Any other gym rats out there?
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wascaptain
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yo indagrow
chasing skirts will keep you lean for sure!
chasing skirts will keep you lean for sure!
LittleMan80
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I workout 5 days a week. I still live in a state where weed is illegal, so I guerilla grow. All the prep, multiple trails, back tracking etc you have to be in shape otherwise your end result will suck. Believe me, I know.
Colo MMJ
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Be careful not to push too hard. Injuries can take forever to heal and sometimes they never heal.
mezzomario
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I am not big fan of gym and fitness. But I need to lose some weight. So, I started to go to gym twice per week. I have goal to lose 10Lbs. If fitness does not help me I will try to use Coolsculpting NYC procedure. Also I started to use special diet, because I want to be in good shape too.
Colo MMJ
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Intermittent fasting aka cut out breakfast. Also no STarbucks sugar lattes or other morning crap with sugar. OJ etc. Water or black coffee. Intermittent fasting means you are not eating from say 7pm to the next day at 12 noon or 1 pm. Your body is burning calories for about 17 hours. You only eat during the 12 noon to 7 pm window.
Lordhooha
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You need to focus on eating healthier and hit the gym hard. Fasting does help as well I generally fast from my last meal at 8 until 2 the next day.
Major Blazer
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Your body is also catabolic during a fast.
Lordhooha
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Fasting for Muscle?
There’s always two sides to every argument and then there’s a truth right in the middle. Opponents of fasting often claim that intermittent fasting leads to catabolism which then automatically leads to muscle loss. But hold on a minute.
First off, the definition of catabolism is not necessarily muscle loss, even though that’s the only context you see it in. Catabolism refers to certain molecules being broken down to provide energy. Protein isn’t the only thing that’s available to be used here but so are lipids (fats) and polysaccharides. This is a completely normal process and it’s a necessity for our bodies.
In terms of muscle loss, the study, “Intermittent versus daily calorie restriction: which diet regimen is more effective for weight loss,” found that an intermittent fasting diet lead tomore lean mass being retained vs. a diet of daily calorie restriction. [1] Numerous studies on Ramadan also show that fat free mass is retained quite well in regards to fasting [2].
Lordhooha
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http://www.fredduncan.com/2017/11/29/intermittent-fasting-muscle-loss/
Full article if you want to read it all. There’s also a lot of guys out there that fast in the same fashion I do. Terry crews is one of many.
Full article if you want to read it all. There’s also a lot of guys out there that fast in the same fashion I do. Terry crews is one of many.
Major Blazer
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You should look up the actual research if you’re interested. The lean mass attributed to the researched references in that article refer to water and connecting tissue, not muscle. The myth stems from the confusion about gh and it’s function in supporting muscle growth, ie gh is not an anabolic compound, which is often misleadingly represented by advocates of IF, like that article.
“..muscle development pre- and postnatally. In GHD adults, there is evidence that serum GH affects muscle mass maintenance, but in healthy adults neither GH nor IGF-1 has or enhances the hypertrophic effects of exercise.”
Velloso, 2008: Regulation of muscle mass by growth hormone and IGF-1
“..there is no proof that net protein retention is promoted in adults, except possibly of connective tissue.” (Re: gh increases)
Rennie, 2003: Claims for the anabolic effects of growth hormone: a case study of the Emporer’s new clothes?
Add to it that most proponents of IF neglect to educate their audiences of the fact that GH increases are acute and transient, which have no systemic affects on healthy adults. I can reference research papers here too but you get the point.
At the end of the day, there is no debating that if you consume more calories than you burn, you will gain weight. If you burn more calories than you consume, you will loose weight. So exercise more or eat less. Also I’m not trying to spark a debate here, but health and nutrition information without context or scope is reckless.
“..muscle development pre- and postnatally. In GHD adults, there is evidence that serum GH affects muscle mass maintenance, but in healthy adults neither GH nor IGF-1 has or enhances the hypertrophic effects of exercise.”
Velloso, 2008: Regulation of muscle mass by growth hormone and IGF-1
“..there is no proof that net protein retention is promoted in adults, except possibly of connective tissue.” (Re: gh increases)
Rennie, 2003: Claims for the anabolic effects of growth hormone: a case study of the Emporer’s new clothes?
Add to it that most proponents of IF neglect to educate their audiences of the fact that GH increases are acute and transient, which have no systemic affects on healthy adults. I can reference research papers here too but you get the point.
At the end of the day, there is no debating that if you consume more calories than you burn, you will gain weight. If you burn more calories than you consume, you will loose weight. So exercise more or eat less. Also I’m not trying to spark a debate here, but health and nutrition information without context or scope is reckless.
Colo MMJ
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The dude had said he needed to lose weight.
Farmer Pat
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Love this thread. I find it so awkward hitting the gym and feeling like no one is getting stoned like I am haha. But thats all in the mind I suppose.
As for loosing weight, the only and number 1 thing is CALORIC DEFICIT. Scientifically you cant loose weight if youre consuming more calories than your body is burning. Take a quick online test and see roughly how many calories an average person burns with your height, weight, age, sex, etc.. and aim to consume 200-500 less calories than what your average is. A caloric deficit is the only way to achieve actual weight/fat loss, and there are many aids that can assist you in staying in a deficit.
Like the above mentioned Intermittent Fasting. Cutting out 1 whole meal a day is cutting out tons of calories your body probably didnt need to consume for energy. A lot of the energy you want to use is already stored within you inside of fat cells.
Whatever it means to you, im happy for anyone trying to better themselves and their health. Great work out of all of you!!
As for loosing weight, the only and number 1 thing is CALORIC DEFICIT. Scientifically you cant loose weight if youre consuming more calories than your body is burning. Take a quick online test and see roughly how many calories an average person burns with your height, weight, age, sex, etc.. and aim to consume 200-500 less calories than what your average is. A caloric deficit is the only way to achieve actual weight/fat loss, and there are many aids that can assist you in staying in a deficit.
Like the above mentioned Intermittent Fasting. Cutting out 1 whole meal a day is cutting out tons of calories your body probably didnt need to consume for energy. A lot of the energy you want to use is already stored within you inside of fat cells.
Whatever it means to you, im happy for anyone trying to better themselves and their health. Great work out of all of you!!
bellagreen55
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Fitness junkie here! Love to do yoga while using cannabis. Meditation too.
Major Blazer
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Exactly my point! I'd love to see him/her/anyone accomplish this goal in a healthy and sustainable manner without the potential for muscle wasting or by making radical changes to their diet. The most proven, effective, and lasting method for doing so, as indicated by the research, is through a well programmed exercise regime and by consuming a balanced diet rich in whole foods that is calorically lower than the daily rate of energy consumption. You are right to say to avoid sugary Starbucks drinks and the likes but when diets advocate the omission of healthy whole foods like OJ and bananas, I simply cannot take them seriously as they leave conventional wisdom at the door in favor of trying to body hack your way into a better physique.
Anecdotally through friends, colleagues, and clients, I have seen some level of success when using IF as a tool, however these people are all who I would consider "advanced" lifters - or at the very least seasoned, highly active people who are trying to fine tune an already healthy body. When I was at my strongest, I did not intentionally follow IF, however my workouts always took place in the morning and since I was already waking up at 4:30 to hit the gym from 5-7, I had no time to eat prior to training. I'd be in bed the night before by 8pm and my last meal was hours before that with breakfast taking place at my desk by approx 8:30am-9am, leaving me in a fasted window of approx 14/15 hours. At this time I was pretty shredded and strong af (for me) but not for a second do I believe that my food consumption timing had anything to do with it and I would not impose this lifestyle on anyone looking to start getting into shape. Ya dig?
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Major Blazer
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Stoned yin yoga is the shit
wascaptain
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i dont usually fail at goals i set, but on my marathon attempt, i petered out at mile 17ish. (i havent went double time since)
it wasnt like i was in pain or anything, my thoughts got me.
i threw in swimming in place of running.
and as for all plant based, i am about 95% , i now eat bison on sundays and eat egg whites daily.
there is something in animal products i was missing
my freaking shoulders are good enough again for push
ups and dips.
doc wanted to replace both
just after a week of egg whites and one serving of bison...relief !!!
so all that crap i shouted about animal free was a no-go
it wasnt like i was in pain or anything, my thoughts got me.
i threw in swimming in place of running.
and as for all plant based, i am about 95% , i now eat bison on sundays and eat egg whites daily.
there is something in animal products i was missing
my freaking shoulders are good enough again for push
ups and dips.
doc wanted to replace both
just after a week of egg whites and one serving of bison...relief !!!
so all that crap i shouted about animal free was a no-go
TheGrassIsGreenerInAus
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I can believe that, fitness also makes you more conscious of the health ramifications of smoking, I'm doing my best to swap to edibles =)