And So The Hysterical Bullshit Starts Again

MuyLocoNC said:

We have to hear this from one of the worst offenders of screaming "racist" when it is not applicable? You chuckleheads scream Racism over comments that have NOTHING to do with race on an HOURLY basis on this forum. Are you fucking kidding me?

How many times have I schooled Buck, turtle, mame,redivider and all the other dumbasses on here about the difference between Prejudice and Racism?

Puh-fucking-lease!!

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you haven't schooled me a single time.

maybe in your mind, but the only way to 'school' somebody is dismantling their argument.

you do that by understanding the conclusion and the premise. you have to understand the underlying premise to be able to analyze the assumption made to reach a conclusion. that's the way logical arguments are formed.

all you do is type up some racially charged and scientifically incorrect statements.

that doesn't count as 'schooling'. FYI.

Girdweed said:

Ink the world, your post implies that a reporter(or group of reporters) were capable of uncovering all parties' motivations in the matter of what, a few short hours. From my experience, it takes considerably longer to ascertain a single party's motivators.

Redneck is historically a term for working men, normally caucasian. The term comes from the sunburn pattern found at the base of the skull, connecting through the upper back. This area get sun-baked while working in the sun, wearing a shirt (typically long sleeve), and some form of hat. I didn't have the misfortune of growing up around hookers, gangbangers, heroin, and crack. A few of the folks in the community grew a little weed and we consumed a lot of cheap beer around things we set on fire.
A lot of the folks I grew up with, played football with, still work their own fields. These are rednecks. They don't run around wearing pointy white hats and hating other folks because of race, well, most of them don't. It's Georgia so a few of the folks don't like anyone different than them.

Drawing definitive conclusions from a brief newspaper article is akin to looking at a few bricks outside a construction site and telling someone what the mirror will look like in the bathroom. You are free to make any description you want. Will it be the actual description? Probably not, but that will not matter as the conversation will long be forgotten.

Unlimited viz, time to fly out to the sound and find some new fishing water. You guys try to enjoy internet jousting!

Jeff f., why do you dislike folks with different skin color?

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Let me start w/ commending you on staying civil, I try to and usually do. However I do have to admit that Jeff really gets under my skin. My use of the term "redneck" was pointed directly at Jeff. I used at as slur, just as he has used the term "caveman" and other slurs in reference to people of color or any religion he doesnt tolerate.

By using the term "redneck" I am stooping to Jeff's' level of ignorance. I was wrong, thank you for showing me the err of my ways. In the future I will try to refrain from the term "redneck" in referring to him or others.

I cant stop referring to Jeff as ignorant though, a slur is wrong; but pointing out the obvious isnt

LOL, my how they resort to denial and condescension when they are busted. Ok douchebag/redivider, for the sake of your fragile ego, I'll switch to INFORMED you of the differences between prejudice and racism. And since turtle obviously agrees with me, going by his original comment I quoted, I was right all those times I "informed" you. Thanks for the definition, is that the new tactic? Explain simple terms that your opponent obviously knows better than you, to somehow gain some intellectual high ground? Yeah, leave that shit at home along with your MMGW hogwash. The fact my data doesn't come directly from the NY Times and the Huffington Post, only makes it all the more credible.

I think you buffoons have deluded yourselves into thinking your flaccid, naive comments are actually noteworthy because the five or so of you keep "liking" each others posts. Every time I see it, I chuckle at how predictable and pointless it is.

i didn't give you a definition.

i explained the process by which you make logical arguments.

the only fact I know about your 'data' is that you never care to cite your sources. at least the huffington post and NYT cite theirs.

i'm not talking about the prejudice/racism deal, because 1) i was not involved in that conversation. and 2) I understand that in order to be racist you need to have prejudicial notions and ideas about a certain race. it's not too hard to understand, at least for me.

you guys are here pounding the table about race, when you guys are talking about people's religion. no matter what your race is, if you are muslim, your name is going to be Al Jabal Balabalabadad or some very 'terroristy' sounding name.

and you still haven't schooled me.

Conclusion: We have deluded ourselves into thinking our comments are noteworthy because we keep liking our posts

Assumption: Clicking the like button causes delusions

Premise: because the five or so of you keep liking each others posts.

Your assumption that clicking the like buttom is correlated to delusions is not acceptable because you have not provided a data set from which that scientific assessment can be made. in order for your argument to make sense, then there has to be a correlation between becoming deluded and clicking the like button, which cannot be neither confirmed or debunked by any post you've made since becoming a member of this site, or by any readily available source on the Internet.

that is how you school somebody.

ink the world said:

I cant stop referring to Jeff as ignorant...

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A pile of bricks is a pile of bricks.

NLXSK1 said:

Ok Dan... We have a no-fly list that prevents certain people from flying. Based on your logic this no-fly list is unacceptable as these people can pass the security checks.

Why dont we let them fly? Are we just unfair?

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I'm not sure. I understand the need for international no-fly lists and I'm totally ok with that. However I'm not sure about not letting people fly if they are staying in the country. I don't understand the subject well enough to have an informed opinion. On first glance I disagree with the idea, but it's possible I just don't understand the reasoning/circumstances behind the no fly lists.

Girdweed said:

A pile of bricks is a pile of bricks.

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Yes it is. And many muslim countries use bricks to stone their disobedient women. Pretty cool. I sure wish we could go back to that. Seems like a great idea.

Allah, if you are listening, suck my balls!

Dan Kone said:

I'm not sure. I understand the need for international no-fly lists and I'm totally ok with that. However I'm not sure about not letting people fly if they are staying in the country. I don't understand the subject well enough to have an informed opinion. On first glance I disagree with the idea, but it's possible I just don't understand the reasoning/circumstances behind the no fly lists.

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Originally it was anyone involved with terrorism but it has been expanding.

I think it should include anyone attending one of the many hate filled mosques.

Not all mosques, jusjust the ones that preach direct obedience to the quran.

when you hear one of the hatemonger imams, they are pretty easy to pick out. If we can firebomb a church full ofof women and children in waco, kicking a few douchebag cavemen off of planes shouldn't be too hard

So what,,,about time to be prepared to fear Muslum's instead of old white grannie's,,,Look at the muslum's killing christian's all over the world. i agree! the plane is in control of the "Capt",,,He felt something was not right, and made a choice.

jeff f said:

Yes it is. And many muslim countries use bricks to stone their disobedient women. Pretty cool. I sure wish we could go back to that. Seems like a great idea.

Allah, if you are listening, suck my balls!

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jeff f said:

Originally it was anyone involved with terrorism but it has been expanding.

I think it should include anyone attending one of the many hate filled mosques.

Not all mosques, jusjust the ones that preach direct obedience to the quran.

when you hear one of the hatemonger imams, they are pretty easy to pick out. If we can firebomb a church full ofof women and children in waco, kicking a few douchebag cavemen off of planes shouldn't be too hard

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first of all you are not going to gain any sympathy by promoting the anti-muslim rhetoric that leads muslims to hate us. secondly, i bet you are a christian, and christians tend to believe in the father, son and holy ghost. the father, God, is Allah. the very same god. so if you are religious, that's what you can blame your bad luck on.

last, what the hell would you know about hate-monger imams????? do a google search about muslims being detained/harassed at airports and you'll quickly see a pattern that emerges, the vast majority of them aren't terrorists. this is true for all the world.

there's christians in the US that believe that you should have 20 wives and 100 children. there's christians in the US who sexually abuse children. there's christians in the US who selectively murder. this doesn't mean that all christians are evil. same courtesy should be extended to muslims.

and last but not least, you would not know anything about 'hate filled mosques'. this is because you do not understand the context of conversations happening inside mosques because the arabic language is completely different from romantic languages. sentence structures are different, metaphors are constructed differently, it's a completely different way of expressing your existence. so something that you may understand to be hate filled rhetoric, could be just hypothetical speak used to reference some other subject.

chances are the hate speech spoken about in mosques have more to do with politics or current events, rather than with religious sentiments preached about inside.

so something that you may understand to be hate filled rhetoric, could be just hypothetical speak used to reference some other subject.

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So... How do we translate the bombings? The killing of innocent civilians? Is that just hypothetical speak as well?

You act as if there are no bad muslims or mosques that preach violence... LOL!!

NLXSK1 said:

So... How do we translate the bombings? The killing of innocent civilians? Is that just hypothetical speak as well?

You act as if there are no bad muslims or mosques that preach violence... LOL!!

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you act as if ALL mosques preach violence or that ALL muslims are violent. they're not. and there is no need to generalize them because we haven't ever had any indication that most muslims support the killing of innocents, they don't b/c it goes against their beliefs... the ones that kill innocent aren't real muslims, it's a perversion of religion similar to self-punishing priests who wear spiky chains on their legs, and whip themselves in the back with leather strips with glass intertwined...

don't talk about bombing or killing innocent civilians please. the US has killed more innocent civilians than all terrorists on record combined, by a LARGE multiplier.

if you take that into consideration it's not hard to understand why there is such anti US sentiment over there.

don't talk about bombing or killing innocent civilians please. the US has killed more innocent civilians than all terrorists on record combined, by a LARGE multiplier.

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Oh, I get it... We should just ignore the terrorist organization killing innocent civilians until their numbers are closer to the number of people killed in wars by the US.. You know, just to make it fair. LOL!!

who said I should ignore anybody?? i told YOU to not bring something up, because the same way we can't ignore somebody killing our innocents, we cannot expect muslims to do the same.

until now we're lucky, most muslims don't care enough about the US to do anything.

the media is working hard to create division, because disagreements and conflict make great headlines, and great headlines means good ratings.

you should just take a chill pill and let the muslims be.

you want the muslims to leave us alone then tell the suits having a dick swinging contest to take pro-active steps to ween us off oil, which is what we're in the middle east for.... but that would be socialist, right?????

you want the muslims to leave us alone then tell the suits having a dick swinging contest to take pro-active steps to ween us off oil, which is what we're in the middle east for.... but that would be socialist, right?????

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Naah, I want to DRILL BABY DRILL!!! And that is capitalistic.

I dont need some politician to decide what is good for me and bad for me and 'Nudge' me in the direction they feel is best.

redivider said:

i didn't give you a definition.

i explained the process by which you make logical arguments.

the only fact I know about your 'data' is that you never care to cite your sources. at least the huffington post and NYT cite theirs.

i'm not talking about the prejudice/racism deal, because 1) i was not involved in that conversation. and 2) I understand that in order to be racist you need to have prejudicial notions and ideas about a certain race. it's not too hard to understand, at least for me.

you guys are here pounding the table about race, when you guys are talking about people's religion. no matter what your race is, if you are muslim, your name is going to be Al Jabal Balabalabadad or some very 'terroristy' sounding name.

and you still haven't schooled me.

Conclusion: We have deluded ourselves into thinking our comments are noteworthy because we keep liking our posts

Assumption: Clicking the like button causes delusions

Premise: because the five or so of you keep liking each others posts.

Your assumption that clicking the like buttom is correlated to delusions is not acceptable because you have not provided a data set from which that scientific assessment can be made. in order for your argument to make sense, then there has to be a correlation between becoming deluded and clicking the like button, which cannot be neither confirmed or debunked by any post you've made since becoming a member of this site, or by any readily available source on the Internet.

that is how you school somebody.

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No, that is how a liberal sidesteps a valid observation or argument in a discussion by asking for data that he himself never provides when he is in the exact same position. Condescension and acting like a smug prick are the standard debate tools of Libs for decades. Rattle off how your opponent didn't adhere to the rules that you have decided exist, but you don't follow yourself, would you like a couple of thousand examples? I won't bother because we both know it would take about 5 seconds to find them.

You make unfounded observations based on your opinion on a daily basis, yet when presented with one that makes you uncomfortable or that you can't quite debunk, you try to act like we're in class and all of a sudden your opponent must present every post like they're turning in their dissertation. JRH used to try to play that shit before we ran him off.

As I said, flaccid and predictable.

We still should bring our troops home asap. They've been at this for awhile. Why not let them live peacefully with their families?

Why drill here? We earned or conquered oil in the mid east,,,We should reap the reward's of war...That's why we fight right?,,,Fuck the winning of Heart's and mind's we wan't what is due for the cost's!!!!

MuyLocoNC said:

No, that is how a liberal sidesteps a valid observation or argument in a discussion by asking for data that he himself never provides when he is in the exact same position. Condescension and acting like a smug prick are the standard debate tools of Libs for decades. Rattle off how your opponent didn't adhere to the rules that you have decided exist, but you don't follow yourself, would you like a couple of thousand examples? I won't bother because we both know it would take about 5 seconds to find them.

You make unfounded observations based on your opinion on a daily basis, yet when presented with one that makes you uncomfortable or that you can't quite debunk, you try to act like we're in class and all of a sudden your opponent must present every post like they're turning in their dissertation. JRH used to try to play that shit before we ran him off.

As I said, flaccid and predictable.

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Your an Idiot,,,I'm being Idiotic,,Repuke Loser.