SiRStonedAlot
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Whats up RIU. Week end of week 4 flowering here (entering week 5 tomorrow), and running into a bit of intern-veinal yellowing that I'm leaning toward a Mg deficency on, and I'd like some other opinions on the matter.
This is my 3rd run in the current setup and the last 2 runs have been hell with Salt based nutes (AN, botanicaire) and improper watering (no runoff) causing many lockout problems due to salt buildup. I've then swiched over to the organics world because I want to keep it simple, and not kill off the microherd with a bunch of salts @ 1000ppm (1/2 recommended dose lol).
So this run I've mix up a base soil with FFOF, a dash of dolamite lime, 20% chunky perelite, and a tiny pinch of epsom salt. I didn't feed my girls anything but RO'd water all the way throug veg (0ppm) and they THRIVED, they were in 1 gallon pots for 14 days and really took off because I crammed them under a 600MH in a closet pumped full of co2 (and they were VERY ROOTED clones from an aero cloner so they took off quickly). I transplanted them all to 3 OR 5 gallon pots (depending on availablity) in the same FFOF mixup as veg.
After 1st week of Flowering was over, and the girls started to turn I brewed up a nice Jamacian BatGuano tea (2/3 cup), EWC (2/3 cup), 25ml Liquid carma, 4TBSP Humbolt Honey ES, and a pinch of dolamite all brewing in a 5gallon bucket with an airstone (the poop in a paint trainer bag). Let brew for 48hrs, checked ph (6.5), measured PPM for shits and giggles (600ppm)- mixed a glass of 20% RO water 80% tea, came to roughly 500ppm. The entire week following they recieved only RO Water every other day (im in a dry climate, they drink a lot, my pots are light every other day and top layer of soil is dry). I did NOT add any cal/mag to my RO water (possible mistake). After 7days of plain water I fed the girls a bit of Hydrozyme between 2.5 and week 3. I then made a round 2 Tea with Jamaican Guano (1/2 cup), EWC (1/2cup), 20ml Karma, 3TBSP Roots Organic HPK (bloom booster 0-4-5) to get a source of organic potassium, and 3tbsp hombolt honey ES, pinch of D.Lime. Checked Ph, 6.5, ppm 825. Diluted to 625 and fed through with good runoff. They've since recieved another week of plain RO water, with good runoff.
I'm starting to see the interveinal yellowing that makes me believe these bitches have run out of lime in the soil and are lacking because I'm flushing them too hard with 0ppm RO water (being cautious about not overdoing the nutrients this run to keep my plants healthy, focusing on feeding the microherd/soil rather than the plant herself).
Ok so here are a bunch of shots I took. And last night after freaking I stay up till 8am before lights out, to give them a dousing of epsomsalt 2/3rd's Teaspoon in 1qt sprayer in 0ppm RO water - came out to 250ppm @ 6.7ph.
I picked up some General ORganics CaMg+ today, but didnt want to hit the soil with it because I just watered yesterday with good runoff and the pots are still heavy and top is pretty moist, but I figured I'd throw these pics up, get some ideas, and hopefully resolve the problem and update with some good results..
Sorry if this is a lot of info, It has to be a bit better than little or no info.
Oh BTW, I've got 4-600's 1-1000 HPS, and 1 Spectra300 LED on a rail for supplemental.
Temps are 80, RH 40, Co2 average 1000ppm (600-1500 range) I've got an AC, good circulation, no bugs, daily attention.
2 strains (La Confidential, Blue Banana), problems starting to show onset on both breeds, but half of the bunch are showing no signs as of yet.
Help me treat my girls right!
Thanks RIU!!
~SSA
the top of a different one, can kinda see it starting possible on a couple big fans? or am I fuckin paranoid.
here's one I pulled out from under the lights, u can see the one I circled, has this similar stripping pretty prominent.
Here's a shot of one that is so far pretty flawless, showing no signs of abuse (no burnt tips that I can see, nor yellowing of anykind).
LACon
Here's a shot of the whole Gang.
759am 1 minute before bedtime, saying their prayers (before I gave them a mist of epsom salt, dont worry my dehumidifier was left on as well as the circulating fans to avoid mold).
Peace and Thank You in advance for any guidance/confirmation.
This is my 3rd run in the current setup and the last 2 runs have been hell with Salt based nutes (AN, botanicaire) and improper watering (no runoff) causing many lockout problems due to salt buildup. I've then swiched over to the organics world because I want to keep it simple, and not kill off the microherd with a bunch of salts @ 1000ppm (1/2 recommended dose lol).
So this run I've mix up a base soil with FFOF, a dash of dolamite lime, 20% chunky perelite, and a tiny pinch of epsom salt. I didn't feed my girls anything but RO'd water all the way throug veg (0ppm) and they THRIVED, they were in 1 gallon pots for 14 days and really took off because I crammed them under a 600MH in a closet pumped full of co2 (and they were VERY ROOTED clones from an aero cloner so they took off quickly). I transplanted them all to 3 OR 5 gallon pots (depending on availablity) in the same FFOF mixup as veg.
After 1st week of Flowering was over, and the girls started to turn I brewed up a nice Jamacian BatGuano tea (2/3 cup), EWC (2/3 cup), 25ml Liquid carma, 4TBSP Humbolt Honey ES, and a pinch of dolamite all brewing in a 5gallon bucket with an airstone (the poop in a paint trainer bag). Let brew for 48hrs, checked ph (6.5), measured PPM for shits and giggles (600ppm)- mixed a glass of 20% RO water 80% tea, came to roughly 500ppm. The entire week following they recieved only RO Water every other day (im in a dry climate, they drink a lot, my pots are light every other day and top layer of soil is dry). I did NOT add any cal/mag to my RO water (possible mistake). After 7days of plain water I fed the girls a bit of Hydrozyme between 2.5 and week 3. I then made a round 2 Tea with Jamaican Guano (1/2 cup), EWC (1/2cup), 20ml Karma, 3TBSP Roots Organic HPK (bloom booster 0-4-5) to get a source of organic potassium, and 3tbsp hombolt honey ES, pinch of D.Lime. Checked Ph, 6.5, ppm 825. Diluted to 625 and fed through with good runoff. They've since recieved another week of plain RO water, with good runoff.
I'm starting to see the interveinal yellowing that makes me believe these bitches have run out of lime in the soil and are lacking because I'm flushing them too hard with 0ppm RO water (being cautious about not overdoing the nutrients this run to keep my plants healthy, focusing on feeding the microherd/soil rather than the plant herself).
Ok so here are a bunch of shots I took. And last night after freaking I stay up till 8am before lights out, to give them a dousing of epsomsalt 2/3rd's Teaspoon in 1qt sprayer in 0ppm RO water - came out to 250ppm @ 6.7ph.
I picked up some General ORganics CaMg+ today, but didnt want to hit the soil with it because I just watered yesterday with good runoff and the pots are still heavy and top is pretty moist, but I figured I'd throw these pics up, get some ideas, and hopefully resolve the problem and update with some good results..
Sorry if this is a lot of info, It has to be a bit better than little or no info.
Oh BTW, I've got 4-600's 1-1000 HPS, and 1 Spectra300 LED on a rail for supplemental.
Temps are 80, RH 40, Co2 average 1000ppm (600-1500 range) I've got an AC, good circulation, no bugs, daily attention.
2 strains (La Confidential, Blue Banana), problems starting to show onset on both breeds, but half of the bunch are showing no signs as of yet.
Help me treat my girls right!
Thanks RIU!!
~SSA
the top of a different one, can kinda see it starting possible on a couple big fans? or am I fuckin paranoid.
here's one I pulled out from under the lights, u can see the one I circled, has this similar stripping pretty prominent.
Here's a shot of one that is so far pretty flawless, showing no signs of abuse (no burnt tips that I can see, nor yellowing of anykind).
LACon
Here's a shot of the whole Gang.
759am 1 minute before bedtime, saying their prayers (before I gave them a mist of epsom salt, dont worry my dehumidifier was left on as well as the circulating fans to avoid mold).
Peace and Thank You in advance for any guidance/confirmation.
