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Bubbies

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It just looks obvious that medical marijuana won't be a big issue at the national level until the 2016 election. That is a long way off!
Unless we get a Republican President this year... then it could very well turn into an all out medical marijuana war.
 

Bubbies

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I missed the damn speech but I figure I'll catch the highlights on the news today. Something tells me Obama's town hall meetings are going to get a little ugly for him this next election cycle because he's broken more campaign promises than he's kept especially in regards to medical marijuana and respecting states' rights (i.e. giving a flying fuck about the 10th amendment).

I feel like I've been squarely kicked in the nuts after having voted for that a-hole in '08 since he's allowed the crusade against medical marijuana to continue on his watch which is completely contradictory to what he campaigned on and continues to propagandize through his puppet, AG Holder.
I feel very disappointed. In him, and in Congress. But sadly, I'm used to being disappointed. Disgusting...
 

gladstoned

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I missed the damn speech but I figure I'll catch the highlights on the news today. Something tells me Obama's town hall meetings are going to get a little ugly for him this next election cycle because he's broken more campaign promises than he's kept especially in regards to medical marijuana and respecting states' rights (i.e. giving a flying fuck about the 10th amendment).

I feel like I've been squarely kicked in the nuts after having voted for that a-hole in '08 since he's allowed the crusade against medical marijuana to continue on his watch which is completely contradictory to what he campaigned on and continues to propagandize through his puppet, AG Holder.
I personally think the republicans are obviously waiting til next election. It looks like Obama already won to me.
I distinctively remember Obama saying vote for me, I will end the war immediately and leave medical patients alone. Bullshit and bullshit.
 

Bubbies

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Enjoy every moment. I miss my mom something awful.
I absolutely do!! I am thankful that I GET to help her. Never for one minute have I thought I "HAD" to... it has always been a gift! I am very sorry about your Mom, Winter Woman... that is so awfully hard. My husband's Mom has been gone for 10 years this year, and I still see the same loss in his eyes that I did on that very day sometimes. He took care of his Mom for several years before she passed on as well, and I am glad he has that to comfort him and for him to look back on and find wonderful, funny, awesome memories!
 

Bubbies

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I personally think the republicans are obviously waiting til next election. It looks like Obama already won to me.
I distinctively remember Obama saying vote for me, I will end the war immediately and leave medical patients alone. Bullshit and bullshit.
I remember both statements as well, and yep, was nothing more than campaign rhetoric.

I think Obama has already won as well. The Repubs put absurd choices in the forefront, if you ask me... Obama needs to send the RNC a thank you card for that one. I think this election was the Republican's election to lose, and I think they already have.
 

gladstoned

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I absolutely do!! I am thankful that I GET to help her. Never for one minute have I thought I "HAD" to... it has always been a gift! I am very sorry about your Mom, Winter Woman... that is so awfully hard. My husband's Mom has been gone for 10 years this year, and I still see the same loss in his eyes that I did on that very day sometimes. He took care of his Mom for several years before she passed on as well, and I am glad he has that to comfort him and for him to look back on and find wonderful, funny, awesome memories!
We came to the UP 7-8 years ago to take care of my girlfriends mom until she passed and I swear she still cannot handle it. She still has not snapped out of it. Such a difficult thing.
 

Winter Woman

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I almost feel that MMJ is about to take one big step backward. I don't know why I feel that way, but I do. I'll still go to rallys and write my legislators.
 

Bubbies

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I almost feel that MMJ is about to take one big step backward. I don't know why I feel that way, but I do. I'll still go to rallys and write my legislators.
I also feel that way. And I go too, and also write letters. Lately though, I'd say the past 3-4 months, I only get form letters back and before I got personal responses. Maybe that is why I feel like 'something is a'brewing."
 

Winter Woman

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Well, we stay within the law. That doesn't feel to cozy anymore either. I can't say I was threatened (being turned into leo) by my legislator but he made it very clear how he thinks.

We are trying a recall on that so and so.
 

gladstoned

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If they chose to go backwards, I will be in trouble. I don't move backwards very well. lol. I will need enough time to harvest and pack.
 

Bubbies

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I think a large part of Michigan's problem is that a lot of the law is cloudy at best, and the anti-MMJ crowd has room to "intepret" to make things fit their agendas. Things need to be cleaned up, and more specific language written so there isn't room for interpretation, and the grey areas are MUCH less grey.The law was passed by the people, so the citizens have spoken. I think that our legislators, despite their personal views, need to take that fact into consideration and remember that they work for US.
 

Bubbies

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I also think that there is a huge gap between what 'we the people' want (as is evident by our vote FOR mmj) and what the politicians want. I honestly think that many of our career politicians are so used to doing their will that they have forgotten how to abide by the will of the people.
 

Winter Woman

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I think I'm going to join NORML. I'm not afraid to join and I have no excuse not to join.

There is support in more places than we know. It's too bad our legislators don't understand the support comes from very conservative places. Like... my preacher. His wife is terminal and now he understands that 'it' isn't as bad as he once thought. Now all the deacons are supporting it.

I still feel that if we aren't vigilant we will lose ground.
 

gladstoned

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The government is supposed to work for us, but they can make a grey area out of anything. Clinton even made a basic blowjob a grey area. lol. We need Cinton on our side, but he already has his weed. lol
 

gladstoned

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I think I'm going to join NORML. I'm not afraid to join and I have no excuse not to join.

There is support in more places than we know. It's too bad our legislators don't understand the support comes from very conservative places. Like... my preacher. His wife is terminal and now he understands that 'it' isn't as bad as he once thought. Now all the deacons are supporting it.

I still feel that if we aren't vigilant we will lose ground.
Amazing how what is right and wrong no longer mirrors what is legal and illegal. I plan on joining NORML too. I will join a detroit chapter though. The UP is too far out of touch for my liking. That is great to hear your church is behind medical marijuana. I respect a pastors view, never really cared what the governor or AG felt about anything.
 

Winter Woman

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Joining is joining, no matter what chapter. NORML cleans up on the side of highways near my home and has the signage to prove, love that part. I'll even help picking up trash on the side of the highway. '

'The next mile maintained by NORML' Love it.
 

Bubbies

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I also am joining NORML. We have a chapter right here in my city! (I just looked into it yesterday as a matter of fact!)

It just baffles me that people are still, in 2012, lumping all 'illicit drugs' into one giant category. It also baffles me that while it is the abuse of LEGAL, PRESCRIPTION drugs that is on the rise, and on the sharpest rise in the 'child' population, no one would dare declare war on Oxy Contin or Vicodin or Adderall.

I would personally like to see the Hospice community speak to/weigh in on the benefits of MMJ. Having worked with a hospice organization myself, before the MMJ law existed, it seems to me that a lot of the people in that 'industry' advocated marijuana use...
 

gladstoned

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Joining is joining, no matter what chapter. NORML cleans up on the side of highways near my home and has the signage to prove, love that part. I'll even help picking up trash on the side of the highway. '

'The next mile maintained by NORML' Love it.
It matters up here. Try going to the UPNORML website or contacting a subchapter in UP, I've tried for six months now. This is just another of the "twilight zone" aspects of crossing the Mackinaw Bridge. lol.
 
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