Any idea what’s going on here ??????

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Osulax2131

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Lights - 6- autocobs from cobshop.net
Medium - Cana coco
Watering- once a day
Nutrients - megacrop , mammoth p , CX horticulture regenaroot , cal-mag from green leaf nutrients

When I watered 12 hours ago I used full strength on the cal mag which I wasn’t doing before , plants perked up for sure
500ppm 6.1ph

At about 6 weeks into veg

I just got a Ppm meter a week ago I was def overfeeding them for a a solid week before that. I also think I wasn’t using enough cal mag so I’m full strength on the cal mag now but just this one plant is looking off ...its more yellowish looking than all of the others and now the tops are kinda shriveled looking all looking like this. Any help would be much appreciated !!! Also seeing a few small burn spots
 
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myke

myke

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ya the new growth doesn't look happy,your watering to runoff?Perhaps a good flush with 1/2 strength food and full calmag?
They'll be others with more experience with this.
 
Coloradoclear

Coloradoclear

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If you were over feeding up to a week ago, I am guessing they are still going to have a bit of a "hangover" from that.
 
Stiickygreen

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I'm not a coco guy historically....but on my last go I gave some Mother Earth a try. I'm in a new house with a new well. Long story short...my plants looked exactly like yours. I dosed them with a micro package that always perks things up...still nothing. It was then that my head went to "pH".....and sure enough...a test of my well water is at about 8....after weeks of hitting them and them looking OK...they hit the wall. What's your water pH...pH of the runoff? I'm guessing lockout...not a need for more Cal Mag. Just a thought.
 
hotrodharley

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Osulax2131 said:
View attachment 4280966 View attachment 4280964 View attachment 4280965 View attachment 4280963 View attachment 4280962 Indoor grow 4x8 tent 8 plants
Lights - 6- autocobs from cobshop.net
Medium - Cana coco
Watering- once a day
Nutrients - megacrop , mammoth p , CX horticulture regenaroot , cal-mag from green leaf nutrients

When I watered 12 hours ago I used full strength on the cal mag which I wasn’t doing before , plants perked up for sure
500ppm 6.1ph

At about 6 weeks into veg

I just got a Ppm meter a week ago I was def overfeeding them for a a solid week before that. I also think I wasn’t using enough cal mag so I’m full strength on the cal mag now but just this one plant is looking off ...its more yellowish looking than all of the others and now the tops are kinda shriveled looking all looking like this. Any help would be much appreciated !!! Also seeing a few small burn spots
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How high are the lights?
 
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Osulax2131

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myke said:
ya the new growth doesn't look happy,your watering to runoff?Perhaps a good flush with 1/2 strength food and full calmag?
They'll be others with more experience with this.
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I haven’t been watering with a lot of water but lately their hasn’t been as much runoff ..are my square containers maybe clogged up or something. ?
 
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Osulax2131

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Stiickygreen said:
I'm not a coco guy historically....but on my last go I gave some Mother Earth a try. I'm in a new house with a new well. Long story short...my plants looked exactly like yours. I dosed them with a micro package that always perks things up...still nothing. It was then that my head went to "pH".....and sure enough...a test of my well water is at about 8....after weeks of hitting them and them looking OK...they hit the wall. What's your water pH...pH of the runoff? I'm guessing lockout...not a need for more Cal Mag. Just a thought.
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My ph going in is 6.1 ....I just watered with a bunch of plain distilled water but wasn’t able to check the run off .. I don’t really have a drain tube the water just collects in the trays and I vacuum it up . BTW I have the plants on plant risers so they aren’t sitting in the runnoff ..come to think of it though the are just barley off the ground ..is the plant maybe sitting on top of some run off water ..I dunno I’m just throwing out ideas
 
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Osulax2131

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Stiickygreen said:
I'm not a coco guy historically....but on my last go I gave some Mother Earth a try. I'm in a new house with a new well. Long story short...my plants looked exactly like yours. I dosed them with a micro package that always perks things up...still nothing. It was then that my head went to "pH".....and sure enough...a test of my well water is at about 8....after weeks of hitting them and them looking OK...they hit the wall. What's your water pH...pH of the runoff? I'm guessing lockout...not a need for more Cal Mag. Just a thought.
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Osulax2131

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I’m kinda new to this but why is watering to runoff so important I guess I haven’t really been doing that.. if I’m giving them just enough water every day I figured that would be ok ..my drainage system hasn’t really been set up yet this is why I’m watering in smaller quantities
 
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I think I may just have a nutrient buildup in the medium ..since i started from clone transplant 6 weeks ago I’ve only flushed once and that was last week ..even that was only like 2 watering over 2 days and it wasn’t a heavy flush
 
delstele

delstele

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Coco can be very forgiving if one over dose things gets nute buildup. I have put my plants is the shower let it run for 5 min or so give them a good flush works good.
 
70's natureboy

70's natureboy

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Osulax2131 said:
I think I may just have a nutrient buildup in the medium ..since i started from clone transplant 6 weeks ago I’ve only flushed once and that was last week ..even that was only like 2 watering over 2 days and it wasn’t a heavy flush
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That's what I would bet my money on. Too much nutes.
 
myke

myke

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Read up on the coco dude!Plenty in the hydro area.

You need to rig up your trays so you can collect a lot of run off,they need a flush with 1/4 nutes.say around a gallon in each pot of runnoff,maybe more.
 
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Osulax2131 said:
My ph going in is 6.1 ....I just watered with a bunch of plain distilled water but wasn’t able to check the run off .. I don’t really have a drain tube the water just collects in the trays and I vacuum it up . BTW I have the plants on plant risers so they aren’t sitting in the runnoff ..come to think of it though the are just barley off the ground ..is the plant maybe sitting on top of some run off water ..I dunno I’m just throwing out ideas
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Drop your pH to 5.8 and don't let it swing above 6.0 in coco.

Give them a good flush and this will sound counterproductive but use about 250 to 300 ppm nutrients. I can't comment on your nutrients as I use GH Flora Series trio.
 
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CannaCountry

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Just a few pointers:

Your pH should be closer to 5.8 on average. If it swings a smidge up or down, no biggie, but start all your feed at pH 5.8.

If you're watering with plain water...water with no feed in it...stop! Coco grown plants don't like this. Always make sure your plants are getting some level of feed in their water...from day 1.

If you're able to check your ppm and pH going in, you should be able to check it coming out...and while I'm not a proponent of worrying about runoff, in your case, with this infected plant, I would. The data you collect will tell you a lot about what you have going on. From what it appears it's a pH issue, as you seem to have multiple deficiencies on this particular plant. The twisted up tops is a huge give away.

In terms of runoff: you don't need to see a gallon of feed running out of the bottom of your pot after each feed to know you did right. The idea of run off is two fold...when you see it you know you got the medium fully saturated with newly oxygenated and nutrient rich food, but it also helps to freshen up the medium, by pushing any unused or old salts out. However, it is not necessary to see copious amounts of runoff, and in fact it's quite possible to feed at an almost perfect rate so you never see run off and the plants will be just fine.

Double check your pH parameters...it will be a good starting point. Good luck.
 
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Osulax2131

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Just checked my run off ...5.7..even if I’m flushing still add some nutrients ?? Also I’ve just been following a buch of grows on IG , several people having great success at 6.1 and 6.2 ph


CannaCountry said:
Just a few pointers:

Your pH should be closer to 5.8 on average. If it swings a smidge up or down, no biggie, but start all your feed at pH 5.8.

If you're watering with plain water...water with no feed in it...stop! Coco grown plants don't like this. Always make sure your plants are getting some level of feed in their water...from day 1.

If you're able to check your ppm and pH going in, you should be able to check it coming out...and while I'm not a proponent of worrying about runoff, in your case, with this infected plant, I would. The data you collect will tell you a lot about what you have going on. From what it appears it's a pH issue, as you seem to have multiple deficiencies on this particular plant. The twisted up tops is a huge give away.

In terms of runoff: you don't need to see a gallon of feed running out of the bottom of your pot after each feed to know you did right. The idea of run off is two fold...when you see it you know you got the medium fully saturated with newly oxygenated and nutrient rich food, but it also helps to freshen up the medium, by pushing any unused or old salts out. However, it is not necessary to see copious amounts of runoff, and in fact it's quite possible to feed at an almost perfect rate so you never see run off and the plants will be just fine.

Double check your pH parameters...it will be a good starting point. Good luck.
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