Another Dumb question lol

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ec121

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IndooorGardnerOhio said:
That is kinda the goal, Use the 2 buck autos to learn, then a few months down the line get some better seeds once I feel comfortable with the process.
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You're doing it backwards. Buy the cheap photos and learn on those - then you don't have to worry about when to flip. Flip them when the plant is big and healthy - however long it takes to get there from overcoming growing errors. Once you've gotten good at growing, then run an auto when you know you won't stunt it from common new grower errors.

You should go into your first grow with the expectation of learning, so talking about yielding 5oz is lmao. Unless you have gardening experience with other crops, yield should be the last thing on your mind. Then if you make it close to the finish line and your buds get molded up, you won't be heartbroken.
 
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IndooorGardnerOhio

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ec121 said:
You're doing it backwards. Buy the cheap photos and learn on those - then you don't have to worry about when to flip. Flip them when the plant is big and healthy - however long it takes to get there from overcoming growing errors. Once you've gotten good at growing, then run an auto when you know you won't stunt it from common new grower errors.

You should go into your first grow with the expectation of learning, so talking about yielding 5oz is lmao. Unless you have gardening experience with other crops, yield should be the last thing on your mind. Then if you make it close to the finish line and your buds get molded up, you won't be heartbroken.
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I have been a Gardener of other crops for over 25 years, everything from tomatos and Pepper to Sweet Potatoes and Goji Berries and Herbs for cooking, I have done indoor gardening of food as well, im no stranger to plants in general, just never grown THIS plant before lol. Yield with any crop is always my first thought.
 
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ec121

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IndooorGardnerOhio said:
I have been a Gardener of other crops for over 25 years, everything from tomatos and Pepper to Sweet Potatoes and Goji Berries and Herbs for cooking, I have done indoor gardening of food as well, im no stranger to plants in general, just never grown THIS plant before lol. Yield with any crop is always my first thought.
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THIS plant is just another herbaceous plant like the other herbaceous plants you've grown before. It's kind of surprising that you're buying shit seeds and worried about fatal grower mistakes when you have over 25 years of, presumably successful, growing experience.
 
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IndooorGardnerOhio

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ec121 said:
THIS plant is just another herbaceous plant like the other herbaceous plants you've grown before. It's kind of surprising that you're buying shit seeds and worried about fatal grower mistakes when you have over 25 years of, presumably successful, growing experience.
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I do with every new plant, beause while ya they are all plants, they are all differnt and sensitive to differnt things, what may double yeilds with tomatoes would kill an orchid. So with any new plant, I learn on cheap seeds, and when i can push good quality and decent yields out of a cheap seed then i move on to the more expensive heirloom seeds. It saves me getting pissed, in this case, over killing a 17 dollar seed. lol
 
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ec121

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IndooorGardnerOhio said:
I do with every new plant, beause while ya they are all plants, they are all differnt and sensitive to differnt things, what may double yeilds with tomatoes would kill an orchid. So with any new plant, I learn on cheap seeds, and when i can push good quality and decent yields out of a cheap seed then i move on to the more expensive heirloom seeds. It saves me getting pissed, in this case, over killing a 17 dollar seed. lol
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Well, it's science, but it's not rocket science. I could see this trepidation if you only grew tomatoes before, but it sounds like you've grown dozens of different types of plants, so I wouldn't guess you would start blasting a cannabis seedling with 600 PPFD because you heard that cannabis likes light. Even if you did, your general plant sense would notice something is up quickly and rectify it before it dies. In any case, happy growing, and let's hope those seeds aren't herm-prone.
 
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IndooorGardnerOhio

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ec121 said:
Well, it's science, but it's not rocket science. I could see this trepidation if you only grew tomatoes before, but it sounds like you've grown dozens of different types of plants, so I wouldn't guess you would start blasting a cannabis seedling with 600 PPFD because you heard that cannabis likes light. Even if you did, your general plant sense would notice something is up quickly and rectify it before it dies. In any case, happy growing, and let's hope those seeds aren't herm-prone.
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I always research every new plant to death, im a super nerd. This is just normal level research for me, I spent a month researching sweet potatoes before I planted my first one, and I yielded 8lbs of one plant in a container. I worry, its my thing lol
 
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IndooorGardnerOhio

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ec121 said:
THIS plant is just another herbaceous plant like the other herbaceous plants you've grown before. It's kind of surprising that you're buying shit seeds and worried about fatal grower mistakes when you have over 25 years of, presumably successful, growing experience.
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As far as the seed choice, that was part choice, but the bigger part was limited funds and I had to buy all the equiptment as well, only thing that was usable from in tent that broke down was one fan and the planters. So that was a huge part of my very limited budget gone on hardware, I needed to come in under 40 bucks on seeds after all the other stuff. So NASC 2 dollar menu to the rescue.
 
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Billy the Mountain

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IndooorGardnerOhio said:
I always research every new plant to death, im a super nerd. This is just normal level research for me, I spent a month researching sweet potatoes before I planted my first one, and I yielded 8lbs of one plant in a container. I worry, its my thing lol
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By far the best advise I've read or followed is to treat a cannabis plant just like a tomato or pepper plant.
In hindsight, that was excellent advise, and has served me well for quite some time.
There's nothing inherently unique about cannabis from a grower's perspective.
I stumbled across weed forums to learn about drying and curing, a topic not covered much in my general hydroponic and growing books.
 
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Phytoplankton

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With a tent that size, the yields between photos/autos will be close. Your limiting factor is height. Figure you've got pots that are 12" inches tall, so now your down to 43 inches, then there's a certain amount of space between the light and the tent roof you have to have for fire safety (varies by manufacturer), then there's the minimum space between the light and the plant. By the time you factor all that in (plus stretch) you HAVE to do some training. Yes, you can top autos and they respond well to LST. I've grown a lot of autos and averge between 4-6 oz/plant, though my tent is 84" tall.
 
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IndooorGardnerOhio

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Phytoplankton said:
With a tent that size, the yields between photos/autos will be close. Your limiting factor is height. Figure you've got pots that are 12" inches tall, so now your down to 43 inches, then there's a certain amount of space between the light and the tent roof you have to have for fire safety (varies by manufacturer), then there's the minimum space between the light and the plant. By the time you factor all that in (plus stretch) you HAVE to do some training. Yes, you can top autos and they respond well to LST. I've grown a lot of autos and averge between 4-6 oz/plant, though my tent is 84" tall.
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Its worth noting, the Tent I was getting changed, I found a Bigger tent, Still with metal joints for cheaper, so the tent will now be 31x32x63, Not a LOT bigger but I do have some more height to play with.
 
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IndooorGardnerOhio

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Syntax747 said:
3 seeds for $100? You sure? I get all my seeds from NASC and on average I will pay upwards of $45 for 3 and that's for decent genetics.
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Oh that was not on NASC, that was on a differnt sight that was suggested to me on facebook, ILGM I believe was the name of it, dude swore they were top genetics so I looked at the site and was like NOPE. Oh it was 10 seeds for like 109, but they have a deal now buy ten get ten for 100, but still 20 seeds for 100 bucks, I can get 50 seeds for 100 on the 2 dollar menu at NASC. Yes I really am this poor.
 
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IndooorGardnerOhio

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Billy the Mountain said:
By far the best advise I've read or followed is to treat a cannabis plant just like a tomato or pepper plant.
In hindsight, that was excellent advise, and has served me well for quite some time.
There's nothing inherently unique about cannabis from a grower's perspective.
I stumbled across weed forums to learn about drying and curing, a topic not covered much in my general hydroponic and growing books.
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Well, If All I need to do is treat it like I treat tomatoes, then I should end up with a SHIT LOAD of buds my tomato plants are always huge and yield about 30 to 50lbs by the end of the season per plant, but I push them HARD.
 
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