Yea its always a ouch..but two grand worth of AN will grow allot of bud..first class bud.
AN Connoisseur A+B, Bud Blood, Big Bug, Carboload question
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churchhaze
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For 2 grand, I could buy about 3000 pounds of calcium nitrate.
I could buy about 1500 pounds of mono potassium phosphate.
For 2 grand, I could buy around 2000 pounds of potassium nitrate.
How many acres are we looking to cover here?
I can make literally over a TON of dry nutrients for that price.
(we are talking US currency here, right? not 2 grand turkish lira or something like that?)
I could buy about 1500 pounds of mono potassium phosphate.
For 2 grand, I could buy around 2000 pounds of potassium nitrate.
How many acres are we looking to cover here?
I can make literally over a TON of dry nutrients for that price.
(we are talking US currency here, right? not 2 grand turkish lira or something like that?)
That funny as hell.I know what you are saying.But most of us have limited space to use up that much fertilizer.So we want to max the production of our plants out.We also want the very best quality.Is two grand allot for nutes? Yea..it is.How much is the bud you grow with it worth?I can run around 6 months of AN on a couple of grand worth of nutes.
I can understand someone being frugal but come on..
If you add bud blood to the first week of your grow .This is just a example you have added.In my case around 40 t0 50 bucks to your nute bill to increase your over all production and quality..for 40 bucks?
If you think im kidding try it out..what you got to lose 40 bucks or less?
Their voo doo juice is the best on the market..its only used a couple of weeks in veg and the first two weeks of bloom.Cost around 70 bucks a litre.You would spend 70 bucks to blow your roots out and increase your production?
Mr spliff and farmer john.both TGA growers use the iguana juice line up of AN..the whole line up.Both are first rate growers with first rate products.
Subcool is a first rate grower and trusts these men.
Every plant on this earth has different nutritional requirements.Marijuana is no exception to that rule.
I dare YOU to use just a couple of their products..the bud blood or the bud igniter ..and the voo doo juice assuming your not running zone or h2o2.What you got to lose? a couple of bucks,there is a garantee your money back,so you dont have anything to lose.
A guy if he wanted to could mix up all the nutes in the world with powdered nute bases probably in any npk ratio you wanted it to be at.
I grow dope not make nutes.That company concentrates on making nutes so i dont have to.
If i had a appendix problem i bet i could read a book and do my own appendix operation.But its not my gig.ill leave it to the doctor to do that.
The cool thing..other than Some of the expensive additives of AN.Is a new grower with no experience can pick up a bottle..read what is on the bottle and follow directions and be growing like he has been growing almost all of his life with no experience at all..
I can understand someone being frugal but come on..
If you add bud blood to the first week of your grow .This is just a example you have added.In my case around 40 t0 50 bucks to your nute bill to increase your over all production and quality..for 40 bucks?
If you think im kidding try it out..what you got to lose 40 bucks or less?
Their voo doo juice is the best on the market..its only used a couple of weeks in veg and the first two weeks of bloom.Cost around 70 bucks a litre.You would spend 70 bucks to blow your roots out and increase your production?
Mr spliff and farmer john.both TGA growers use the iguana juice line up of AN..the whole line up.Both are first rate growers with first rate products.
Subcool is a first rate grower and trusts these men.
Every plant on this earth has different nutritional requirements.Marijuana is no exception to that rule.
I dare YOU to use just a couple of their products..the bud blood or the bud igniter ..and the voo doo juice assuming your not running zone or h2o2.What you got to lose? a couple of bucks,there is a garantee your money back,so you dont have anything to lose.
A guy if he wanted to could mix up all the nutes in the world with powdered nute bases probably in any npk ratio you wanted it to be at.
I grow dope not make nutes.That company concentrates on making nutes so i dont have to.
If i had a appendix problem i bet i could read a book and do my own appendix operation.But its not my gig.ill leave it to the doctor to do that.
The cool thing..other than Some of the expensive additives of AN.Is a new grower with no experience can pick up a bottle..read what is on the bottle and follow directions and be growing like he has been growing almost all of his life with no experience at all..
Im not really a fan of this kind of fun.Everyone uses all kinds of grow products the one that catch's the most shit is AN for some reason.
Im not being a smart ass..or trying to be a smart ass..but how many growers you know of that mix their own nutes up from a powder base?I know it can be done.But is it the same quality?
How are you going to mix your own mycos?I know you can with worm castings and bat guanos.But are they the same concentration and types of mycos?
Arnt there scientists and engineers in biology and botany?All they do is mix nutes and study plants.
I used to mix and match from dutch masters(i really like their zone) to humbolt countys own.I like their products too.every bit and even more expensive then AN.
AN is taking their gear to a level you wont be able to do that with it.Especially the connie and sensi you will not be able to do that so much.
What can you say?TGA gear and AN are winning cannabis cups.
Right there it is on the posted site.Mr spliff wins cup ..
Allot of good growers enter their product into cups.All the dope you find in comp at a cup will be good dope.
I do think the whos dope is best can be subjective though.Some people like chocolate..some like vanilla.
Some people like AN..some general hydroponics..I like whatever works the best for me.
When everyone says AN is too expensive . their three part system is almost the cheapest on the market.
No one who is growing with GH is getting hate mail.Just the Over priced AN users.
Its not logical.
It costs 125 dollars in base nutes,50 dollars in voo doo juice,100 bucks or so in Big bud,20 dollars worth of over drive.20 dollars worth of bud candy,20 dollars worth of nirvana.60 bucks of bud ignite,50 bucks of sensizyme and 50 bucks worth or rino skin.total=495 bucks..You could make a run for probably five bucks if you done it right.
Im thinking about trying out a few different brands..like i havnt done that enough already to know what i personally like.
I was getting larger production out of Dutch Masters gold.But i wasnt getting the quality i wanted out of it.
Im not the new guy who hopped in ..thinking wow..i like the pretty cartoon pictures on the front of the bottles.People use it..to include professional growers.
There are allot of growers on here who use ANs products ..maybe even just one of them they like..such as bud candy.Its a good effective inexpensive carb supplement.
Or they will use just the voo doo juice..the shit is outstanding.
Or maybe they will just use the bud blood to pop them buds.
It should say something that so many good growers will at least have one of their products in their line up.
Im not being a smart ass..or trying to be a smart ass..but how many growers you know of that mix their own nutes up from a powder base?I know it can be done.But is it the same quality?
How are you going to mix your own mycos?I know you can with worm castings and bat guanos.But are they the same concentration and types of mycos?
Arnt there scientists and engineers in biology and botany?All they do is mix nutes and study plants.
I used to mix and match from dutch masters(i really like their zone) to humbolt countys own.I like their products too.every bit and even more expensive then AN.
AN is taking their gear to a level you wont be able to do that with it.Especially the connie and sensi you will not be able to do that so much.
What can you say?TGA gear and AN are winning cannabis cups.
Right there it is on the posted site.Mr spliff wins cup ..
Allot of good growers enter their product into cups.All the dope you find in comp at a cup will be good dope.
I do think the whos dope is best can be subjective though.Some people like chocolate..some like vanilla.
Some people like AN..some general hydroponics..I like whatever works the best for me.
When everyone says AN is too expensive . their three part system is almost the cheapest on the market.
No one who is growing with GH is getting hate mail.Just the Over priced AN users.
Its not logical.
It costs 125 dollars in base nutes,50 dollars in voo doo juice,100 bucks or so in Big bud,20 dollars worth of over drive.20 dollars worth of bud candy,20 dollars worth of nirvana.60 bucks of bud ignite,50 bucks of sensizyme and 50 bucks worth or rino skin.total=495 bucks..You could make a run for probably five bucks if you done it right.
Im thinking about trying out a few different brands..like i havnt done that enough already to know what i personally like.
I was getting larger production out of Dutch Masters gold.But i wasnt getting the quality i wanted out of it.
Im not the new guy who hopped in ..thinking wow..i like the pretty cartoon pictures on the front of the bottles.People use it..to include professional growers.
There are allot of growers on here who use ANs products ..maybe even just one of them they like..such as bud candy.Its a good effective inexpensive carb supplement.
Or they will use just the voo doo juice..the shit is outstanding.
Or maybe they will just use the bud blood to pop them buds.
It should say something that so many good growers will at least have one of their products in their line up.
homebrewer
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What you're forgetting is that AN users don't have a clue about plant food (hence the purchase of AN) so how can you expect any of them to 'mix their own' from scratch?
Im not knockin AN at all, I have the GH 3 part on my shelf, floranova bloom on my shelf, jungle juice micro/bloom on my shelf, sensigrow/conni on my shelf, Jacks on my shelf and various bags of raw that I use for tweeking. I have no problem with anyones base nutes but $2000, wow, I just used sensigrow/conni for the first time, 2 1ltr bottles of php sensi grow was $17 and 2 1 ltr bottles of conni was $26, I harvested a pound and have enough sensi grow for 2 more grows n conni for 1, shit worked fine but im not gonna be buyin the entire line, not gonna talk shit if u want to, I just see where this is gonna go, thats all
ScoobyDoobyDoo
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what i don't understand is why some people literally follow AN users around on this forum and bash their product while promoting something else. when i see a thread about a product i don't use or don't like 9 times out of 10 i just avoid it. i know tons of experienced growers that get dank ass buds with AN. last year me and another user on here did a test where we measured the ppm of 10ml of dyna vs. AN and the Advanced came out about 30% stronger while only costing about 10% more.
you aren't supposed to use all of the additives in any lineup. house and garden, dynagro, botanic are, canna, whatever. yes, AN is trying to sell you stuff you don't need. SO IS EVERY NUTE COMPANY! i grow dank buds in soil and hydro with AN.
keep em' frosty!
you aren't supposed to use all of the additives in any lineup. house and garden, dynagro, botanic are, canna, whatever. yes, AN is trying to sell you stuff you don't need. SO IS EVERY NUTE COMPANY! i grow dank buds in soil and hydro with AN.
keep em' frosty!
tooteefrootee
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lol I hear you too but money well spent, I dont have to brew anything and im sure ill be very happy
tooteefrootee
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ha, I knew u might chime in homebrewer 
ive seen your grows and I seen your comparison work and I sincerely applaud you for it. I realize I can go spend sixty bucks and get a gallon of dyna gro, hell I used their mag pro as a boost on my last run and was thoroughly pleased I really want to do and see this for myself, I spent a grand last run on heavy 16. have u tried them yet? that stuff is awesome, my blueberry colas were bigger than barry sanders thighs lol. but I don't mind spending the money as long as im happy in the end. but in good faith, I actually bought a gallon of dyna gro for my buddy just because of your video and will soon see the results in 6 weeks
ive seen your grows and I seen your comparison work and I sincerely applaud you for it. I realize I can go spend sixty bucks and get a gallon of dyna gro, hell I used their mag pro as a boost on my last run and was thoroughly pleased I really want to do and see this for myself, I spent a grand last run on heavy 16. have u tried them yet? that stuff is awesome, my blueberry colas were bigger than barry sanders thighs lol. but I don't mind spending the money as long as im happy in the end. but in good faith, I actually bought a gallon of dyna gro for my buddy just because of your video and will soon see the results in 6 weeks
tooteefrootee
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max seriously bro, try heavy 16 and get the full line with fire.
Its about half to 2/3rd of an's price and seriously my blueberry top colas
were ten inches in diameter under 1000 watt sodiums in an aeroflo.
Heavy 16 is super simple, they dont advertise ph perfect but bro, i never had
to adjust the ph u wont be disappointed promise..
tooteefrootee
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...and most importantly we get it that you don't like advanced nutrients...been obvious for a while...and i feel like people just want to chime in to hate on an...
homebrewer
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Mixing raw salts vs buying AN, I was just pointing out that it's not a fair comparison as there is a mountain of experience and know-how separating those two choices.
Folks like you drive the economy, have at it and good luck!
ScoobyDoobyDoo
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some guys defend their style of growing or their nutrients to a fault. despite overwhelming evidence against them. or even just common logic. makes you wonder.
stay frosty fellas.
stay frosty fellas.
Yea..AN sucks..great looking buds brother.grown with AN.
Now you get to deal with the AN haters.
Their hate is irrational..fanatical.
You know after using several different nute companys products you ever clean the growing media and inspect it really well?Well with most nute companys there will be huge salt build up.With AN no contamination.No salt build up.
homebrewer
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Some people 'hate' AN because their owner is a pedofile (http://youtu.be/CxyhmCcsQZs). People like me are just passing on wisdom in effort to save fellow consumers a lot of cash. It's your money, not mine, and at the end of the day I honestly and truly don't care which path you choose.
Good luck!
ScoobyDoobyDoo
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around here you get the same few guys always bashing An and talking about how great Dynagro is. Just makes you wonder what their motives are.
I dont bash anyones gear.If they have good results and it works good for them..good deal.But what these vultures do to AN and even a post about AN they swoop in and start scavenging.
Ive tried dynagro Its OK.
Ive tried allot of different gear.sounds like i will try some heavy on a run(thanks for the advice tootee)It doesnt look like its much cheaper than the AN though.100 bucks for a gallon of the A and B.
Sensi is 300 for 6 gallons.They dont have as many additives though.
Ive tried dynagro Its OK.
Ive tried allot of different gear.sounds like i will try some heavy on a run(thanks for the advice tootee)It doesnt look like its much cheaper than the AN though.100 bucks for a gallon of the A and B.
Sensi is 300 for 6 gallons.They dont have as many additives though.
Thundercat
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If I could buy it locally this is what I would be using.http://www.envybrand.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=79 I got some quarts of it as samples one time, and it was awesome. It was very clean, well balanced, and everything grew really nice with it. I need to suck it up and order some, I just don't like ordering grow stuff. A friend of mine that can get it near him has been using it for a year or so and loves it.