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irieie said:
i think mr gaines sons may have helped set up their grows. they run the families dispensaries in colo. as far as using the clubs to gauge the market there are many flaws in this i have thought about in the past. primarily the level of competition is not what it will be when dispensaries open, they will be farther apart but there will be more of them overall, these two factors could go either way. i understand the logic used by those trying to estimate what demand will be, but in my conclusions the market is so grey right now that i dont think anyone can know for sure. quality as well will play a very large role in demand and that is a crap shoot for projections given that most of the medicine is not produced in state. to me there are too many variables and not enough similarities to be able to extrapolate future projections in an industry that is still in the infant stages of getting off the ground. also from the demand aspect, i am starting to wonder about the money available to the industry. ther is money there but i am not sure if anyone knows how much. right now we should be focusing on growing the card carrying population of this state. i have noticed that since the state has started its negative propaganda campaign, patients numbers have remained stagnant compared to the increases we saw before the lottery.
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Some owners are confident the patient numbers will skyrocket when dispensaries open...
 
there is so much that could happen between now and then. for comaprison, colo has about 80k patients right now. patient numbers will not skyrocket unless the rhetoric changes. seems like azdhs is starting to enforce quality control and the state will begin to scrutinize doctors systematically. the state does not want the patient registry growing larger.
 
irieie said:
there is so much that could happen between now and then. for comaprison, colo has about 80k patients right now. patient numbers will not skyrocket unless the rhetoric changes. seems like azdhs is starting to enforce quality control and the state will begin to scrutinize doctors systematically. the state does not want the patient registry growing larger.
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I agree a lot can happen but I think that following the trends of other states that registration will increase following the dispensaries opening... lots of people have been wondering what the point of getting a card is without dispensaries open
 
i hope you guys aree right. this state likes to do its own thing. i hope we follow the path laid out by other states.
 
That is how it went in MT, a huge influx of patients.
But, with all the legal obstacles surrounding Arizona MMJ, who really knows...
(All the MT legal garbage that arose had serious adverse effects on the patient populace after the influx)
 
Chronicseeker said:
That is how it went in MT, a huge influx of patients.
But, with all the legal obstacles surrounding Arizona MMJ, who really knows...
(All the MT legal garbage that arose had serious adverse effects on the patient populace after the influx)
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I sure as hell hope we don't follow the path of MT. That states mmj program is in shambles and patients and caregivers are harassed by the state and feds without question.
 
6 figures is a little overly ambitious (OK greedy) IMO. That's PhD salary range. If you had an agricultural degree and wanted that kinda money, you'd be a consultant and advising all of a dispensary's growers rather than just being a grower yourself, and as long as you're responsible for less than 100 plants and a registered dispensary agent, I don't think you're staring down much of a barrel. Plus, you have to consider that you're getting the PRIVILEGE of being able to continue to grow when so many others will have to stop. That's worth something, because you know the growers get first dibs at prime tops!

That's what bothered me about the show American Weed. You see the jars on their shelves full of popcorn nugs and larf, but what they take to show their grandma is a big 14" donkey dick. Ha! You know their patients never get to see stuff like that. I read somone had even seen TRIM at a farmers market! Poor patients...and you know what they say about having a job that you love not even seeming like work... that's worth something. Even worth taking a pay CUT. I think 35k-40k for someone growing less than 100 plants is reasonable if they are only responsible for tending plants and the dispensaries take care of the lease, rent, utilities, etc. If the first year goes well maybe your salary and budget will be sufficiently increased in the years to come, but wanting to start at 6 figures to grow plants... you need your own bobblehead.
 
Growing under 100 plants is completely unrealistic. You won't supply your dispensary for 2 months doing that. You will be out of business in short time.
 
Outfits growing 99 wont be in business long enough to pay out on a 35k-40k salary...

I dont think it is unfair to say that a dispensary pulling in million + dollars profits a year should acknowledge how that money was made with a nice paycheck (does not have to be six figures but higher than a teachers salary.)
W/O good growers it will not matter how many plants are growing in a facility if its all bunk/worthless come harvest. (I guess you could sell hash only lol... joking)
Many of the good growers know what their time, experience and skills are truly worth, because they have been doing this for more than the last 2 yrs and the numbers they suggest are not hypothetical.
Many of the MMJ business owners think what has been written on paper is reality and less cost obviously equals more profit; that is all that matters.
It will be interesting to see how things play out after a year of dispensaries being open because typically the individuals working for very little have very little understanding.
We all know the industry is saturated w/ false promises etc...
 
KT420 said:
6 figures is a little overly ambitious (OK greedy) IMO. That's PhD salary range. If you had an agricultural degree and wanted that kinda money, you'd be a consultant and advising all of a dispensary's growers rather than just being a grower yourself, and as long as you're responsible for less than 100 plants and a registered dispensary agent, I don't think you're staring down much of a barrel. Plus, you have to consider that you're getting the PRIVILEGE of being able to continue to grow when so many others will have to stop. That's worth something, because you know the growers get first dibs at prime tops!

That's what bothered me about the show American Weed. You see the jars on their shelves full of popcorn nugs and larf, but what they take to show their grandma is a big 14" donkey dick. Ha! You know their patients never get to see stuff like that. I read somone had even seen TRIM at a farmers market! Poor patients...and you know what they say about having a job that you love not even seeming like work... that's worth something. Even worth taking a pay CUT. I think 35k-40k for someone growing less than 100 plants is reasonable if they are only responsible for tending plants and the dispensaries take care of the lease, rent, utilities, etc. If the first year goes well maybe your salary and budget will be sufficiently increased in the years to come, but wanting to start at 6 figures to grow plants... you need your own bobblehead.
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you can make more than that with 12 plants and 1 small room
 
As the risk of growing diminishes, so will the salaries. When Cannabis is grown as commonly as tomatoes, the prices will go down. Capitalism works. We just need to remind our government of that.
 
Lucius Vorenus said:
Growing under 100 plants is completely unrealistic. You won't supply your dispensary for 2 months doing that. You will be out of business in short time.
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Are dispensaries going to rely solely on 1 grow/grower to supply them? I think it'd be better to have several smaller grows, if only for preventing spread of mites and PM and things like that, herms, catastrophies, not to mention the alphabet gang. It might even be a good idea to have a grow strictly for keeping mothers and clones to supply the other grows. IDK what the cost is for a dispenary to register a grow location with the state, though, or what it takes to outfit them to meet the states standads. Maybe it's cost prohibitive. I think a 99 plant grow could do 15-20lbs a month in a 33 plant, 30 day rotation. 2 8k rooms on a flip-flop and a 2k veg room.
str8sativa said:
you can make more than that with 12 plants and 1 small room
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Only as a blackhat, selling. Growing for a dispensary you don't have to do any of the selling, which takes away a huge amount of risk and potential barrel-staring. Plus you can report your income, put it in the bank etc.. It's just not the same.
 
There is nothing stopping the alphabet gang from seizing everything, including AZ legal money in the bank. We are headed for more legal showdowns. Fortunately, the courts have generally had our back. Except for maybe the John Roberts court.
 
KT420 said:
Are dispensaries going to rely solely on 1 grow/grower to supply them? I think it'd be better to have several smaller grows, if only for preventing spread of mites and PM and things like that, herms, catastrophies, not to mention the alphabet gang. It might even be a good idea to have a grow strictly for keeping mothers and clones to supply the other grows. IDK what the cost is for a dispenary to register a grow location with the state, though, or what it takes to outfit them to meet the states standads. Maybe it's cost prohibitive. I think a 99 plant grow could do 15-20lbs a month in a 33 plant, 30 day rotation. 2 8k rooms on a flip-flop and a 2k veg room.

Only as a blackhat, selling. Growing for a dispensary you don't have to do any of the selling, which takes away a huge amount of risk and potential barrel-staring. Plus you can report your income, put it in the bank etc.. It's just not the same.
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dispensaries aren't going to be allowed to have multiple grow facilities, per the wording of the law, it's not the logistics or the money ... but I agree that would be a much better way to do things.
 
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