Just trying to keep you rapists from getting butthurt by Uncle Ben, Chuck, and myself. Harming your plants by defoliation is not an advanced technique, it's an excuse for people without sound botanical backgrounds to play with their plants. Keep posting in here and you get what you get, I was offering a solution.
Excellent idea Mein Fuhrer, can I suggest that before we ship them off to that 'special' place we make them put big yellow D's in their signatures so we can identify them easier? Like this D.
Speaking of plant rapists, one guy shows quite a few bald 2' tall trunks with a shot under the screen looking across and I said, "ugggg, who would want that maintenance!" (He actually crawls under this large screen with pruners in hand, then has to clean up). Then I says with tongue in cheek "Did you rape those ladies on your back, stomach or knees?" Hah!
You don't know when to shut up do you? I would imagine it's a very difficult job being a mod and now you're having a go at them because you started a thread that was always destined for closure.
Not sure if we need another section to discuss defoliation be it ya or nay lol. What I'm thinking is needed is valium lol. I just don't get the smack down take no prisoners attitude on the subject. I've been growing pot for appr. 38 years (14 years old when i plowed up my first 1/4 acre with dads rototiller) and still feel I'm a newb lol. Actually doing indoor and hydro is a new and very rewarding experience for me. I'm getting to old to trudge through the swamp to take care of the girls
. But with everyone highjacking everyones threads No matter where posted, RIU will always be one of the most controversial sites on the web. And yes not for the faint of heart!!! My question to you would be why the need to inflict butt hurt in the first place lol. Knowing the outcome of every one of these threads I typically only follow them for the entertainment. Everyone loves to see the car crash at the second turn but feel sorry for the driver lol. As far as newbs sticking to the newb section, again not for the faint of heart lol. Yes there are lots of questions there that with a little searching the answer could be found, but don't crucify the poor sap, just don't get involved lol. Thats really my point, if people dont agree with the content just don't get involved. This isn't really even another def thread and already its merrits are being discussed lol. The discussion all ways turns into a "my buds bigger than your bud" and your doing it all wrong thing. With all the degrees everyone seems to have here, it sure seems to degrade into a primary school debate lol. Why do people insist on slamming others grow techniques to the point of anal pain infliction?
It is the responsibility of all experienced growers with actual knowledge to stop newbies from thinking this is an acceptable practice. And by actual knowledge I for one have also grown for most of my life and I am 57, I also worked for a paneled research biologist who is widely published and respected in her community. There is nothing scientific about these claims of trials or results, just a feedback loop self reinforcing this (at best questionable) practice.Not sure if we need another section to discuss defoliation be it ya or nay lol. What I'm thinking is needed is valium lol. I just don't get the smack down take no prisoners attitude on the subject. I've been growing pot for appr. 38 years (14 years old when i plowed up my first 1/4 acre with dads rototiller) and still feel I'm a newb lol. Actually doing indoor and hydro is a new and very rewarding experience for me. I'm getting to old to trudge through the swamp to take care of the girls
That is why whenever a new crop of noobs shows up and starts the same old defol thread, I ask them to use the Search feature. What one needs to do is to collect links to all of the defoliation threads, yes that would include the lame practice of lollipopping, and when it raises its ugly head link them to the others. But then you have the lazy numbnuts who want free this and that handed to them - https://www.rollitup.org/t/effect-of-defoliation-on-yield-skywalker-og-indoor-scrog.827202/page-27
Again not saying its good or bad!!! I actually never attempted anything with my outdoor grows other than watering them and adding nutes, typically timed release ones so I didnt have to do more work lol. My outdoor grows were to large to do much except get in and out without being caught so pruning, topping, etc. was not a priority lol. Sure would be nice to be able to water plants from my porch lol. But I kinda get it now thanks. You feel its your duty as an educated man with many years experience to stop newbs from heading down the wrong path.... Got it. But as in your own words you will inflict butt pain to get your point across. And your right it is an endless loop from both sides. Would it not be also acceptable to just say you disagree but feel free to try it even though there is scientific proof it works. It may make for less of a train wreck. Not criticizing your approach just throwing it out there for discussion. lol Again like I said it would be nice to follow a thread and not have it turn into a smack-down between the people that do pull leaves and those that don't. The last thread I followed turned into an epic battle due to both sides and It just baffled my mind that it got that way. Gotta say it was entertaining though!
Pot calling kettle black comes to mind. Who dropped a quarter in your slot?
So I present a well written thread reflecting the fallacy of buds needing light which included a scientific explanation and pictorial documentation, and I'm the one that trashes it out?
Uhhhhhhhh, you're just another RIU loser that lollipops, flushes, and SCROGS....is in bed with "that" group. Right or wrong?
Yes, Uncle Ben and others could absolutely do that .... but they don't, because it's not about helping others for them. It's about sticking their chest out and inflating their ego.
