AncientForest alaska humus to replace powdered humic acid??

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Wetdog

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NightbirdX said:
Cool. I'll be adding it to the lineup. If I water it in when I am letting my soil cook, would you recommend doing it again later before flowering or something?
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Yes, a 1/4 tsp/gallon of water ever 2-3 weeks works great. By itself with a watering, added to a tea, or whatever fits in every 2-3 weeks.

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Wetdog

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dimyself said:
Thanks for the info! It did raise some ?'s though...

Are you saying you basically fill up your 5g pots with your soil mix and then fill A DIFFERENT 5g bucket with just water, molasses, and 1tsp humix?? If so, how much water do you use?

LOL, I have close to 50 buckets. Some with drainage holes, some without. I'll fill up 5gal w/holes with the mix. I'll put 4gal or so of water in a bucket that will hold water and mix up the molasses/humix. I'll use this to wet down the soil mix. If more is needed, I'll mix up another batch. I keep 8 or so buckets full of water, sitting out for 'spot' watering. How much? Till it's wet. Might need 2gal, might need 7gal, no telling and no set amount.


So, I thought for the soil to cook, it has to be covered so water won't evap? Do you cover your 5g pots with soil/water mix? Since you put holes in your pot or if you don't cover I'm assuming your soil dries out before it cooks?
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I don't cover and yes, it will dry out (slowly). When it gets dry, simply make another bucket of the water/humic/molasses and use that to re moisten what's cooking. Depending on how hot it is, you might need to add water every week or 2, or more if it rains. With no plant in there, they don't dry out very fast.

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Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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Wetdog said:
Ancient Forest is NOT humic acid, it is barely more than overpriced peat moss.

http://microbeorganics.com/

Scroll down and find the *test* between ancient forest and peat moss. A real eye opener, especially when you compare the cost.

For humic/fulvic acid, visit www.bioag.com This is good stuff and VERY little is needed, like 1tsp/cf or less. Yes, that is one teaspoon/cubic foot of mix. The small $12 bag will be more than enough. Super quality and prices from these people. Also, check out their VAM (mycorrhizae) along with the HumiSolve or TM-7.

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Well I finally got around to reading the section comparing the Premier peat moss to Alaska Magic humus. I watched the videos too. It certainly does show that the overall level of "life" is roughly equal between the two. The thing that jumped out at me was that the Alaska Magic was far more decomposed (obvs.). After seeing the video I agree that as for microlife the two appear to be equal for all intents and purposes, but has anyone tested and compared their humic acid content? I wonder if the difference is enough to even matter... They're very different textures, at least the brand of humus that I use (Ancient Forest) is, and it retains water a lot more than sphagnum. I may just end up dropping it too, but I'm not 100% convinced yet... almost, but not completely.
 
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dimyself

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Isn't it great that we can have meetings of the minds...comparing / brainstorming on what does/doesn't work?? Knowledge transfer is great! :D
 
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SmokeCraft

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You can get different brands of powdered humic acid for only ~ $10-15 per 5lbs bag/box. Considering that a full SS recipe only calls for it by the tablespoon, this should last nearly forever.


The Azomite, lime, and Epsom salts are both cheap components in that, a few pounds of each will make 20+ full batches of SS. Hell, you can get Epsom salts for roughly $1 a pound at any walgreens, walmart, dollar store, or similar.


The ingredients you want to shop around for, and will be using in abundance are the things like 'Base soil', blood/bone meals, guano, and worm castings.
 
NightbirdX

NightbirdX

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Wolverine97 said:
Well I finally got around to reading the section comparing the Premier peat moss to Alaska Magic humus. I watched the videos too. It certainly does show that the overall level of "life" is roughly equal between the two. The thing that jumped out at me was that the Alaska Magic was far more decomposed (obvs.). After seeing the video I agree that as for microlife the two appear to be equal for all intents and purposes, but has anyone tested and compared their humic acid content? I wonder if the difference is enough to even matter... They're very different textures, at least the brand of humus that I use (Ancient Forest) is, and it retains water a lot more than sphagnum. I may just end up dropping it too, but I'm not 100% convinced yet... almost, but not completely.
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Definitely agree that they have completely different textures. I can leave pro-mix or RO out and it will dry up, where as my bag of AF was left open and I could still wring water out of it. I would like to know the humic content also. This was the main point of me using AF, but as theT M-7 and Cyto seem pretty easy to use and only require small amounts every few weeks, I wouldn't mind adding it to my innoculation, and taking it out of the soil.
 
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Legal Eagle

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For the best prices by far,of powdered humic acid,fulvic acid, kelp meal,etc...they sell concentrated powdered forms,so you can mix your own with water,way cheaper than buying premixed liquids,they ship free too, GO TO KELP4LESS.COM...peace
 
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