Any 1 Know What Strains are Good & not Good to Top???

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Steven111

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Does Any 1 know what strains are good & not good to top?

I have read several places that certain strains respond better to topping than others.

I also read that some strains when topped will only produce two or more smaller tops, which would have been equal to the one big top if left alone... Some strains I read when topped will produce more overall total weight.

ie... 1 top = 7 g's & 2 tops = 7 g's (3.5 g's each top). OR 1 top = 7 g's & 2 tops = 14 g's (7 each top)

IF ANY 1 KNOWS FROM EXPERIENCE OR READING PLEASE LIST THE STRAIN & IF GOOD OR BAD TO TOP IT, SO WE ALL MAY COMPARE.

THANKS.....:? :hump:
 
satch

satch

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Steven111 said:
Does Any 1 know what strains are good & not good to top?

I have read several places that certain strains respond better to topping than others.

I also read that some strains when topped will only produce two or more smaller tops, which would have been equal to the one big top if left alone... Some strains I read when topped will produce more overall total weight.

ie... 1 top = 7 g's & 2 tops = 7 g's (3.5 g's each top). OR 1 top = 7 g's & 2 tops = 14 g's (7 each top)

IF ANY 1 KNOWS FROM EXPERIENCE OR READING PLEASE LIST THE STRAIN & IF GOOD OR BAD TO TOP IT, SO WE ALL MAY COMPARE.

THANKS.....:? :hump:
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It's probably just as dependent on he grow setup IMO but I have heard that Blueberry won't reach it's full potential unless it's topped multiple times.
 
DubsFan

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satch said:
It's probably just as dependent on he grow setup IMO but I have heard that Blueberry won't reach it's full potential unless it's topped multiple times.
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I don't think there is any mathematical equation to mother nature. When I go back up to NorCal and check out all my buddies grow set ups...none of them top, fim or LST. There opinion is that the strain will do the work.

They will occasionally pinch a top in order to get the side growth up a bit, but that's about it.

I just listen to them because the run a 6-10oz yield per plant on indoor. Do the math. That's a crazy average for indoor where veg time is short.
 
panta

panta

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i know from experience that a white russian is much better when left alone/not topped/ but a dutch passion euphoria respondes great to topping
 
JarJarBinks

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Most commercial growers don't top, LST, or FIM. They all cause significant stress (even LST) and result in a less balanced vascular system. There is a some debate over whether or not increases in yield are achieved.

In my experience, pruning, LST, and FIM create a larger quantity of smaller buds, but no more weight than their unpruned counterparts, regardless of strain.
The major upside to all pruning techniques is that they limit plant height, which is desirable if you have limited lighting.

If you have extremely powerful lighting, (i.e. 1000w/meter) then pruning has no benefit. In fact, it can even delay the production of flowering hormones.


**Note: Blueberry is one of a few strains that appears to benefit from a more branced/decentralized vascular system.
 
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switchone

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JarJarBinks said:
Most commercial growers don't top, LST, or FIM. They all cause significant stress (even LST) and result in a less balanced vascular system. There is a some debate over whether or not increases in yield are achieved.

In my experience, pruning, LST, and FIM create a larger quantity of smaller buds, but no more weight than their unpruned counterparts, regardless of strain.
The major upside to all pruning techniques is that they limit plant height, which is desirable if you have limited lighting.

If you have extremely powerful lighting, (i.e. 1000w/meter) then pruning has no benefit. In fact, it can even delay the production of flowering hormones.


**Note: Blueberry is one of a few strains that appears to benefit from a more branced/decentralized vascular system.
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Ummmm, FIMing and Topping are said to increase Bud production. Please see Mblaze and Uncle Ben's thread. LST/HST may cause some stress but not FIM/Topping. If you top for more than 2-4 Cola's It may not produce any significant amount more than 2-4Colas. Uncle ben was able to produce 10oz from an indoor palnt as well as Mblaze. Check out there sticky threads.
 
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somebody041

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switchone said:
Ummmm, FIMing and Topping are said to increase Bud production. Please see Mblaze and Uncle Ben's thread. LST/HST may cause some stress but not FIM/Topping. If you top for more than 2-4 Cola's It may not produce any significant amount more than 2-4Colas. Uncle ben was able to produce 10oz from an indoor palnt as well as Mblaze. Check out there sticky threads.
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high stress training is topping/fimming. lst does not cause alot of stress. that's why it's called low stress training :hump:
 
JarJarBinks

JarJarBinks

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switchone said:
Ummmm, FIMing and Topping are said to increase Bud production. Please see Mblaze and Uncle Ben's thread. LST/HST may cause some stress but not FIM/Topping. If you top for more than 2-4 Cola's It may not produce any significant amount more than 2-4Colas. Uncle ben was able to produce 10oz from an indoor palnt as well as Mblaze. Check out there sticky threads.
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Trust me -- I've read them. I have done comparative grows on the mass scale (15+ plants per class.) I'm also a botanist. FIM and Topping is very stressful -- there's no argument about that. However, some tracheophytes (higher plants, including cannabis) benefit from stress. The jury is just still out on MJ.
 
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switchone

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JarJarBinks said:
Trust me -- I've read them. I have done comparative grows on the mass scale (15+ plants per class.) I'm also a botanist. FIM and Topping is very stressful -- there's no argument about that. However, some tracheophytes (higher plants, including cannabis) benefit from stress. The jury is just still out on MJ.
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oh ok. Wow, i really beleived that they did not stress out the plants. hmmm. what about yield? does it increase yield? I will using Blueberry/skunk seeds...any input would be great
 
grow space

grow space

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switchone said:
oh ok. Wow, i really beleived that they did not stress out the plants. hmmm. what about yield? does it increase yield? I will using Blueberry/skunk seeds...any input would be great
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man, if you have bluberry-then you know the deal already-topping 4 that is a MUST DO.4 skunk, experiment-topp some and leave the others alone.oh, and i would suggest that you should LST all the plants, cas its great in my book:):):).
 
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HarvestFest2010

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Shorter and stronger with more bud points. It seems like that would be better, But i have repeatly read that if you top you have to do it early so it heals good b4 flowering. So i am guessing that really thats the case. It reall all depends on the success of the operation. Clean instrament is important even in plants.
 
JACKMAYOFFER

JACKMAYOFFER

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JarJarBinks said:
Most commercial growers don't top, LST, or FIM. They all cause significant stress (even LST) and result in a less balanced vascular system. There is a some debate over whether or not increases in yield are achieved.

In my experience, pruning, LST, and FIM create a larger quantity of smaller buds, but no more weight than their unpruned counterparts, regardless of strain.
The major upside to all pruning techniques is that they limit plant height, which is desirable if you have limited lighting.

If you have extremely powerful lighting, (i.e. 1000w/meter) then pruning has no benefit. In fact, it can even delay the production of flowering hormones.


**Note: Blueberry is one of a few strains that appears to benefit from a more branced/decentralized vascular system.
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ROLL MY EYES READ AGAIN ROLL MY EYES...:shock: look up MBLAZE and it will open your eyes... FIM and LST and Lolipop....equal 3 plus lbs indoors..
 
bish

bish

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Ak 47 responds well to topping to two or 4 tops. In my last harvest 2 plants = 14ozs.
I am not up to 1gm per watt but working on it. This was under a 600 watt.
 
PrezDickie

PrezDickie

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Why is this thread so hard to find??? this is a great idea for a forum although most people posting seem to have missed the point of the thread. i thought there would be a nice long list of which strains do well topped and which don't but only like 4 strains are mentioned here and blueberry seems to be the only point of agreement. someone should sticky this and it could be a great tool for people once growers start listing actual experience with plants and not debating the idea of topping or FIMing
 
Bargar

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Although I do not have experience from a large variety of strains, I can agree with the earlier statement that White Russian does not like the topping/fim, PERIOD. Also, Jillybean and blueberry did well with topping. The verdict is still out on chocolope, will post what I observe in my own garden, later this year.
 
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Wrecks

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Chocolope seems to respond well to topping. This plant was topped twice. The first being after the second node, the second (both mains) after the first node.

 
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bigchingonaboss

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I've topped numerous times and lollipoped: LA Con, Bubba, LA ConXBubba, Fire Og, Og Kush, Dj short Blueberry, God's Gift, BlueberryXGod's Gift, Grape Kush, Plushberry, and a couple of more strains that I can't think of off hand. With all I had an increase in yield and of course colas. the only one I had trouble with was both Fire Og and the Og Kush stressed them out a little too much.
 
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Shanty Mountain

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Great question: you'd think that this would be widespread knowledge, but in my experience its hard to find. The rule of thumb that I've followed with limited experience is that the more Sativa dominate a variety is, the better it will take to topping. Blue Dream, Blueberry, and Skunk have all responded well to topping in my experience, especially if done at least a week before flowering. I've had less encouraging results with Kush varities.
 
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