Sir Napsalot
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't be surprised if some fires are being set by the wackjob far right tho.
Like this guy?
Story here: https://nbc16.com/news/local/sherif...-fire-at-dexter-frisbee-golf-course-this-week
I wouldn't be surprised if some fires are being set by the wackjob far right tho.
The air quality where I'm at is AQI 671, Awful!
That is very cool. What a concept!I am curious about the 'clearing brush' thing. Im over in Michigan and i could see how it would be possible for different environments changing things, but here fallen trees and stuff actually retain moisture far more than exposed ground. In mature forests the floor would be littered with it, so I am just curious if that is not the case out there.
We got to start somewhere.
Im not sure where all the Redwood trees that were chopped down in the 1800's were, I have been trying to find a good map of what it would have looked like back then, but not really sure where to look. Wherever those forests were we should be trying to replant as fast as we can, same everywhere we can. Redwood trees being fireproof is why I am pointing to them specifically, but whatever naturally grows in the area.
It would be hard to find many meth heads that aren't Trump supporters.“The entire defund the police is ridiculous. What are you going to do when there are no police and meth crazed lunatics run rampant across cities.”
Sure sounds like a Fox News headline.
Again the actual defunding argument has merit and perhaps caring for and help the “crazed meth heads” instead of buying more guns to shoot them just may work better? The existing model sure doesn’t seem to be working now does it? The police budget for my city is the highest portion of our expenditures and keeps rising at double digits yet our opioid deaths have kept going up, fueling the crimes we keep hiring more cops to stop ........ just think about that and does that seem logical?
That is very cool. What a concept!
Yes! I love planting trees. That was a beautiful video about saving the trees and maybe even the world. I have lived in that part of the country and it sure is pretty , I would be so sad if all those giant redwoods were burned down. Some of them are so big you can even drive your car through the trunk and there is nothing like the sound of wind blowing through the tops of them. On a windy day you can hear the trees start to howl from miles away and it starts as a whisper and gets louder and louder and the sound shakes the ground and you start to feel the breeze and then the winds and Then it blows right over you and the sound dies down and the wind calms down and it’s a very magical experience .
Because the sock puppet troll said so? Even though there is obvious evidence that it is not the case?I'm sorry the russians duped you. it never happened to me. are you trying to tell me you have 0 left trolls on the entire internet? strange how you only see one side as bad in every scenario. kinda churchy bro.
GFY! Your fucking democrats will not condemn any of this and people are dying. We had a mother and son die when the wheels melted off their car as they tried to escape. 35 known dead and you assholes are still butt
hurt that Trump is president.
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You talk a lot but never seem to actually back up your trolls with any actual information. People can say whatever they want, but just like Dear Leader has shown over and over again with Trump's lies, it doesn't make it true.I can agree that police need to hit a bong before shift....... but when you burn and loot your city and try to set a federal court house on fire and threaten to burn neighborhoods and then neighborhoods burn I'm pretty sure that's how you end up with way more police. just saying guys optics is real. Democrats have lost the optics war sooo damn hard because they couldn't get over their loss. You'll see in November. or maybe I'm wrong. You guys are so damn bad at strategy i'm pretty sure Biden is trying his hardest to lose the race and it makes me wonder why.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/18/joe-rogan-antifa-oregon-fires/
On his latest podcast episode on Thursday, Joe Rogan took aim at protesters in Portland, Ore., calling their clashes with police “madness.” For further evidence, he pointed to the massive forest fires tearing through Oregon this month.
“They’ve arrested left-wing people for lighting these forest fires,” he said on “The Joe Rogan Experience” to his millions of listeners. “You know, air-quote, ‘activists.’ This is also something that’s not widely being reported.”
That’s not true, according to both the FBI and local law enforcement in Oregon. In fact, those agencies have urged people to stop spreading claims that antifa members are starting fires, warning that the misinformation is hampering efforts to battle the wildfires and fueling a dangerous surge of vigilantism.
“Conspiracy theories and misinformation take valuable resources away [from] local fire and police agencies working around-the-clock to bring these fires under control,” the FBI said last week in a statement. “Please help our entire community by only sharing validated information from official sources.”
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The backlash over Rogan’s false claim has heaped more pressure on Spotify, which recently signed the massively popular podcaster to a deal reportedly worth up to $100 million. Spotify also met with employees this week angry that the service is streaming Rogan episodes that critics have called transphobic, Vice reported.
Spotify didn’t immediately return a message from The Washington Post early Friday.
False claims about left-wing arsonists have proliferated as the fires have killed eight people and burned roughly 1 million acres in Oregon. While there have been a handful of arrests tied to the fires, law enforcement has emphatically denied any ties to extremist groups.
“There’s no reason to believe that this is politically motivated,” Tighe O’Meara, the police chief in Ashland, Ore., told NPR on Sunday of his department’s criminal probe into the Almeda Fire. “Anybody that is speculating in that direction is being reckless. … It’s irresponsible.”
The misinformation has led to real problems. When a meme went viral claiming that the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office had arrested “six antifa members” last week, the sheriff’s office was flooded with calls that tied up officers and operators. Unfounded fears of extremist fire-starters and false reports of looting have also led vigilantes to set up illegal roadblocks and hold a photojournalist at gunpoint.
With his millions of followers, Rogan is among the most visible figures to repeat the debunked claim, which has also been parroted by Fox News host Laura Ingraham. QAnon-affiliated accounts have also pushed the conspiracy theory, according to the Oregonian. On Saturday, a sheriff’s deputy in Clackamas County was suspended for making similar claims.
Rogan repeated those false allegations on Thursday during a longer discussion of the unrest in Portland with Douglas Murray, a conservative British author.
“There’s a madness going on there,” Rogan said, referring to the protests. “You want to talk about madness of crowds. … That exemplifies that right now.”
After claiming that “left-wing” people had been arrested for setting fires, he suggested that Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler (D) should be grilled over how to stop them.
“I would love to talk to the mayor and say, ‘What is your strategy for ending this? Are you hoping this is just going to die down?’” Rogan said.
Rogan’s show began streaming on Sept. 1 on Spotify, which also uploaded 11 years of his archives. But the service didn’t include some of his more controversial past interviews, including episodes with conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, Entertainment Weekly reported.
Rogan made headlines earlier this week after suggesting that President Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden come onto his podcast for a debate — an idea Trump quickly endorsed on Twitter. Critics on Thursday pointed to Rogan’s misinformation about the forest fires as a prime reason for Biden to decline.
“I can’t imagine why Joe Biden wouldn’t trust Joe Rogan to be a debate moderator,” tweeted Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America.
#DroughtMonitor map released this morning with expansion of D3 and D4 conditions. The #EastTroublesomeFire in Grand County in the midst of D3/D4 #drought. pic.twitter.com/rioUzdGDPe
— ColoClimateCenter (@ColoradoClimate) October 22, 2020