Any Seed companies that breed Hydroponic specific veggie varieties?

vostok

vostok

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Exactly how would you define a hydroponic seed ....? gotta have web roots, and glow in dim light ....lol
 
Dribbles

Dribbles

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Yeah it's doubtful.

but, if you want to ensure you've got the best quality seeds you can to start with, make *sure* you purchase only Heirloom seeds. Yates, Hortico and other big seed producers have no qualms about the genetic modding of plants to produce seeds that grow great, but have fuckalll else going for them.

Heirloom seeds are open-polinated, natural seeds that will improve and adapt to your growing environment with each successive generation you grow.
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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When I think of "hydroponically related", I think off plants like water cress, arrowroot, cattails, etc. etc. But I don't think that's what you are after.

As far as hydroponically grown, specific seeds, like a specific species meant for towers of lettuce, no, not for commercial purposes.
You might be able to find something in ARS-Grin, but you have to be doing some kind of research.


And on thinking about it for a little while, I am left with an incomplete conclusion, but if you were breeding for hydroponics, then you would be breeding for a medium and I don't think that is a strategy for increased viability. That may be going into it, too much, but just a theory.....
 
BenFranklin

BenFranklin

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I was thinking along the lines of veggies that would be bred specifically for indoor controlled hydroponic conditions....

or varieties that would be better to grow indoors vs those that would be grown outdoors...
 
Dribbles

Dribbles

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Buying hydroponic fruit and veges feom your local and ripping them apart for their seeds will probably be your best option. Mind you, that would be more effort than just ordering seeds online, but it has an irreplacable advantage over ordering online: you get to taste the end product before planting the seeds.

I bought some amazing Tomatoes a week ago or so, and have already sacrificied 3 of em to save the seeds. They're almost dry enough already to throw in a bag and store, though I'll leave them out a few weeks more anyway just to be positive they're dry-dry.

NEVER store seeds until they've completely dried-out, properly, for obvious reasons. Here I'll event ake a photo of the Tomato seeds. I got a lot more than I figured would be in a tomato actuallly...
 

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Dribbles

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I've planted 5 seeds just to test the germ rate, and assuming they're good, they'll be my new standard-sized Tomatoes for next season! Woo! Perfect balance of tangy, with just enough sweetness and juicy as! :D

What I love best though about saving seeds, is having the ability to pull out some seeds from a plant I grew two years ago, plant em, and a few weeks later there it is!

It's pretty brilliant, I think :D

A Seed Collector, should be the term, cos it's just like collecting any other thing, but seeds are alive, and produce shit to eat 8)

So at planting time, you end up with more and more choice of varieties and strains than the suckers who get a few packets each year at their local hardware store, and better adapted plants each gen.
 
BenFranklin

BenFranklin

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Ok Dribbles this is exactly what I am talking about........ I have a really nice aero cloner so I figure once I get a plant going........

I figure bush beans would be better to grow than pole beans.. For example...
 
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LIBERTYCHICKEN

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Dribbles said:
Buying hydroponic fruit and veges feom your local and ripping them apart for their seeds will probably be your best option. Mind you, that would be more effort than just ordering seeds online, but it has an irreplacable advantage over ordering online: you get to taste the end product before planting the seeds.

I bought some amazing Tomatoes a week ago or so, and have already sacrificied 3 of em to save the seeds. They're almost dry enough already to throw in a bag and store, though I'll leave them out a few weeks more anyway just to be positive they're dry-dry.

NEVER store seeds until they've completely dried-out, properly, for obvious reasons. Here I'll event ake a photo of the Tomato seeds. I got a lot more than I figured would be in a tomato actuallly...
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the trouble with saveing seed from vedgi's you have not grown yourself is you have no idea what it cross pollionated with , especially tomato familly since their already is a massive amount of variation with them Large samwitch types, cherrys, grapes, ground, huckleberrys , Pollen from some simmilar species like potows,tobacco can pollinate a tomato but will make un-fertile seeds, Also if your saveing tomato seeds fermentation is almost nessary
 
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LIBERTYCHICKEN

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Dribbles said:
Yeah it's doubtful.

but, if you want to ensure you've got the best quality seeds you can to start with, make *sure* you purchase only Heirloom seeds. Yates, Hortico and other big seed producers have no qualms about the genetic modding of plants to produce seeds that grow great, but have fuckalll else going for them.

Heirloom seeds are open-polinated, natural seeds that will improve and adapt to your growing environment with each successive generation you grow.
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Theirs nothing wrong with hybrids , all a heirloom seed is , is a varity that has ben around a while (about 50years depending in how you ask) , So monsanto's GMO corn will be a heirloom about 2033
Some heirloom seeds can even be finicky to grow since some of the hybrids were bread to grow beter in a varity of climates , and without special conditions

The thing heirloom seeds has going for it is the seed is more stable bolth first and successive generations , Heirloom seeds are almost always cheaper since their is no patent on them. Where I am at in the US the dollor stores have cheap seeds this time of year of mostly heirloom 10 for a dollor, or sometimes 20 , their always good seeds
 
BenFranklin

BenFranklin

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See you guys may not think this information is relevant or helpful, but, it's a treasure trove to me... I am seeing now that part of the fun of this adventure is going to be finding the seeds that suit my purposes best..

i thank you both for all the info... And to anyone else that has something to add further.

i have always wanted to learn more about different fruit and veggies varieties within all the seperate species of veggies, and this is how I am going to do it.

I've always had a general idea, but was never an expert at it..... Yet. =)
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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BenFranklin said:
I was thinking along the lines of veggies that would be bred specifically for indoor controlled hydroponic conditions....

or varieties that would be better to grow indoors vs those that would be grown outdoors...
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They don't even have cannabis seed bred for hydro.
 
BenFranklin

BenFranklin

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Well there are cannabis species that offers superior performance in an indoor environment, ie: shorter variety indicas and such.... Ruderalis ie:auto flowering strains, etc etc...

While Sativas wouldn't be so friendly or economically viable due to a variety of reasons.


there are also varieties that are much easier to clone, than others.. All sorts of trait variables that would make certain varieties superior to others....
 
Dribbles

Dribbles

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LIBERTYCHICKEN said:
the trouble with saveing seed from vedgi's you have not grown yourself is you have no idea what it cross pollionated with , especially tomato familly since their already is a massive amount of variation with them Large samwitch types, cherrys, grapes, ground, huckleberrys , Pollen from some simmilar species like potows,tobacco can pollinate a tomato but will make un-fertile seeds, Also if your saveing tomato seeds fermentation is almost nessary
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Well if you're aware of a better way for him to obtain seeds adapted specifically for hydro cultivation, *Sir*, please enlighten us because I am yet to stumble upon any seed vendors trading in hydro-specific seed stock. Made me get out the Bold! Look-out now! 8)
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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BenFranklin said:
Well there are cannabis species that offers superior performance in an indoor environment, ie: shorter variety indicas and such.... Ruderalis ie:auto flowering strains, etc etc...

While Sativas wouldn't be so friendly or economically viable due to a variety of reasons.


there are also varieties that are much easier to clone, than others.. All sorts of trait variables that would make certain varieties superior to others....
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Sativas do pretty good indoors other then taking forever but that Mango Haze is some good ass smoke just not worth the time but she does great indoors every other way. but a pure landrace sativa may be rough just like some landrace veggies but a nice hybrid with good vigor should do good.
 
BenFranklin

BenFranklin

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Those sativa varities were bred for characteristics that would allow them to grow decent indoors, there are many other varities that would not be so good for indoors........
 
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