another referendum on obamacare: obamacare wins YET AGAIN
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Doer
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BTW, WW.
We have to give Buck a chance. He is Cosmo now. He is a long way from the Pacific Appalachian, dirt streets he is used to. Only downtown Portland is paved, ya know.
His neck must still be sore from gawking at all those 10-12 story buildings they have over there.
Winter Woman
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“Despite being outspent by an unprecedented $15 million, this race came down to the wire because of Obamacare,” Cuccinelli said in his concession speech Tuesday night.
I hear that it was a 3% difference between the two candidates that is pretty close. I think all politicians should be shaking in their boots. On another front in my home state we had 3 cities make possessing 1 oz or less a non-criminal offense for anyone 21 or older.
And 25% tax on MMJ in Colorado. Wow, that makes it expensive. Did any counties in CO succeed from the state?
I hear that it was a 3% difference between the two candidates that is pretty close. I think all politicians should be shaking in their boots. On another front in my home state we had 3 cities make possessing 1 oz or less a non-criminal offense for anyone 21 or older.
And 25% tax on MMJ in Colorado. Wow, that makes it expensive. Did any counties in CO succeed from the state?
Winter Woman
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Then you found out I don't march in lock step with your ideology. You treat anyone that doesn't conform to your beliefs poorly. Kinda like those old folks enjoying, I believe it was a parade, in front of your house.
Doer
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And he could have won if he was not against BJs. Who in their right mind would think that is a good idea?
That is what is so funny. The PUBS screw themselves and the DEMS are sore and dangerous winners.
Winter Woman
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I only follow the state I'm from and the state I live in. Unless it is the Presidential election. Nothing of big importance is in either of those two states this year or at least that I care about.
Do you follow them all?
Edit: I hope that FLA get the MMJ on the ballot for 2014. I heard they are along way from the necessary signatures.
Winter Woman
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Yeah, and he, also, said some stupid things about rats and Latinos from what the papers say today.
Winter Woman
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Hey Buck, If you want a truce that is fine with me. WW
seriously, what fucking parallel universe do these people live in?and you can try to live vicariously in the past, but this election was described by rubio and cuccinelli as a referendum on obamacare,
and just like in 2012, when obama won in a second electoral landslide, obamacare will win again this year.
i thought pubsters don't lie..
yes.
i won't put my personal information on that petition..the day i can't go to hydro and pick up rock wool, is the day i subbed..no fucking way.
Winter Woman
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I signed it in MI when I lived there, I'll sign it here too. They can come and visit me I can't grow where I live so for now I'm safe. I do miss it, it was somehow very relaxing being with and taking care of my beautiful buddies. Even my cat enjoyed a nibble here or there.
Are you saying yes that you follow all the races. Wow, how do you have the time?
Doer
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And a shaky peace, like a chill fog descends. Good game, ya'll!
Doer
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But, you did put your info into....something for Obama care. They know where to put the Pie.
Winter Woman
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At least buck makes sense from time to time and every once in a while I agree with him. Now Cheesie is such an idiot I put him on block and left it there. I don't need to know whatever he has to say.
canndo
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See, the problem is that in reality, 47 percent of virginians support their notion of what obamacare is. We are finding that even the most informed on this issue (namely me, I believe, the only one here who actually read the bill- not the law mind you), is still incapable of understanding not only the ramifications of this law realized, but the particulars as it applies to actual folk it affects. I don't believe that any of us are capable of comprehending the outcome of this thing. Now the difference between you and I, and the naysayers is that we believe that over the long haul, it will be seen as a small but very valuable step in dealing with our health care funding problems.
Hope so anyway. See, i can take the stand I take because at long last I am catching a break. In particular, I will save several hundred dollars a month in premiums but I will double my potential out of pocket. Frankly no one in his right mind would, at my age, purchase a policy that leaves me responsible for about 12,000 bucks before my plan kicks in to pay 80 percent of the rest. I always figured it was worth it to, if at all possible, limit my liabilty to 5k. I can handle a 5k hit, even a 5 k hit a year. But if I manage to put that premium savings into an acccount and hang on to it, then it won't be very long till I can handle a 12k hit while still making some spare change in interest.
Now if I could work a medical savings arrangement (without the forefieture every year) I would be even happier.
This is why I just can't bring myself to be very upset about some 90k earning family of two bitching about a 200 percent increase in their formerly $120 dollar plan. If they are seeing the long term, the limit to premium increases, their abilty to change plans on a whim, their assured ability to stay in the program even if they get sick, their now lack of lifetime, or yearly limit of liability, then they would be rejoycing. Instead they are looking at a stupidly narrow view of what they now are being offered.
Sorry, but I can't weep for even those who "liked their policy", nor even those who will have to find another doctor. In short, tough shit, there are other doctors, possibly one you like even more.
UncleBuck
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winter "woman" is still trying to spin this, saying it was only close because of obamacare.seriously, what fucking parallel universe do these people live in?
they simply can't face the reality. 2012 was a direct referendum on obamacare, obamacare won in a massive electoral landslide.
and now this year, cuccinellie and rubio say, and i quote:
"Tomorrow in Virginia is a referendum on Obamacare," Cuccinelli said. "Let's send a message and say 'no' tomorrow to Obamacare."
"This is the first election in America since the full impact of Obamacare has been felt," Rubio, R-Fla., said. "This is the first chance that people in America have to speak clearly at the ballot box about the impact this law is having on their lives and our economy."
and they lose this referendum on obamacare as well!
47% of all voters support obamacare.
moderates (the people who don't buy into the shrill, sky is falling, chain email nonsense brought by the likes of winter "woman") voted for the obamacare guy by a whopping 28% margin, nearly 2 to 1 for obamacare!*
58% of moderates supported the obamacare guy, only 30% of moderates did not.
that is a massive hurdle to overcome, and their chicken little bullshit spam ain't gonna help them any.
too funny.
ChesusRice
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winter "woman" is still trying to spin this, saying it was only close because of obamacare.
they simply can't face the reality. 2012 was a direct referendum on obamacare, obamacare won in a massive electoral landslide.
and now this year, cuccinellie and rubio say, and i quote:
"Tomorrow in Virginia is a referendum on Obamacare," Cuccinelli said. "Let's send a message and say 'no' tomorrow to Obamacare."
"This is the first election in America since the full impact of Obamacare has been felt," Rubio, R-Fla., said. "This is the first chance that people in America have to speak clearly at the ballot box about the impact this law is having on their lives and our economy."
and they lose this referendum on obamacare as well!
47% of all voters support obamacare.
moderates (the people who don't buy into the shrill, sky is falling, chain email nonsense brought by the likes of winter "woman") voted for the obamacare guy by a whopping 28% margin, nearly 2 to 1 for obamacare!*
58% of moderates supported the obamacare guy, only 30% of moderates did not.
that is a massive hurdle to overcome, and their chicken little bullshit spam ain't gonna help them any.
too funny.
UncleBuck
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let me know if the site admin comes by to give you any more spankings.Citation needed.