was 16 i was bigger and stronger than him so the beatings stopped, and so did his comeing around. on my 16th birthday we both ended up on the ER. he had a beer bottle broke over his head and i had a cut on my head from a frying pan.
i didnt see him for a few years. i would bump into him at a store or whatever and we wouldnt talk or ever look at each other. i had nothing to do with that side of my family at all. they all pitied him, and hated me for not being around when they would have X-mas parties or things like that.

in my early 20's i started drag racing. he went to the local track and as time passed we started talking again. not as father and son, but more as 2 people that hungout a few hours 2 or 3 times a year.
finally last year i invited him out to a cookout at my house before i headed out on my summer vacation. i take a road trip every summer on my bike for a week. it worked out that he and i were headed to the same bike rally, so we went together. we camped out over the weekend and did alot of talking. we both cleared the air about many things the other didnt know, and atleast in some way bonded.
we talked atleast once a month untill the first of this year. nothing bad happened between us, he just got a new girlfriend. i guess in some way i had gotten used to new girlfriend=me on back burner. i called him a few times and he never returned my calls, so i said fuck it. i stopped calling in feb. the last time i talked to him was X-mas day last year.
then im setting in my office monday afternoon reading the paper, and i see his obituary. he was buried about an hour before i knew he was dead. i get on the phone and start calling his mom,sis, bro, and g/f trying to find out anything i could. i couldnt reach any1 so i drove 45 miles to the gaveyard that his family uses to find a handfull of flowers a few chairs and a big mound of dirt.
when i left there i went to his house to talk to his girlfriend and see what happened. when i pulled up almost every1 from his side of the family was there. by the time i got there it was late and most the people where on their way out, but not 1 person said anything to me. it was like i wasnt even there. when i would say something they would just ignore me and keep walking. i finally got to his g/f and she told me that he had known for 2 months that he was dieing. that he had made all the plans for how he wanted his funeral. (songs, what he wanted to be wareing that kinda stuff) i asked why he didnt tell me and all she said was he was a private person. i asked why they didnt call me to let me know about him dieing, the funeral, or any of that stuff and she told me that his mother thought it was best if i didnt go to the funeral.
my father never made much money and didnt have much. i make a decent income, and only have myself to take care of so i asked her who was paying for the funeral. she said that his mother was, he had left her his bike to sell to pay for it, but she hadnt sold it yet. i then asked the g/f how much it all was going to cost his mother, and she said alil over 6,000.00. keep in mind his bike is a 82 honda worth about 400.00.
i left that night not wanting to stir up any bad feelings at a bad time. i went to the bank this morning and got out enough to cover the cost of his funeral, and took it out to his mothers house. when i got there she was talking to my cousin about my father. i told her i had the money for the funeral. she acted like we were bestest buddies. then i told her wanted the bike because loveing to ride was really the only thing we had incommon.
thats when it all went south. she told me that she wasnt going to sell me the bike, and that she would burn it before i would get it. she added that i was just looking to "rob a dead man". after a few mins of her explaining exactly how sorry of a human i am to me i had enough. i told her that i was trying to be nice and if she didnt want the money that was cool with me.( i was fired up so i cant remember my exact words, but it was something like "if you dont want it im sure there is a bartender and a few strippers out there that will." then she got even madder because she was thinking i was going to pay for the funeral even tho she was curseing me. once she figured out i wasnt she started yelling and throwing shit everywhere. so i split. that was like 10 tuesday morning, since then i have gotten 14 calls from that side of the family wanting to know if im going to pay for it or not.
and thats where im at now. i kinda feel i should pay for it, but i also feel like im a fool if i do. i know ill never be wanted by those people, i know that money is the only reason that they are calling me, but he was my father. what do yall think??? should i just pay for it,,, if so why??? or should i not pay for it and just move on,,,,,if so why????


fuck that if she wants to be like that take that money and buy your own bike
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
I wouldn't pay for it....you offered and she was all for it until you wanted something (the bike). I say fuck-em..let them deal with it...they had their chance.

On another note I want to send my condolences. I lost my dad 2 days after my birthday 3 years ago. Although you guys weren't as close as me and my dad...he's still your dad and I'm very sorry bigbad.
 

th3bigbad

Well-Known Member
thank you all for your kind words. its a shame that things are the way they are, but i guess they are that way for a reason.
i was pissed when i wrote that last night. since then i cooled down and decided to go ahead and pay for it and just not have anything more to do with those people. i know some of yall think im being stupid about it by paying, but i feel its really the right thing for me to do. if nothing else its buying peace of mind in knowing that i did what i thought was right. no matter how much of an ass my father was he was still my father. i dont want to be on my death bed thinking to myself that cuz of me my grandmother had hard times no matter how hateful is she. if they laugh at me after i pay its no big deal. i dont care what those people think about me anyway.
you reap what you sow, and bad karma will bitch slap those folks 1 day
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
thank you all for your kind words. its a shame that things are the way they are, but i guess they are that way for a reason.
i was pissed when i wrote that last night. since then i cooled down and decided to go ahead and pay for it and just not have anything more to do with those people. i know some of yall think im being stupid about it by paying, but i feel its really the right thing for me to do. if nothing else its buying peace of mind in knowing that i did what i thought was right. no matter how much of an ass my father was he was still my father. i dont want to be on my death bed thinking to myself that cuz of me my grandmother had hard times no matter how hateful is she. if they laugh at me after i pay its no big deal. i dont care what those people think about me anyway.
you reap what you sow, and bad karma will bitch slap those folks 1 day
i change my answer. you should pay. it will make you feel good about yourself. :mrgreen: hope it all works out for you my friend. sounds like you are doing the right thing. :blsmoke::peace::joint::joint:
 

pandabear

Well-Known Member
ya I see FDD's point now, how much better it is that you paid

its the killing them with kindness thing i usually run my life that way. it tends to grow on people and makes them better too. even though "they" may not have been responsible and maybe they didnt do the right things in thier livess concerning your needs as a young man. But it really shows your character when you did the right thing regardless.


big ups man. like I said get yourself a cute kid they are really fun:mrgreen:

I just shaved my 1 year olds head almost bald and he looks badass!!!:mrgreen:
 
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