Brick Top
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I copied it from from ccnews (or was it ccnewz) magazine about four years ago now and saved it so I don't have a link.
It is true though.
anyne ever smoked "overripe" buds
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It is true though.
if sunlight degrades THC so bad why does my outdoor get me so high?
people should just stop and really think about things. if you did produce a mad burst of trichs how could they ripen in 36 hours? another fine question, eh?
rollingotties
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kk so a few questions for this thread. and if it was answered already, im sorry but should i really have to read through all 17 pages? but anywho.
my plant is still sprouting new calyxes with white hairs, and the trichs are only half milky white. im going to wait until the about 70% amber to harvest as it is a indica dominant plant.
my question is without knowing the plant breed, (i only know its indica dominant), is there a way to tell when the peak time to harvest is?
also, understanding that i can keep the plant going untill its past its prime, this is still my first grow. what should i look for to indicate that it is past the "peak" harvest time and it is in that several week period between top resin production and when it is over ripe?
btw happy blated 420
my plant is still sprouting new calyxes with white hairs, and the trichs are only half milky white. im going to wait until the about 70% amber to harvest as it is a indica dominant plant.
my question is without knowing the plant breed, (i only know its indica dominant), is there a way to tell when the peak time to harvest is?
also, understanding that i can keep the plant going untill its past its prime, this is still my first grow. what should i look for to indicate that it is past the "peak" harvest time and it is in that several week period between top resin production and when it is over ripe?
btw happy blated 420
Brick Top
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There is no singular peak time to harvest. There is to early (clear trichomes), to late (brown trichomes) and anything in between is all peak time depending on each individuals personal taste/preference.my plant is still sprouting new calyxes with white hairs, and the trichs are only half milky white. im going to wait until the about 70% amber to harvest as it is a indica dominant plant.
my question is without knowing the plant breed, (i only know its indica dominant), is there a way to tell when the peak time to harvest is?
also, understanding that i can keep the plant going untill its past its prime, this is still my first grow. what should i look for to indicate that it is past the "peak" harvest time and it is in that several week period between top resin production and when it is over ripe?
btw happy blated 420
Thundercat
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I really thought the whole point the FDD was trying to get across with this thread was that the trichs don't really tell the whole story. You have to harvest the plant when it looks ready! I believe it was also brought out that a plant has to be left for weeks to long before it started to degrade. Just my 2 cents, but I think that was the point, theres no such thing as over ripe.....
Stoney Jake
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its true.. I found this study months ago and have seen people refer to it on here as well
The Stichting Institute of medical marijuana (SIMM), the first company to sell marijuana through the pharmicies of holland, has been investigating the medical possibilities of cannabis, together with TNO laboritories and the university of leiden.
One of their discoveries has been that to keep the ripe plants in the dark before harvesting could increase their potency.
SIMM's growers seperated a crop of mature plants, harvested half of them and kept the other half in absolute darknessfor 72 hours before cutting and drying.
Analysis of the resulting dried buds showed that some varieties had seen increases of THc of up to 30 %, while the CBD and CBN remained the same.
The Stichting Institute of medical marijuana (SIMM), the first company to sell marijuana through the pharmicies of holland, has been investigating the medical possibilities of cannabis, together with TNO laboritories and the university of leiden.
One of their discoveries has been that to keep the ripe plants in the dark before harvesting could increase their potency.
SIMM's growers seperated a crop of mature plants, harvested half of them and kept the other half in absolute darknessfor 72 hours before cutting and drying.
Analysis of the resulting dried buds showed that some varieties had seen increases of THc of up to 30 %, while the CBD and CBN remained the same.
Stoney Jake
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I dont recall who it was but someone on here told a story about how they left for 3 days when the trichs were milky. Came back and they were all dark brown.
Some strains degrade faster then other so you never know. Best to just keep an eye on them once they start to turn
Brick Top
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I dont know if it happened to anyone else but it did happen to me and I have written about it in several threads. Not all strains will change that fast but it happened to me that one time. I looked at the trichomes and they were very close almost all being milky. I ended up in the hospital the next morning and when I returned three days after looking at my trichomes they were all brown and I had compost.
That is why I so often say you cannot go by timeframes and you cannot look at your trichomes and say you will give them another week or 10 days or whatever.
You have to start to look at them at the earliest flowering maturity date, or preferably somewhat sooner, and then check them daily or else you may end up with compost.
Stoney Jake
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Yeah it was your post I read
Sorry to hear about that again lol. That post made me think of things a bit differently
ever had the top of your plant show dark brown trichs while the bottom of the same bud is still 50% clear?
I had this happen. Kinda sucked
Sorry to hear about that again lol. That post made me think of things a bit differently
ever had the top of your plant show dark brown trichs while the bottom of the same bud is still 50% clear?
I had this happen. Kinda sucked
Brick Top
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if sunlight degrades THC so bad why does my outdoor get me so high?
people should just stop and really think about things. if you did produce a mad burst of trichs how could they ripen in 36 hours? another fine question, eh?
"Ripen?" Who said anything about ripening? Also I clearly said 72 hours and not "36 hours."
The problem is that you attempt to think for yourself by guessing what may be a cause and effect instead of taking the word of experts like I do.
Sunlight does degrade THC. THC in resin works like sunscreen. Light rays strike the resinballs and they focus/direct and magnify the light rays onto the tips of the trichomes. A percentage of THC is degraded every day but then every night the same amount of THC plus slightly more is replenished. So you do get a slow incremental of THC levels as plants mature.
But by giving them 72 hours of darkness you give them a good bit of time to keep adding THV without any degradation from light rays occurring.
It is a fact that light degrades THC and it is a fact that a period of darkness increases levels of THC.
Sites like this are flooded with personal opinions of people who think or believe something and then attempt to validate it by attempting to guess some cause and effect.
Almost every time someone attempts to think up something on their own they are wrong.
Almost every time someone says this is what happens to me and this is what makes sense for why it happens they are wrong.
Something to keep in mind about outdoor grown marijuana is as the growing season shortens the days become shorter and shorter and the nights become longer and longer each and every day.
Due to the increased length of night/darkness larger amounts of THC are able to be produced and they replenish what THC was lost each day at an exponential rate.
The result is high levels of THC, of course within the genetic framework of each strain, but if each night was only as long as 12 hours the level of THC would not be as high as it is when the nights have progressively grown longer and longer as the growing season winds down.
That is not much of a factor in indoor growing since no grow light can come half close to producing the amount of light the sun produces to there is less THC degradation in indoor growing. It still occurs and growers should allow for it but it is not as much as when growing outside.
If you do not believe that light degrades THC why is it best to harvest before first light? It is because that is when THC levels will be at their peak.
If you do not believe that light rays degrade THC why does any expert and competent grower say dry and cure your harvest out of the light? It is because once harvested the plant can no longer replenish lost THC so any light will degrade THC and is lost forever.
Stoney Jake
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Haze:
I have heard of people doing it but was being a wussy about trying it. If it ever happens again Ill just cut the tops off as they are ready
Have you ever tried it?
edit: yeah it tripped me out when I first read about the 72 hours of darkness but after trying it I see a big difference in the resin on the plant. I think everyone should just try it for them self
I have heard of people doing it but was being a wussy about trying it. If it ever happens again Ill just cut the tops off as they are ready
Have you ever tried it?
edit: yeah it tripped me out when I first read about the 72 hours of darkness but after trying it I see a big difference in the resin on the plant. I think everyone should just try it for them self
Brick Top
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Trichomes can be very different colors on different portions of plants. That is why at times you need to harvest a portion of your plants one day and the rest a day or several days or a week later.
There is no reason why not to take the colas when their trichomes are the color that gives you the high or stone or combination of both that you prefer the most and then come back later and harvest more of the plant(s) or the rest of the plant(s) as the rest of the trichomes mature to what you most prefer.
Stoney Jake
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Hell I might do it then for different smoke. Ill try it on this next chop
Ill chop some when its just showing amber and chop the rest when its like 50% amber.
Get some daytime and nighttime smoke.
I guess I should of already tried this. I have experimented with just about everything else I have heard on here
Ill chop some when its just showing amber and chop the rest when its like 50% amber.
Get some daytime and nighttime smoke.
I guess I should of already tried this. I have experimented with just about everything else I have heard on here
not facts lol.......